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40. "A Chronology"
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Before I get into the more detailed points, I want to do a brief, and admittedly incomplete, history of how we got here, b/c the issues have been going on for longer than some people think.

After this, I'll get into the original intent of the post, to explain how our financial system worked before it fell apart. It's difficult to do this without some context.


A bull market in credit:

according to richard russell, a bull market has three phases: a skeptical phase, an acceptance phase, then a bubble phase where it becomes a non-sensical mania. these periods pan out over decades, which is why we are going to be dealing with the ramifications of this for some time.


1) fed chairman paul volcker raises interest rates to insane levels in the early 80's (rememeber, high interest rates cause bonds to fall in value). after stagflation ended, interest rates peaked & began to fall. the bull market begins.

2) volcker fights special interests in congress and the at fed that want to deregulate the banking sector; he wins some battles, but deregulation still takes place in various ways.

3) when volcker's term ended, ronald reagan did not reappoint the democrat fed chairman b/c he caused 2 horrible recessions by raising interest rates. instead, he chose a fellow republican to replace him: alan greenspan, who battled volcker on deregulation. months later, the 1987 crash occurs due to new financial products, and greenspan responds w/ a long career of deregulation, bailouts, and interest rate slashing. the same year, AIG's infamous financial products division is set up in london. also in 1987, now defunct investment bank Drexel Burnham Lambert issues the first CDO.

4) reagan begins huge budget deficits and borrows heavily in the treasury market to build up a huge defense program against the USSR, and to finance tax cuts, flooding the capital markets with highly liquid treasuries for decades to come. at the time, US bonds frequently had yields of 8% or more.

5) loose credit standards led to the S&L crisis, after which home prices recovered, & began a steady ascent upward. consumer credit began to take over the US

6) behind the scenes, glass-steagall was being steadily dismantled piece by piece by the bank lobby and the greenspan fed.

7) greenspan coins the term "irrational exuberance" in 1996 regarding the stock market

8) JPMorgan invents the credit default swap in 1997

9) 1998 - LTCM collapses & is bailed out due to leverage & derivatives; AIG begins selling CDOs and CDSs

10) greenspan begins flooding the markets with money & credit due to Y2K fears. the increased leverage, LTCM bailout & rate cuts contribute to the NASDAQ bubble

11) in 1999, clinton & congress officially repeal glass-steagall, though the meat of it was effectively eroded over time years before; goldman sachs, the last major private broker/dealer on wall street, issues their IPO at the top of the market: all of the major broker dealers have now dumped the risk from the owners to the public shareholders.

12) the CFMA is passed by congress in 2000, making over the counter derivatives exempt from regulation

13) the leverage shifts from .com stocks to credit instruments. the collateral for many of these instruments was real estate, dragging the burgeoning credit mania into the housing market.

14) in 2000, the CEO of goldman sachs, hank paulson, lobbies congress to reduce leverage limits on investment banks; the SEC complies 4 years later. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8VYVUMuB6U)

15) enron collapses in 2001 due to derivative bets hidden in highly leveraged accounting vehicles. these vehicles are later adopted by banks across the globe to hide their own bets in the credit markets

16) in 2004, greenspan cuts interest rates to 1%. the SEC removes the “net capital” rule, eliminating leverage caps for the 5 major broker dealers (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/09/28/business/20080928-SEC-multimedia/index.html) After this, leverage in the system goes ballistic, taking home prices with it. the growth of credit derivatives begins to go parabolic.



17) Feb 2007: "All five of the big brokers are being run by management teams that are to die for, that are seasoned, that have seen everything there is to throw at us...It's the best group of managers that I've ever seen in any industry... Goldman Sachs (GS), Bear Stearns (BSC), Lehman Brothers (LEH), Merrill Lynch (MER), and Morgan Stanley (MS)... All of them, right now, are being run by great men. For the first time in my memory - for the first time in anyone's memory - all five major brokerages have great management..." (Jim Cramer on Mad Money: http://www.madmoneyrecap.com/ARCHIVES/daily_recap_openingsegment_022707.htm) in the same month, the entire sub-prime mortgage brokerage industry went bust.


