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2667621, World Cup 2018 (Semis) Posted by benny, Mon Jul-09-18 10:56 AM
France-Belgium Jul 10 2pmET Croatia-England Jul 11 2pmET
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2667626, whoever wins tomorrow will win it all Posted by KiloMcG, Mon Jul-09-18 11:32 AM
i don't think the other side is strong enough to beat either France or Belgium. my rooting order right now is Belgium, France, England then Croatia.
i don't really care, though, just give me great matches.
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2667627, no clue what'll happen w/ the 1st semi, complete toss-up IMO. Posted by dillinjah, Mon Jul-09-18 11:50 AM
with the 2nd, if Croatia were healthy and rested, they'd be the definite favorite. But they're obviously not so...
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2667631, People need to explain this "Croatia is the favorite" thing Posted by bshelly, Mon Jul-09-18 11:57 AM
yeah, they've got 3-4 guys on big clubs. England's got a higher ELO rating and is in better form this tournament. All Croatia's done is smoke a trash Argentina team. if both teams were on equal rest i'd say it's a tossup, but the exhaustion factor makes me lean england pretty hard.
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2667635, No one was a bigger Hrvatska fan coming in than me Posted by khn, Mon Jul-09-18 12:09 PM
But I agree - they are a squad that has gotten here on the wings of weak competition, a hot goalie, a top 5 player in peak form and Mandzukic running really hard. I still think they're more talented but some combo of Rakitic, Krameric, Kovacic and/or Brozovic need to show the fuck up already, otherwise England is definitely sending them home Wednesday.
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2667639, it's a cyse. england's the better side. Posted by dula dibiasi, Mon Jul-09-18 12:14 PM
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2668079, interesting. lol. Posted by nighttripper, Wed Jul-11-18 05:28 PM
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2667640, They're quite fashionable on this board. Posted by Buck, Mon Jul-09-18 12:15 PM
Trendy. All the rage, in fact.
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2667649, lolz Posted by dula dibiasi, Mon Jul-09-18 12:45 PM
the other night @ a housewarming, i was telling this girl how belgium / croatia was the hipster finals pick.
she made fun of me for still using the word "hipster" in 2018 but the point still stands.
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2667652, I haven't gotten the sense people see this Croatia as a clear fave Posted by benny, Mon Jul-09-18 12:55 PM
more like, it was one of the dark horses before the competition, and on paper it's got a lot of favorable factors, but I can't say I haven't seen a lot of people say they were anywhere near favored over England, with most people pointing to the 2 consecutive ET
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2667653, superior midfield. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Jul-09-18 01:04 PM
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2667660, ^^yup Posted by Hitokiri, Mon Jul-09-18 01:45 PM
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2667659, Croatia can def exploit England in midfield Posted by dillinjah, Mon Jul-09-18 01:25 PM
Rakitic needs to step it up for Croatia to win...dude is capable of it as we all know.
I'm honestly surprised England has been able to hide their weakness in the middle of the pitch (respect to Southgate for that).
If Croatia can't do it, Belgium or France will
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2667661, my man Hendo! Posted by smutsboy, Mon Jul-09-18 01:45 PM
He puts in work.
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2667664, They have a few great midfielders, but they are overachieving too Posted by B9, Mon Jul-09-18 02:04 PM
Modric is a "top 10 player doing it" talent, Rakitic and Perisic are great when they're on their games and Kovacic is the hype/hope that just hasn't materialized yet. After that? Mandzucik couldn't beat a training cone in the open field and their best defender is Liverpool's worst. Things get even thinner from there. It's a myth that "if Croatia were fresh" they would be better than England; England may only have one or two great players compared to Croatia's 3.5, but they have extensive depth and cohesion.
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2667704, England bookies' favorite btw (correctly, after back2back Croatia PKs) Posted by theeraser, Mon Jul-09-18 09:59 PM
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2667709, Because english fans are annoying as fuck. Fuck the Queen, etc. Posted by Castro, Tue Jul-10-18 02:30 AM
And I am here for that. I know that England is a bit browner/blacker than before but that song, YO. If England wins, we gotta hear that song forever. That is like the Cheers theme and Boston.
