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denny
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Thu Jun-17-10 01:16 AM

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"My rant about North American perceptions of soccer."


          

Every four years I find myself in this same position....trying to justify the game in the face of ignorance.

I work in sports television in Canada. During an evening Sportscentre update, one of our talent referred to Australia as Austria. It wasn't a slip of the tongue.....he saw the AUS in the scoreboard and thought it was Austria. When his mistake was pointed out to him off-air he responded by saying "noone cares anyway".

I mixed another show that is a panel discussion concept featuring a bunch of prominent sports reporters from various main circulation newspapers. Their little segment about the World Cup was completely dismissive and ignorant. "Soccer is boring"...."There's not enough goals"...."The vevezulas are distracting".

So I feel the need to get a bunch of shit of my chest.

Firstly...I played competitive sports when I was a kid....soccer and hockey were my best sports. I can say from experience that the physical pain endured in soccer far outweighs that in hockey. Many in North America don't understand this.

In soccer, your shoe has a top layer of leather (no padding) with a bottom full of cleats. Getting stepped on or clipped on your feet (very common) is an extremely painful experience but the pain goes away very quickly. This is why players spend time on the grass after getting tackled. It's not because they're not tough.

Diving/simulation is a problem in soccer....granted. But this kind of gamesmanship is present in many North American sports as well....basketball and hockey are good examples. North American sports analysts call it 'veteran smarts' or 'IQ' when a player flops on a charge. But in soccer, it's used as evidence to invalidate the quality of the game.

And about the lack of goals....why is it that Americans can find pleasure in watching a 'pitcher's duel' in baseball but not find pleasure in watching a 1-0 score in soccer? Imagine if a foreigner, unfamiliar with baseball, were to say 'this game was boring because one team got no hits and the other got one hit'? A baseball fan would be quick to point out that a game such as this would probably be very entertaining for those who KNOW about baseball.

Which leads to me to another point. Why does everyone feel the need to throw in their two cents when they clearly don't understand the game in the first place? Personally, I don't like auto-racing and golf. But when the US Open or the Indy 500 take place...I don't go running my mouth off about how inept those sports are. I realize that the reason I don't appreciate those events is because I don't understand the nuances, strategies and histories of those traditions.

The true meaning of ignorance is 'placing judgement on something you don't understand'. This is the character of North American perspectives on soccer. And because these sports 'journalists' need to disguise their lack of familiarity with a sport they're paid to cover....they resort to commenting on the vevezulas, lack of goals and diving. Every four years....same shit.

Rant over.

  

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My rant about North American perceptions of soccer. [View all] , denny, Thu Jun-17-10 01:16 AM
 
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Look - Fuck You.
Jun 17th 2010
1
RE: Look - Fuck You.
Jun 17th 2010
3
lol. amazing episode
Jun 17th 2010
35
you think its that bad?
Jun 17th 2010
2
Yes.
Jun 17th 2010
4
      whoops, you just went into soccer elitist mode
Jun 17th 2010
5
      just went into? he was there from the post subject line on
Jun 17th 2010
70
      Sorry not everyone loves your sport as much as you.
Jun 17th 2010
6
      most of ur generalizations are dumb, but this one's just patently false
Jun 17th 2010
8
           My bad....
Jun 17th 2010
9
                Go compare the ratings for Spain-SUI to any MLS match
Jun 17th 2010
17
                     oh he aint coming back to that awful point, he knows he botched that one
Jun 17th 2010
96
                          hohoho.
Jun 17th 2010
105
Dude, we don't care about soccer. Deal with it.
Jun 17th 2010
7
INSECURE SOCCER FANS = *Automatic Asshole Grin*
Jun 17th 2010
10
hohoho.
Jun 17th 2010
13
the only real difference btw soccer and baseball is their history
Jun 17th 2010
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      Explain.
Jun 17th 2010
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      The run of play is very different in those sports
Jun 17th 2010
24
      Baseball's a lot more numbers-driven than soccer
Jun 17th 2010
30
      And better to watch
Jun 17th 2010
34
           whoa whoa
Jun 17th 2010
67
                But the World Cup does?
Jun 17th 2010
93
                     This is a completely subjective and dumb point.
Jun 17th 2010
104
      this is perhaps the stupidest shit ive read on OKS in years nm
Jun 17th 2010
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post over, archive
Jun 17th 2010
40
      man O_E bodied that thing so completely I damn near teared up
Jun 17th 2010
82
           Oh ya?
Jun 17th 2010
125
                ^^^Damn, Even This Cat's Snark Game Is Pussy
Jun 17th 2010
129
                     You have no wit.
Jun 17th 2010
134
                          ^^^Tender In Toronto
Jun 17th 2010
138
                               Just call me cupid....
Jun 17th 2010
142
                                    ^^^Overcompensating In Ontario
Jun 18th 2010
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                                         Oh, the alphabet game.
Jun 20th 2010
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                                              ^^^Can't Let Go In Canada
Jun 24th 2010
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sorry I cant get into a sport
Jun 17th 2010
11
halfback passes to the center, back to the wing, back to the center.
Jun 17th 2010
12
hohoho.
Jun 17th 2010
14
      You can't really see that on TV though.
Jun 17th 2010
37
     