18) July, 2007: 2 bear stearns hedge funds collapse


19) August, 2007: "THEY KNOW NOTHING. THEY KNOW NOTHING." (c) cramer

  

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How the world works [View all] , jest, Mon Feb-16-09 08:07 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
MYTHS
Feb 16th 2009
1
The Stock Market
Feb 16th 2009
2
whats a good balance of stocks/bonds
Mar 08th 2009
105
RE: whats a good balance of stocks/bonds
Mar 09th 2009
106
There isn't a direct relationship between
Apr 11th 2009
113
better yet
Apr 13th 2009
114
I would like to invest in the Bond Market
Dec 27th 2011
130
      something like that
Dec 30th 2011
131
Arithmetic Math vs. Geometric Math [or (2+0)/2 != 1 ]
Feb 17th 2009
18
Portfolio Theory, Rational Investors, etc,
Feb 18th 2009
25
RE: Portfolio Theory, Rational Investors, etc,
Feb 18th 2009
37
Taxes & Real Estate
Feb 19th 2009
38
THE BOND MARKET
Feb 16th 2009
3
Equity capital vs. debt capital
Feb 16th 2009
4
Capital vs. Money
Feb 17th 2009
19
      RE: Capital vs. Money
Jun 05th 2009
123
Bond Investing
Feb 16th 2009
5
Credit Ratings
Feb 16th 2009
11
      Importance of Credit Ratings
Feb 16th 2009
12
      European stocks hit by Moody's latest bank warning - AP
Feb 17th 2009
13
      Key Detail on Credit Ratings:
Feb 25th 2009
85
           they aren't regulated either
Feb 26th 2009
86
                They're like Gangsters
Feb 26th 2009
88
                     LOL
Mar 02nd 2009
96
                     ratings agencies are exempted from lawsuits by rule of law
Apr 16th 2009
115
Duration
Feb 16th 2009
8
Commercial paper/money markets
Feb 16th 2009
9
Mortgages
Feb 16th 2009
10
The US Treasury market
Feb 17th 2009
20
      Agency Securities (Fannie & Freddie)
Feb 17th 2009
21
      Central banking and the treasury market
Feb 17th 2009
22
      Banks and the treasury market
Feb 17th 2009
23
Interest Rates
Feb 16th 2009
6
Taylor rule
Feb 16th 2009
7
can you explain in the simplest terms possible how interest rates work?
Mar 04th 2009
99
      grossly oversimplified:
Mar 04th 2009
100
           i'm too stupid to understand any of what you just said.
Mar 04th 2009
101
can you outline a day in the life of a bond?
Feb 17th 2009
14
cosign! like if i wanted to buy a bond and play out the process...
Feb 17th 2009
15
it's hard for people like us to do
Feb 17th 2009
17
You might also try a bond mutual fund or closed end fund
Feb 18th 2009
24
good question
Feb 17th 2009
16
don't know if this was covered, but basic fixed income
Mar 11th 2009
108
THE BANKING SYSTEM
Feb 18th 2009
26
Central banks
Feb 18th 2009
27
Commercial banks
Feb 18th 2009
28
Capital/reserve requirements
Feb 18th 2009
29
      M2 explains bank capital:
Apr 25th 2009
116
Investment banks
Feb 18th 2009
30
Hedge funds
Feb 18th 2009
31
      you should of gone much more into detail about hedge funds
Mar 01st 2009
94
           That's like a book in of itself though
Mar 02nd 2009
95
                Another thought
Mar 02nd 2009
97
relationships between all of them:
Feb 18th 2009
32
International finance
Feb 18th 2009
33
      Counterparties & interbank lending
Feb 18th 2009
34
           LIBOR & the TED Spread
Feb 18th 2009
35
           Modern bank runs, liquidity & interbank lending
Feb 18th 2009
36
           Repos Explained
Dec 24th 2011
129
THE CREDIT BUBBLE
Feb 19th 2009
39
Timeline - Global Credit Crunch - Swipe from the BBC
Feb 24th 2009
74
      thanks, that was great
Feb 24th 2009
77
Modern & Structured Finance - How the world really works
Feb 21st 2009
45
The shadow banking system
Feb 21st 2009
46
The rise of hedge funds
Feb 21st 2009
47
      Leverage ratios
Feb 21st 2009
49