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2667717, man...fuck that song. Well said. Posted by dillinjah, Tue Jul-10-18 08:31 AM
>And I am here for that. I know that England is a bit >browner/blacker than before but that song, YO. If England >wins, we gotta hear that song forever.
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2667719, True, Croatian Twitter isn't currently annoying right now Posted by Marauder21, Tue Jul-10-18 08:47 AM
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2667720, I love that song. Don't @ me. Posted by bshelly, Tue Jul-10-18 09:01 AM
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2667729, Rooting for Croatia but they might have run out of gas Posted by j., Tue Jul-10-18 10:14 AM
back to back penalty shootouts? not questioning the mental toughness of Balkan cats but they may be physically on fumes at this point
And fuck that song
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2667736, Which song? Posted by B9, Tue Jul-10-18 10:42 AM
Because "It's Coming Home" is 10000x worse than God Save the Queen.
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2667756, true, tho 'God save the Queen' is worse due to history. Posted by dillinjah, Tue Jul-10-18 11:25 AM
>Because "It's Coming Home" is 10000x worse than God Save the >Queen.
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2667797, Clearly, its coming home is 'that song'. UGH. Posted by Castro, Tue Jul-10-18 01:05 PM
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2667718, Its coming home Posted by Amritsar, Tue Jul-10-18 08:45 AM
according to my day drunk english co-workers ...whatever that's supposed to mean
I guess England invented soccer?
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2667725, can this morning go any faster pls? Posted by benny, Tue Jul-10-18 09:42 AM
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2667774, I don't understand this Belgium lineup. Wow Posted by B9, Tue Jul-10-18 12:17 PM
The changes against Brazil were mostly masterful, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, but what in the hell is this? Back 4 with Chadli as a right back and a roadblock of 3 6s? 3-4-3 with Chadli and Dembele as the wingbacks? I want to understand.
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2667776, super ballsy, could pay off handsomely or crash n burn Posted by benny, Tue Jul-10-18 12:18 PM
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2667777, If a back 4, why Chadli over Jordan Lukaku? Posted by B9, Tue Jul-10-18 12:21 PM
mini-Lukaku is the only Belgium player that has the pace to stay somewhat with Mbappe and is the only natural leftback on the team. What a crazy gamble.
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2667786, I guess he wants to push up his midfield, force Mbappe to defend? Posted by benny, Tue Jul-10-18 12:36 PM
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2667789, this assumes Mbappe is allowed to move sides periodically Posted by benny, Tue Jul-10-18 12:40 PM
honestly I have no idea what to expect from this game, way too many considerations and my brain is broken from the nervousness
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2667800, The French back line is, so far, unconvincing. Posted by Buck, Tue Jul-10-18 01:22 PM
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2667891, FOH. Varane buried Lukaku and will be this year's Ballon d'Or. Posted by nighttripper, Tue Jul-10-18 06:58 PM
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2667897, If you check the time stamp, you'll see I posted in the 22nd minute. Posted by Buck, Tue Jul-10-18 07:10 PM
I also used the phrase "so far." Now, at the time I posted, Belgium had repeatedly created chances around goal with the help of some sketchy French defending, including clumsy headers and Umtiti's absolute whiff on a low cross.
However, Belgium did not manage to score, the French defense settled down, and the game turned.
Therefore my post stands.
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2667801, Lloris with a massive save Posted by smutsboy, Tue Jul-10-18 01:23 PM
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2667805, hazard playing like he wants RM to buy him Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Jul-10-18 01:33 PM
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2667807, Ima need Griezmann to involve his teammates in the attack. Posted by Buck, Tue Jul-10-18 01:40 PM
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2667810, Kobe system Posted by bshelly, Tue Jul-10-18 01:48 PM
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2667809, I hope the 2nd half opens up Posted by smutsboy, Tue Jul-10-18 01:46 PM
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2667811, eh. i'm thoroughly entertained. Posted by bshelly, Tue Jul-10-18 01:49 PM
this is tense and tight. i love it.
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2667815, entertaining if it leads to something eventually Posted by smutsboy, Tue Jul-10-18 01:53 PM
if it's just 90 or 120 minutes of tenseness.... I dunno.
