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2649394, Kyrie ain't walking through that door! Posted by Melanism, Thu Apr-05-18 11:56 AM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/981937022628712448
In the aftermath of left knee surgery, Boston Celtics All-Star guard Kyrie Irving will miss the rest of the regular season and playoffs, league sources told ESPN.
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2649395, well, shit Posted by Dstl1, Thu Apr-05-18 11:57 AM
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2649396, Bucks, Wiz, Heat all jockeying for that matchup Posted by Deebot, Thu Apr-05-18 11:59 AM
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2649399, damn, Wiz and Bucks got identical records with 4 games left... Posted by Dstl1, Thu Apr-05-18 12:05 PM
Wiz in 7th with the tie-breaker.
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2649397, sheeeesh, man terrible. Posted by Cenario, Thu Apr-05-18 12:02 PM
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2649398, wow that sucks Posted by sndesai1, Thu Apr-05-18 12:04 PM
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2649401, Boston has been winning regardless of who's on the floor Posted by Vex_id, Thu Apr-05-18 12:13 PM
but in the playoffs you need your big guns (unless you're Golden State and have MVP's to spare).
Sucks for Kyrie as he was playing exceptionally well - but Rozier is balling and Boston's system is superior. They will still be competitive and can beat anyone in the East w/ home-court advantage.
On a different note: This makes the news surrounding kyrie's alleged threat to sit out and opt for surgery if Cleveland didn't trade him all the more fascinating.
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2649402, damn, he had a great year Posted by DJR, Thu Apr-05-18 12:26 PM
Wanted to see what they could do in the playoffs with him healthy.
From the C’s standpoint, Hayward down for the season in game 1 and Kyrie out for the playoffs. Brutal.
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2649403, surgery scheduled for Saturday... Posted by Dstl1, Thu Apr-05-18 12:35 PM
https://twitter.com/celtics/status/981946308431892481
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2649404, Wow. That sucks. Wishing the best for him Posted by mrhood75, Thu Apr-05-18 12:41 PM
Hope he gets healthy so he can be ready to really battle things out next year with a healthy Hayward and whoever else the Celts pick up.
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2649405, Wait? He threatened season-ending surgery last year to force a trade? Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Apr-05-18 12:44 PM
https://twitter.com/PDcavsinsider/status/981948761852260352
Is this true?
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2649407, the Lebron gif in that tweet.. smh Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Apr-05-18 12:47 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/4MHv5aIo6SI2A/giphy.gif
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2649408, if it were, dont you think the linked article would have some sort of citation? Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Apr-05-18 12:48 PM
instead of existing in hearsay in tweets from an unverfied account?
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/01/kyrie-irving-cavaliers-trade-celtics-knee-surgery-threat-report-not-true-denies-nba
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2649413, well - cbs, espn and many other sources reported on it Posted by Vex_id, Thu Apr-05-18 12:52 PM
so it's not exactly something that emanates from "cavsstans.net" -- but do you think there's any scenario where Kyrie would be like "oh yea, no doubt - that's completely true. I threatened to sit out and used surgery as leverage to get traded." Nobody in league history would admit to it with a mega contract pending in a couple of years.
What we do know is that Kyrie was super adamant about leaving Cleveland - and being a free agent - it's feasible that he had to do something to force hands instead of stay in a situation where he was unhappy.
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2649438, reporting hearsay doesnt make it *not* hearsay Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Apr-05-18 02:48 PM
and a franchise putting out false rumors about someone who wanted out seems way more likely given that kyrie could have just "no commented" rather than issue an out-and-out denial
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2649416, Apparently it was well known. But this is why I ASKED. Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Apr-05-18 12:59 PM
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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
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2649422, cannot wait until lebron sees that 7th pick at lottery and dips Posted by Basaglia, Thu Apr-05-18 01:28 PM
cavs fans are hilarious.
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2649453, Even if true, I see nothing wrong with it. Posted by Ryan M, Thu Apr-05-18 03:12 PM
I'm all for the players dictating their future.
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2649460, it seems possible he was told he'd need follow up surgery eventually Posted by Rjcc, Thu Apr-05-18 03:45 PM
www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
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2649485, There was a pretty funny anecdote on the latest Lowe Post pod Posted by Nodima, Thu Apr-05-18 10:59 PM
"Sounds like a HIPPA violation to me."
He's denied that quote since this news broke but I think that's a totally Kyrie style answer given all the media trolling he's done through his career.