Jun 17th 2010
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it's not the best of the best
Jun 17th 2010
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it's easy to tell why watching soccer sucks for the unfamiliar
Jun 17th 2010
15
good point.
Jun 17th 2010
25
RE: it's easy to tell why watching soccer sucks for the unfamiliar
Jun 17th 2010
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I want to come in here and back you up
Jun 17th 2010
19
I don't NEED Canada or US to like it.
Jun 17th 2010
20
My rant about European perceptions of American football.
Jun 17th 2010
21
this is really not a good look
Jun 17th 2010
22
lol, so the vevezula complaints are only coming from North America?
Jun 17th 2010
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no, only from faggots worldwide
Jun 17th 2010
From my experience, most soccer players are pussies
Jun 17th 2010
26
no, most American PARENTS are, though
Jun 17th 2010
31
      nah the parents give more of a fuck than the kids tbh
Jun 17th 2010
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      Chuck Klosterman had a good piece about Soccer in the suburbs
Jun 18th 2010
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What's obnoxious is how some Americans make hating it a hobby
Jun 17th 2010
27
This is a good point
Jun 17th 2010
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Soccer was invented by European ladies to keep them busy while
Jun 17th 2010
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what's also obnoxious is thinking that not being enthralled by soccer
Jun 17th 2010
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      LOL! How is your reply in any way related to the post
Jun 17th 2010
85
           it was piggybacking the 'understand' concept, what don't you understand?
Jun 17th 2010
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                That was a throwaway word, the whole post
Jun 17th 2010
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                     the thing you're not understanding is that his post was the catalyst
Jun 17th 2010
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                          UNDERSTOOOD
Jun 17th 2010
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                               Glad we've reacheda this level of UNDERSTANDing *tips cap*
Jun 17th 2010
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As a fairly recent American futbol convert
Jun 17th 2010
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bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
Jun 17th 2010
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Anyone that can't drown out a constant noise ... I consider dumb.
Jun 17th 2010
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      I'm just saying that for those on the fence, the excuses are there.
Jun 17th 2010
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           We're not picking up fans unless we're in knock out rounds
Jun 17th 2010
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i gave up on converting folks into soccer fans a long time ago
Jun 17th 2010
36
so your rant is actually about broadcasters being idiots?
Jun 17th 2010
39
I HATE the pitcher's duel comparison
Jun 17th 2010
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is it really though?
Jun 17th 2010
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RE: is it really though?
Jun 17th 2010
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      strike outs are really not that exciting to a baseball outsider
Jun 17th 2010
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      RE: strike outs are really not that exciting to a baseball outsider
Jun 17th 2010
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           they would have to explain more than just this
Jun 17th 2010
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      see its the same to me.
Jun 17th 2010
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heh...I don't get your distinction
Jun 17th 2010
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And fans of each sport know the difference
Jun 17th 2010
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      but there is a parallel to be made, is my point
Jun 17th 2010
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           See I don't think Hockey fans would like that
Jun 17th 2010
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                didn't bore me! They were winnin'!
Jun 17th 2010
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its a terrible comparison... a pitchers duel is very different
Jun 17th 2010
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Plus a 1-0 baseball game is fast
Jun 17th 2010
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      shortest baseball game is longer than a soccer match
Jun 24th 2010
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i'm about to make pissing soccer fans an agenda
Jun 17th 2010
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it seems the only fan you're going to piss off is the O.P.
Jun 17th 2010
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you know who sucks? WC only fans
Jun 17th 2010
49
huh...Spain are perennial chokers, sorry
Jun 17th 2010
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wow. i succeeded quicker than i thought!
Jun 17th 2010
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      heh...jersey is perpetually mad
Jun 17th 2010
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           i know. i'd be mad if i rooted for soccer's buffalo bills