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2667812, Hazard is killing us Posted by benny, Tue Jul-10-18 01:50 PM
Pavard waiting for him to be at full blast to defend is not helping either
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2667813, man on a mission Posted by bshelly, Tue Jul-10-18 01:52 PM
that mission? get out of London and to Madrid.
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2667817, But largely in isolation. Him not going down under the fouls is saving you Posted by B9, Tue Jul-10-18 01:55 PM
Hes had a few chances to take an easy foul in the left channel either on Pavard or Pogba and just stayed up to prove whatever point it is he's going for. I'm sure Martinez will tell him to go ahead take the kick when he can.
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2667814, Tactical first half, but I want Mertens for Dembele & Feker for Blaise Posted by B9, Tue Jul-10-18 01:53 PM
Lets crack this open.
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2667820, Umtitti. Game on Posted by dillinjah, Tue Jul-10-18 02:10 PM
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2667821, wrong thread. nice goal Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Jul-10-18 02:11 PM
.
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2667823, mbappe is wildin Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Jul-10-18 02:15 PM
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2667825, Too nasty Posted by Hitokiri, Tue Jul-10-18 02:22 PM
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2667914, he leaves me speechless at least once a match Posted by Castro, Tue Jul-10-18 10:52 PM
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2667824, I think it's better for Belgium when KdB is the focal point Posted by Hitokiri, Tue Jul-10-18 02:22 PM
and not Hazard. Everyone is looking for Eden to this point. And while he's obviously dangerous, KdB is a bigger danger imo.
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2667827, Pogba/Kante tho Posted by Hitokiri, Tue Jul-10-18 02:30 PM
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2667828, This isnt' quite the match I expected. Posted by Buck, Tue Jul-10-18 02:31 PM
Thought there'd be goals, for one.
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2667830, Man Hazard is balling his ass off Posted by bshelly, Tue Jul-10-18 02:40 PM
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2667838, I am very disappointed with Belgium. Posted by Buck, Tue Jul-10-18 02:54 PM
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2667841, Me too Posted by khn, Tue Jul-10-18 03:02 PM
They are nowhere near, or at least shouldn't be, as one-dimensional as they played.
All the props to France's defending though. They froze Lukaku out of the game and generally did a good job with Hazard.
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2667844, yeah Lukaku was damn near invisible the whole match. Posted by KiloMcG, Tue Jul-10-18 03:10 PM
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2667840, still salty at that Giroud for NZonzi sub lol Posted by benny, Tue Jul-10-18 03:01 PM
but DD gonna DD. Martinez was kinda feelin himself with that starting XI, but aside from Hazard who was monstrous, I though we did well past the first 30mins
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2667845, Giroud had a knock on his calf I believe Posted by LA2Philly, Tue Jul-10-18 03:14 PM
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2667842, I want to be disappointed in Belgium Posted by smutsboy, Tue Jul-10-18 03:07 PM
but like folks are saying, straight credit to Pogba and Kante Tha God. They locked the entire stadium down.
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2667843, you ain't lyin Posted by benny, Tue Jul-10-18 03:10 PM
some good undeground work from Griezmann too
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2667847, Deserved result for Les Bleus Posted by LA2Philly, Tue Jul-10-18 03:17 PM
Belgium had some great chances early but as we've seen in the knock-out stages, they haven't converted high % chances very well. Otherwise, they were very inconsistent and relied heavily on individual magic from Hazard and KDB to create half chances.
France were the more consistent team...bolstered by a MotM performance in Lloris and Pogba (incredible discipline and effort tonight). If not for some great last ditch defending by Belgium, this game is out of sight.
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2667853, Lloris MOTM Posted by benny, Tue Jul-10-18 03:24 PM
really a lot of good to pick out from les bleus who frustrated the Belgians immensely while still being on the verge of a breakdown countless times.