~~~~~~~~~ "This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517 Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz
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2649409, Geesh. Bron's had luck on his side re: Eastern Conference injuries Posted by RandomFact, Thu Apr-05-18 12:48 PM
Dude stays cruising in May.
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2649412, he was going again, anyway...whether this happened or not Posted by Dstl1, Thu Apr-05-18 12:52 PM
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2649415, Cavs still fighting for the 3 seed. Posted by Vex_id, Thu Apr-05-18 12:54 PM
I don't think 2 home wins v. the Raptors changes the landscape entirely - nor does this injury. Bron will be playing with a new, inexperienced team that has never been in the playoff trenches together - and they will have to do it without home court advantage.
If Bron can carry this team to the Finals - it will be on-par with some of his greatest accomplishments.
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2649417, lol, they winning man... Posted by Dstl1, Thu Apr-05-18 01:04 PM
there is not currently a team in the East with the sack to beat a team with Lebron on it in a series. They're just not ready.
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2649448, jeez for someone on bron jock he stay setting the bar low. Posted by Cenario, Thu Apr-05-18 03:05 PM
Bron is goat.
Idk winning 4 games in front of drake is tuff.
*rolls eyes*
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2649454, nah - bron has just spoiled everybody. Posted by Vex_id, Thu Apr-05-18 03:14 PM
They just take it for granted and presume he'll be in the Finals because he's that great - and they sniff at 7 straight finals appearances like it's no big deal - even though it's never been accomplished in the modern era.
How many teams in nba history have wholesale traded the core of their roster like this at the all-star break and made it to the Finals?
If he goes to the Finals for an 8th straight time - with this team that was banded together - ad hoc? yea - it's a big deal and the bitter Hurt Lockers won't be able to dilute it.
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2649489, Lol stop Posted by Stadiq, Fri Apr-06-18 12:02 AM
Bron is great- no denying that.
But why are you so pressed then?
Why are you ‘doubting’ him this year?
Stop it. Raptors gonna Raptor. Boston is broken.
The mid-season trade was a huge upgrade.
Etc.
He’s about to take second place again. We all know that gets you guys hyped- no need to lower the bar and pretend this years second place is somehow more special.
Actually, his first second place since his return was a more impressive second place...
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2649487, The bar-lowering is straight up strange Posted by Stadiq, Thu Apr-05-18 11:56 PM
Like, some of these dudes are so insecure about Bron’s legacy they will tell straight up lies.
Dudes were partying after the mid season trade, now they are downplaying his chances.
If they really believed he was ‘goat’ they wouldn’t act so insecure.
They are also desperate to gas up another finals loss.
2nd place has literally never been celebrated this much for anyone.
> >Idk winning 4 games in front of drake is tuff. > >*rolls eyes*
Lol!!! I’m saying! Beating a choke ass raptor squad and/or a broken Celtics team is legacy building now? Goat worthy? Foh.
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2649503, who is down-playing? Posted by Vex_id, Fri Apr-06-18 07:59 AM
> Beating a choke ass raptor >squad and/or a broken Celtics team is legacy >building now? Goat worthy? Foh.
Both of those teams have played more consistently than the Cavs - and have their core intact for far longer. They *should* beat the Cavs.
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2649529, the celts core? Posted by thejerseytornado, Fri Apr-06-18 10:07 AM
wtf are you talking about? First, the top two pplayers for the Cs are out for the playoffs.
Second, Boston flipped almost its entire roster from last year. The only remaining players from last season are Horford, Brown , Smart (hurt also), and Rozier.
----------- you think we playing chess, but i'm playing mad-making. Basaglia
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2649537, RE: the celts core? Posted by Vex_id, Fri Apr-06-18 11:07 AM
They are scrambling as well but have had more time to gel than the Cavs - and have played more consistently throughout the season.
I know it's upsetting to imagine LeBron winning the east again - so it's reflexive to just say "the east sucks and he BETTER win" - but facts are facts: nobody else in the league could carry this cleveland team to the Finals - and if Bron does - partying will be scheduled.
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2654692, CAAAAAAN YOOOUUUUU DIG ITTTTTT????? (c) Posted by Dstl1, Sat May-05-18 10:58 PM
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2654694, haha nice uppage. But upon review - I was right about 2 things: Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-05-18 11:02 PM
(1) This Boston team is dynamic and very, very good even without Kyrie Irving (2) This playoff run has been unreal for LeBron James - and ranks up there with his greatest stretches of basketball, ever. To carry this team *like this* is out of this world.
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2649424, the east pussy af man. cavs in the finals was never in doubt Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Apr-05-18 01:40 PM
aside from it being fun to troll bron stans about.