Derivatives (financial weapons of mass destruction)
Feb 21st 2009
48
Quantitative finance
Feb 21st 2009
50
The Black Swan
Feb 21st 2009
51
Dynamic hedging
Feb 21st 2009
52
k_orr just made a fantastic post on this
Feb 24th 2009
78
Fraudulent accounting, SIVs, & Enron
Feb 21st 2009
53
Enron Envy
Feb 21st 2009
54
Mark to model accounting
Feb 21st 2009
55
Securitization
Feb 21st 2009
56
      The Repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act
Feb 21st 2009
57
      CDOs
Feb 21st 2009
59
           ABCP (Asset Backed Commercial Paper)
Feb 21st 2009
60
           embedded leverage
Feb 21st 2009
61
                Credit Default Swaps
Feb 21st 2009
62
THE GREAT DELEVERAGING (where we are now)
Feb 21st 2009
63
      mortgage finance & mortgage equity withdrawals
Feb 21st 2009
64
      The end of leverage
Feb 21st 2009
65
      Bear Stearns
Feb 21st 2009
66
      LEHMAN & AIG
Feb 21st 2009
67
           TARP
Feb 21st 2009
68
                The Bottom Line Is........
Feb 21st 2009
69
                THE SOVEREIGN DEBT CRISIS
Aug 28th 2011
127
      9% Nationally, 20% on the West Coast.......
Feb 24th 2009
83
      Adding $0.99 - AIG & Bank Capitalization
Feb 24th 2009
82
           that's another reason the ratings agencies should be beaten
Feb 25th 2009
84
                It's fucking retarded
Feb 26th 2009
90
what's a toggle bond?
Feb 20th 2009
41
it's sort of like an option ARM mortgage
Feb 20th 2009
43
can you talk about M1-M3?
Feb 20th 2009
42
RE: can you talk about M1-M3?
Feb 20th 2009
44
so what does this all mean?
Feb 21st 2009
58
what dont you understand?
Feb 23rd 2009
71
Are regular business as dependent on credit as the finance industry?
Feb 22nd 2009
70
RE: Are regular business as dependent on credit as the finance industry?
Feb 23rd 2009
72
Import/Export is all about Credit.
Feb 24th 2009
75
Yes
Feb 24th 2009
81
How did you amass this knowledge?
Feb 24th 2009
73
b/c financial advisers are con men
Feb 24th 2009
79
what did you read in the beginning?
Mar 05th 2009
104
      i learned everything from google & the public library
Mar 09th 2009
107
It's more opinion than knowledge. n/m
Apr 26th 2009
117
      Care to add on and/or correct the opinion so that it's more factual?
Apr 27th 2009
118
           RE: Care to add on and/or correct the opinion so that it's more factual?
Apr 27th 2009
119
           and what is knowledge if not opinion? nm
Apr 28th 2009
120
                I'm not criticizing...just stating an observation...
May 03rd 2009
121
                     that's fair; i agree
May 05th 2009
122
What are your thoughts on the future markets?
Feb 24th 2009
76
there are shenanigans going on with the exchanges too
Feb 24th 2009
80
related youtubage: Crisis of Credit Visualized
Feb 26th 2009
87
It seemed ok, but i agree, it just focuses on housing.
Feb 26th 2009
91
Legalized Criminality @ Hedge Funds
Feb 26th 2009
89
criminality isn't important,
Feb 27th 2009
92
      My Bad
Mar 03rd 2009
98
i love this post so much i'd take it out to red lobster
Feb 27th 2009
93
Did someone ask about Iceland? (Vanity Fair Swipe)
Mar 05th 2009
102
fascinating
Mar 05th 2009
103
Placemarker
Mar 12th 2009
109
is there only one way to securitize? if so, what is it?
Mar 24th 2009
110
securtiziation refers to a way to market a cashflow to investors
Apr 04th 2009
111
      you have got to be kidding me
Apr 04th 2009
112
Great post.
Jul 01st 2009
124
RE: How the world works
Jul 04th 2009
125
thx
Jul 08th 2009
126
i forgot how awesome this thread was/is..
Aug 28th 2011
128
sometimes i forget stuff & re-read it as a reminder
Dec 30th 2011
132
BUMP
May 09th 2013
133

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