Varane is having some WC. Umtiti made me nervous but that header, wowza
Kante/Pogba, what more can be said. Matuidi played like a lion. As usual his technical limitations can be tedious, but he more than makes up for it in his forward movement
Giroud went back to his mineworker gameplan and was our best defender at times. Idgaf about our centre forward still lacking a goal, worked well enough in 98
Mbappe can be annoying but he is key to making things happen. And he is getting good at provoking the opponent, even with that Argentinian-type yellow card in injury time
OOOh boy this feels good. Part of me now wants to see England in the final to make it "more" classic, but I certainly won't be sad if our Croatian brethren pull it off tomorrow.
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2667896, possibly of the world cup Posted by nighttripper, Tue Jul-10-18 07:08 PM
I am not gonna pretend like I wasn't hating during the qualifiers and the preparation (it's mostly cause I was rooting for TTBOI)
shame on me to have doubted the god, he's having an incredible tournament.
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2667861, So Thibault Courtois is taking it well Posted by benny, Tue Jul-10-18 03:56 PM
"I wouldn't say that the other team was better than us. They defended in their own half the entire time, we shouldn't have been surprised, they've done that all tournament. It's a shame." (BeIN)
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2667867, he’s been cunty since the pickford comments Posted by Drizzit, Tue Jul-10-18 04:12 PM
probably before then, but has a bigger platform now.
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2667887, This is the same dude who said... Posted by LA2Philly, Tue Jul-10-18 06:07 PM
that he didn't believe Karius had a concussion (26/30 tests came back positive) because the symptoms weren't exactly the same as his own and that medical staffs will take out if you do have one (LOL)
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2667888, sounds like Hazard put too much salt on his fries too Posted by benny, Tue Jul-10-18 06:08 PM
"I prefer to lose with this Belgium than win with that France"
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2667893, FUCK THAT TALL ASS SALTY ASS GOOFBALL DICKHEAD Posted by nighttripper, Tue Jul-10-18 07:01 PM
UMTITI LEFT YOU IN TATTERS MY GUY
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2667864, That 76th (?) minute noncall for the Giroud foul on Hazard Posted by B9, Tue Jul-10-18 04:06 PM
That was crazy to not call that, but Belgium's only idea of slinging balls into the box was just poor.
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2667866, Yeah, that was a terrible non-call Posted by Hitokiri, Tue Jul-10-18 04:09 PM
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2667952, terrible. i don't know wtf he was watching. it happened right in front of him. Posted by KiloMcG, Wed Jul-11-18 10:06 AM
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2668212, which is why he saw Giroud got the ball first, making it a legal tackle Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jul-12-18 06:04 PM
not sure what you guys were watching
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2667894, THIRD FINAL IN MY LIFETIME Posted by nighttripper, Tue Jul-10-18 07:02 PM
this is seriously one of the best feelings in the entire world
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2667895, https://www.tuxboard.com/photos/2013/11/matuidi-sakho.gif Posted by nighttripper, Tue Jul-10-18 07:04 PM
https://www.tuxboard.com/photos/2013/11/matuidi-sakho.gif
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2667898, I'm so salty Dembele saved what looked to be a sure shot goal Posted by nighttripper, Tue Jul-10-18 07:10 PM
on that MMMBOP to Giroud backheel. It would have been so epic.
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2667950, i rewatched last night, if that backheel would had just a TOUCH more pace Posted by KiloMcG, Wed Jul-11-18 09:59 AM
that woulda been a sure goal. it was fucking beautiful, nonetheless.
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2667953, would have been epic for sure Posted by smutsboy, Wed Jul-11-18 10:11 AM
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2667949, So Subasic is going to play with a hammy? Posted by B9, Wed Jul-11-18 09:49 AM
Okay, player.
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2667987, These FSN douches got me SO EAGER for England to lose Posted by khn, Wed Jul-11-18 01:01 PM
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2667989, TRIPPIER GOLAZO Posted by PROMO, Wed Jul-11-18 01:06 PM
nasty.