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2649427, What does that even mean? Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Apr-05-18 01:51 PM
>aside from it being fun to troll bron stans about.
How do you troll Lebron for playing in the East?
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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
(C)Keith Murray, "
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2649443, people troll lebron for breathing Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Apr-05-18 02:58 PM
you dont think they can troll lebron for playing in a weak conference. its just banter.
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2649469, Fair. n.m Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Apr-05-18 05:57 PM
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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
(C)Keith Murray, "
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2649441, cavs in the finals has been a doubt for almost everybody Posted by Vex_id, Thu Apr-05-18 02:54 PM
at some point this year. But nice classic hedging to try and downplay the accomplishment should they make it out of the East.
This will be the worst Lebron-led team that made it to the finals since he performed a miracle against Detroit in his first finals appearance. Cavs have no business going to the Finals this year except for one reason: The greatness of Lebron. It will be a huge achievement if it happens.
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2649446, oh jesus Posted by RandomFact, Thu Apr-05-18 03:03 PM
>If Bron can carry this team to the Finals - it will be on-par >with some of his greatest accomplishments. > >-->
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2649423, yeah, that shit sounds good now. he should stay, do it next year then Posted by Basaglia, Thu Apr-05-18 01:34 PM
nm
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2649434, I'm not even sure what you're getting at here... Posted by Dstl1, Thu Apr-05-18 02:11 PM
gonna assume you think I'm going at Kyrie. I have been damn near singular on here saying the Cavs were coming out of the East...before all the trades, even. There's hella posts where I go on record. Even made a $100 bet with Dula, based on the old team with Shump and nem, so...
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2649435, nah, i think you going at a lot of players Posted by Basaglia, Thu Apr-05-18 02:25 PM
i ain't giving the cavs the nod over the bucks or philly. too many people been out. i ain't been buying that "going to win anyway" shit people ben selling since hayward went down. all that is easy to say NOW.
let brogdon get up to speed and bucks start clicking. that the team i wanna see the cavs get by. they pretty much gonna be whole.
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2649437, bro, folks was partying on how sorry the Cavs... Posted by Dstl1, Thu Apr-05-18 02:33 PM
were when they went on them losing streaks....WELL after people had forgotten about Heyward not being a piece of the puzzle, anymore for Boston. The mere mention of them and finals resulted in a string of "lols". I still said it. You keep stressin now, but I been on it. I ain't going at no one. I think Bron is still that good...right today.
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2649440, when the cavs were their lowest, people still picked them to win east Posted by Basaglia, Thu Apr-05-18 02:53 PM
yeah, they were sorry and niggas laughed, but nobody picked another team to beat them.
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2649450, right on Posted by Dstl1, Thu Apr-05-18 03:07 PM
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2649411, damn. at least this year was playing w/ house money Posted by thejerseytornado, Thu Apr-05-18 12:51 PM
since day 1 after hayward's injury. still, i had hopes. but this team just has far too many injuries now.
----------- you think we playing chess, but i'm playing mad-making. Basaglia
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2649414, Damn I wanted that John vs Kyrie matchup in the playoffs. Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Thu Apr-05-18 12:53 PM
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2649419, Is Wall going to be back for the play-offs? Honestly hadn't heard Posted by mrhood75, Thu Apr-05-18 01:09 PM
Man, it's rough out here for PGs.
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2649421, He came back over the weekend. Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Thu Apr-05-18 01:18 PM
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2649431, I we get a Rozier/ Wall matchup, so it hurts you even more. Posted by Basaglia, Thu Apr-05-18 02:03 PM
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2649465, Nobody wanna see that. Wiz will win in 5. Maybe 6. Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Thu Apr-05-18 04:59 PM
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2649466, what do i win if the celtics win? nothing as always...just more of your talk Posted by Basaglia, Thu Apr-05-18 05:14 PM
lmao...you seriously just keep talking through Ls. wiz sorry as shit. you just gon blame otto.
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2649491, bluster, cyse, cyse, bluster, repeat. Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Fri Apr-06-18 01:33 AM
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2649447, Boston's still gonna face Bron. Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Apr-05-18 03:05 PM
Terry Rozier has really impressed me in Kyrie's absence, and between Brown and Tatum's skill on the wing and Stevens's skill coaching, I don't see this keeping Boston from winning the first round. It'll make it harder, of course, and it'll obviously make getting past Bron that much more daunting of a task-- but if anyone's up for making an unexpected run, it's Stevens and Co.