Jun 17th 2010
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                actually, this rant was inspired by the "friend" who hosted
Jun 17th 2010
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                ^^^ DAT GOOD WIKIPEDIA RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS!
Jun 17th 2010
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                     i assumed he purposefully forgot that spain won the 08 euro
Jun 17th 2010
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                          NOPE! just putting your "accomplishment" in context
Jun 17th 2010
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                               uruguay's won two world cups.
Jun 17th 2010
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RE: i'm about to make pissing soccer fans an agenda
Jun 17th 2010
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you don't even know which response to reply to.
Jun 17th 2010
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      RE: you don't even know which response to reply to.
Jun 17th 2010
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      cute, i've got a legit groupie
Jun 17th 2010
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           RE: cute, i've got a legit groupie
Jun 17th 2010
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                see, here you are again trying to make this about me.
Jun 17th 2010
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                     RE: see, here you are again trying to make this about me.
Jun 17th 2010
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                          on the interwebs, people can playact and pretend
Jun 17th 2010
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      RE: you don't even know which response to reply to.
Jun 17th 2010
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RE: i'm about to make pissing off soccer fans an agenda
Jun 17th 2010
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Dumb, unneccasary post
Jun 17th 2010
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^ this
Jun 17th 2010
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      I'm just happy I had spaces between words
Jun 17th 2010
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           lol
Jun 17th 2010
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I laughed at Sportscentre
Jun 17th 2010
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Hint 1 was when he said "North Americans"
Jun 17th 2010
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      Not counting Mexicans?
Jun 17th 2010
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      I've never heard someone of Mexican heritage call himself North American
Jun 17th 2010
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      Good detective work.
Jun 17th 2010
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Meh, I don't give a fuck if any of you watch it or not
Jun 17th 2010
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My perception based on this post is that you're a bit of a whiny bitch
Jun 17th 2010
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lmao
Jun 17th 2010
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      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9jjEqRfqoM
Jun 17th 2010
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I have nothing against soccer, I just don't watch it
Jun 17th 2010
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*Dead* @ this part
Jun 17th 2010
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      Our PE teachers dedicated 2 weeks to soccer during middle school
Jun 17th 2010
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           Fam, I couldn't NOT use my hands.
Jun 17th 2010
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I wish I hadn't clicked this post
Jun 17th 2010
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what does grown men making crying-ass threads like this make u think?
Jun 17th 2010
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      that they need to get over it
Jun 17th 2010
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           This should have been your first and only reply.
Jun 17th 2010
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                but people that go out of their way to slam it, whats with that?
Jun 17th 2010
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                     this bitchy post was wearing a big 'Kick Me' sign on it though
Jun 24th 2010
190
Wow. This is like arriving late to an accident scene.
Jun 17th 2010
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And now that I've reconstructed it, the OP really pisses me off.
Jun 17th 2010
113
      it is a super canuckien post
Jun 17th 2010
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           And provincial as fuck.
Jun 17th 2010
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americans have an intrinsic need to feel superior.
Jun 17th 2010
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c'mon dula, let AI & Bron play soccer, fuck you think happens?
Jun 17th 2010
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RE: My rant about North American perceptions of soccer.
Jun 17th 2010
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lol, i'm in a bar full of mexicans right now watching el tri get busy.
Jun 17th 2010
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RE: lol, i'm in a bar full of mexicans right now watching el tri get bus...
Jun 17th 2010
123