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2667991, It's co.... Posted by Buck, Wed Jul-11-18 01:07 PM
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2667996, English back line kinda making me nervous. Posted by Buck, Wed Jul-11-18 01:34 PM
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2667998, Hendo will protect them. Posted by smutsboy, Wed Jul-11-18 01:41 PM
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2668003, Damn right. Posted by Buck, Wed Jul-11-18 01:59 PM
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2668015, Prescient Posted by Marauder21, Wed Jul-11-18 02:26 PM
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2668001, Letting a goalkeeper who can't jump start is so dumb Posted by B9, Wed Jul-11-18 01:55 PM
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2668013, Damn croatia is trash. England has had suck a Posted by calminvasion, Wed Jul-11-18 02:20 PM
Cake walk
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2668016, ZLATAN-STYLE Posted by benny, Wed Jul-11-18 02:26 PM
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2668017, My god Croatia is such shit! Posted by calminvasion, Wed Jul-11-18 02:27 PM
One more time
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2668018, what a finish Posted by smutsboy, Wed Jul-11-18 02:28 PM
how on earth did he get that squarely on goal with perfect placement?
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2668020, oh Perišić almost with a 2nd Posted by smutsboy, Wed Jul-11-18 02:29 PM
wow
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2668024, that was a Crna from the Euros like cross Posted by upUPNorth, Wed Jul-11-18 02:34 PM
and that post moment right after. watching this at work is awkward, I have to talk to people I'm serving with this on to my right lol
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2668021, It's amazing the dirty shit this ref lets Croatia get away with. Posted by Buck, Wed Jul-11-18 02:31 PM
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2668025, Sarcasm? You know walker and Alli are English Posted by calminvasion, Wed Jul-11-18 02:37 PM
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2668023, England's going to give their whole country a heart attack Posted by Marauder21, Wed Jul-11-18 02:34 PM
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2668026, Your Queen Is A Reptile Posted by agentzero, Wed Jul-11-18 02:37 PM
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2668027, Henderson having an absolute howler Posted by calminvasion, Wed Jul-11-18 02:43 PM
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2668082, he was due, to be fair. Was playing way over his head till today Posted by dillinjah, Wed Jul-11-18 06:15 PM
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2668093, Lies Posted by smutsboy, Wed Jul-11-18 10:11 PM
Hendo is a reliable midfield lynchpin.
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2668028, time to breathe in some ammonia Posted by benny, Wed Jul-11-18 02:51 PM
no idea how Croatia are still standing, but they looked a lot better than England at the end
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2668030, They should be absolutely gassed by now Posted by Marauder21, Wed Jul-11-18 02:53 PM
Are they on that Maradona?
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2668037, setting myself up for a fail, but Kane's been ghost for a while Posted by benny, Wed Jul-11-18 03:16 PM
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2668044, he's been bad. no excuses. Posted by bshelly, Wed Jul-11-18 03:28 PM
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2668038, It may not be coming home. Posted by Buck, Wed Jul-11-18 03:22 PM
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2668039, dat british defending Posted by benny, Wed Jul-11-18 03:24 PM
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2668045, ITS NOT COMING HOME Posted by Castro, Wed Jul-11-18 03:38 PM
Relieved more than joyful. What a dogfight.
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2668041, Mentality: Overload. Team Instructions: Take More Risks Posted by Buck, Wed Jul-11-18 03:24 PM
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2668068, ^underrated reply Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Jul-11-18 04:21 PM
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2668043, Midfields: they matter Posted by bshelly, Wed Jul-11-18 03:27 PM
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2668053, ^^^ Posted by calminvasion, Wed Jul-11-18 03:43 PM
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2668046, NO IT IS NOT COMING HOME M8 Posted by benny, Wed Jul-11-18 03:38 PM
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2668047, Hipster pick, huh? Posted by khn, Wed Jul-11-18 03:39 PM
Well, get me my fucking thrift store reading glasses then, bitches.
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2668048, OK, there's no way Croatia can hang with France for 90', right? Posted by Marauder21, Wed Jul-11-18 03:39 PM
I've admittedly thought they were going to fall apart at alternating points during the last two matches, but it's got to run out eventually, right?
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2668059, The thing is Posted by smutsboy, Wed Jul-11-18 03:52 PM
France is 2x as good as Russia or England. Especially in attack.
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2668061, Mbappe can run past anyone on that backline.Backwards. Posted by B9, Wed Jul-11-18 03:56 PM
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2668062, Frances backline is better than England's...so I say naw. 2-1 France. Posted by Castro, Wed Jul-11-18 03:58 PM
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2668049, England just wasn't sharp enough. Posted by PROMO, Wed Jul-11-18 03:39 PM
I mean, Croatia wasn't much sharper they just made a couple key moments count.
