>I'm out on Ingram as a meaningful starter, at least any time
>soon.

Three years in and w/o Lebron around right now and he still ain't showed any signs, to me, of becoming a legit #1 or #2 option to carry a team.

As mentioned above, Magic overvalued the young players and didn't make trades that could have really benefited the organization for now and the future.

Not saying that dude's a bum at all but he ain't that dog we hoped he would have become by now.