hand clap. I like the new, mature allstah
Jun 17th 2010
130
can't believe I just wasted time reading this
Jun 17th 2010
118
LA, 5-beer lunch @ a bar watchin cholos celebrate Mexico beats France?
Jun 17th 2010
128
which bar u hit up?
Jun 17th 2010
133
      The Tavern, shit I forgot you were right near me
Jun 17th 2010
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Like all things in life
Jun 17th 2010
131
this post got beat with a brick... change username to reginald denny
Jun 17th 2010
136
The truck driver right?
Jun 17th 2010
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      You made an ignorant criticism of "North Americans"
Jun 17th 2010
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           I did no such thing.
Jun 17th 2010
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                Oh, so now it's just about journalists?
Jun 17th 2010
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                     RE: Oh, so now it's just about journalists?
Jun 17th 2010
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                          RE: Oh, so now it's just about journalists?
Jun 17th 2010
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                               I'm no writer....
Jun 17th 2010
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                                    RE: I'm no writer....
Jun 17th 2010
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                                         RE: I'm no writer....
Jun 17th 2010
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                                              Then your beef is with "The Reporters."
Jun 17th 2010
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                                                   No.
Jun 17th 2010
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                                                        so you'd love for soccer to reach the journalistic excellence
Jun 17th 2010
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Americans want drama
Jun 17th 2010
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I completely understand that
Jun 17th 2010
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I always shave before I visit my parents
Jun 17th 2010
144
Opaque, but effective.
Jun 17th 2010
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You spelled Sportscenter wrong.
Jun 17th 2010
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noOHdTQd6H8
Jun 17th 2010
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lol
Jun 17th 2010
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i made this whole long reply
Jun 18th 2010
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soccer, on paper, is a terrible, terrible spectator sport
Jun 18th 2010
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oh wow, what a mind blowing revelation
Jun 19th 2010
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i dont give no fuck abt birds / fish / soccer.
Jun 18th 2010
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i agree. the rest of the world loves soccer, and we should too.
Jun 19th 2010
166
Who are you even talking about?
Jun 19th 2010
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      yes, you are as stupid as i think you are
Jun 19th 2010
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           I don't get it
Jun 19th 2010
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                god you really are stupid.
Jun 19th 2010
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                     ??????
Jun 19th 2010
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The only people in Canada that care about soccer are
Jun 19th 2010
167
also lol @ the pain in soccer vs ice hockey
Jun 20th 2010
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Well, in Canada, that's an extremely large segment of the population
Jun 20th 2010
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      In Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver, indeed.
Jun 20th 2010
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and btw, soccer is doing just fine in the US
Jun 19th 2010
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Most young African Americans dislike baseball more than Soccer.
Jun 19th 2010
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something that pisses me off abt hypocritical US sports fans
Jun 19th 2010
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co-sign
Jun 24th 2010
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well, that's cuz those other sports got NEGROES in'em
Jun 24th 2010
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soccer players get a pass
Jun 24th 2010
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yeah? well i am fucking sick of soccer fans pushing this shit like ...
Jun 20th 2010
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No, it's not.
Jun 24th 2010
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lol yeah watch the caps play to have 10-shot 1-0 shootout wins and see
Jun 24th 2010
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      That's kinda moral relativism
Jun 24th 2010
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actually, I LOVE a pitcher's duel. Wanna know why?
Jun 24th 2010
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      do you think that represents the average baseball fan?
Jun 24th 2010
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           I'd say 5-3/6-4 is around the perfect score
Jun 24th 2010
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