England couldn't do that today.
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2668050, It's not fucking coming home praise God. Bless modric and the 'Ic brigade Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Jul-11-18 03:41 PM
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2668051, It's not fucking coming home praise God. Bless modric and the 'Ic brigade Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Jul-11-18 03:41 PM
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2668052, Hated outcomes of quarters. Semis had best outcome Posted by calminvasion, Wed Jul-11-18 03:41 PM
Can watch Sunday pretty neutral and just hope for a good game
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2668055, what a game from Modric, wow Posted by benny, Wed Jul-11-18 03:44 PM
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2668060, F Modric, it was Perisic who went insane Posted by B9, Wed Jul-11-18 03:56 PM
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2668063, eh, they can both have the game ball Posted by benny, Wed Jul-11-18 03:58 PM
that ET was astounding. One team playing to win, the other...
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2668056, Unfortunately for him, Stones is the escape goat Posted by LA2Philly, Wed Jul-11-18 03:44 PM
You can’t turn off in that situation. He either thought Pickford was closer or didn’t realize Manzudkic was off his shoulder. Either way, really soft goal to give up and in the worst moment
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2668057, BOTH TEAMS PLAYED HARD (c) Sheed Posted by Castro, Wed Jul-11-18 03:49 PM
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2668058, my favorite silly stat for the WC Posted by benny, Wed Jul-11-18 03:51 PM
since 1982 every final has featured at least a player from Bayern and Inter. For this year Tolisso/Perisic+Brozovic. Kind of amazing it happened when you look at the odds
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2668065, so strange, esp considering how far inter have fallen recently Posted by dillinjah, Wed Jul-11-18 04:03 PM
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2668069, It is 46 players. But yeah Bayern is not so surprising Posted by calminvasion, Wed Jul-11-18 04:22 PM
It's true for each, not "or" right?
Also not counting this year I think only 2 final hadn't involved either Germany or Italy
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2668072, yeah it's 1 min each Posted by benny, Wed Jul-11-18 04:27 PM
somehow this year Bayern looked the most unlikely outcome once Germany crapped the bed. I remember hearing about the stat before the 1/4 finals and thinking it was possible but definitely not likely to happen
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2668071, The semis were fun as a neutral observer nm Posted by Wonderl33t, Wed Jul-11-18 04:26 PM
______________________________ http://i.imgur.com/v2ye7l2.jpg
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2668076, I've been waiting the whole fucking goddamn WC to gloat Posted by Rjcc, Wed Jul-11-18 05:05 PM
about england getting knocked out, but now I can't even do it because I really respect the way they played
DAMN IT ALL TO HELL
www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
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2668121, haha Posted by KiloMcG, Thu Jul-12-18 08:20 AM
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2668086, Photos from the photog that Croatia tackled are pretty epic. Posted by smutsboy, Wed Jul-11-18 08:15 PM
http://remezcla.com/sports/salvadoran-photographer-yuri-cortez-croatia/
https://twitter.com/urualejandro/status/1017160278641913856?s=21
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2668227, yeah, that was badass. Posted by Castro, Thu Jul-12-18 09:35 PM
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2668117, NOPE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsXMXkkoCco Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jul-12-18 07:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsXMXkkoCco
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2668118, lmao Posted by bshelly, Thu Jul-12-18 07:34 AM
i thoroughly enjoyed how unintentionally dad joke all this "it's coming home" stuff was.
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2668228, LOL Posted by Castro, Thu Jul-12-18 09:36 PM
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2668231, it’s your boy https://www.facebook.com/lequipe.fr/videos/10155709827397066/ Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jul-12-18 10:43 PM
https://www.facebook.com/lequipe.fr/videos/10155709827397066/
MMMBOP PIDDLYBIPBAP MMMBOP
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2668234, The roll-over touch on the dead sprint while killing the ball Posted by LA2Philly, Fri Jul-13-18 12:14 AM
Honestly, the only other dude I've seen do it at that pace and touch was Henry.
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