It's all leading to next season anyway. Assuming Bron is still with the Cavs.
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2649459, that's alot to ask of the young boys + Al Horford Posted by Deebot, Thu Apr-05-18 03:23 PM
it can be done, no doubt, especially with home court and coaching advantage, but the bottom 3 teams are all completely salivating right now. Who will be Boston's man in the clutch? They gonna just go with whoever's open?
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2649470, It is, but they're still the best defense in the NBA. Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Apr-05-18 06:06 PM
I don't think replacing Irving with Rozier will change that. They're also third in the NBA in 3-point percentage, and while that'll dip some with Kyrie out, Rozier's shown that he's certainly capable of lighting up.
In terms of who gets the ball in a clutch moment, sure, I'd feed the hot hand-- run a PNR with Brown/Tatum/Rozier with the ball and Horford setting the screen.
Combine all that with the homecourt advantage, and I still like the odds of moving on from the first round without Kyrie.
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2649471, yup - Boston has played very well even without Irving Posted by Vex_id, Thu Apr-05-18 06:18 PM
and Rozier has emerged as one of the most underrated players in the league. They'll be a tough out for anyone - especially with home-court advantage.
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2649477, Might not see them in the second round Posted by Premiere, Thu Apr-05-18 07:47 PM
If Philly wins this weekend's matchup with Cleveland. In that case, we'd get a Youth v. Youth battle with Philly in the second round most likely. And I like Tatum a lot, but not enough to score consistently enough against the Sixers to win.
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2649488, TBH, with Embiid out, I expect Cleveland to claim the 3rd seed. Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Apr-05-18 11:57 PM
I agree that a healthy Philly would be very tough for an unhealthy Boston to beat. Though it'd be a very fun matchup.
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2649492, I mean they are winning without him and he'll be back in Round 1 Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Fri Apr-06-18 01:38 AM
Obviously it's precarious but there is no reason to consider him "out," if anything the prognosis is for a return early in Round 1.
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2649531, I think you missed my point. Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Apr-06-18 10:31 AM
My point was i expected his absence to affect their seeding— he *will* be our most likely the rest of the regular season. I never implied his absence would affect their playoff performance, as I too expect him back at some point during Round 1.
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2649587, I think you missed that they have won 12 games in a row Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Fri Apr-06-18 01:37 PM
Absence isn't exactly killing them like it did earlier in the season
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2649591, Didn't miss that at all. Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Apr-06-18 01:45 PM
It comes down to tonight's game, really, as I don't really expect the Cavs to lose either game to the Knicks.
And I expect the Cavs to win tonight because Embiid is out, and he'd be a big difference maker against the healthy (and also hot) Cavs.
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2649616, FWIW George Hill out tonight. Posted by Aeon, Fri Apr-06-18 04:16 PM
Should be a good game, either way.
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2649625, lmao, WELP, so much for that Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Apr-06-18 07:04 PM
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2649632, you forgot that Cavs expended a ton of energy last night Posted by Vex_id, Fri Apr-06-18 07:31 PM
and scrambled back from a 17-point deficit in the 4th vs. the Wiz. Tough ask on a back-to-back w/ the hottest team in the league rested and amped as hell for this game. And I agree that winner of this game gets the 3rd seed.
Philly is for-real. They can beat Boston, Toronto - and yes - Cleveland - especially if they have home-court advantage.
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2654711, LONGODAMUS. Posted by Frank Longo, Sat May-05-18 11:26 PM
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2649479, Bron's playoff luck is amazing Posted by theeraser, Thu Apr-05-18 08:24 PM
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2649490, 2015 happened Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Fri Apr-06-18 01:31 AM
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2649508, fair, but his leadership pressured kyrie and led to that kneecap Posted by Basaglia, Fri Apr-06-18 08:40 AM
kyrie sprained his foot against boston and was supposed to sit for the rest of the series and maybe the next. nope...bron implied that kyrie was soft since everyone was hurting (not injured, hurting) and kyrie stupidly played injured with trash biomechanics tryna alleviate pain in the foot, which led to tendinitis in the knee, which weakened his patella and it cracked the moment it got hit with a stern blow.
"However, it's likely the fracture is at least partially resultant from the tendinitis. As I've explained before, the inflammation caused by tendinitis can irritate other parts of the joint. Because the patellar tendon connects directly to the patella, tendinitis can in rare cases cause inflammation of this bone, and if prolonged without rest, that can cause the bone and it's articular cartilage to deteriorate."
when i read that, i hated lebron for a good year. but, you know what? that was ky's choice to play. so that was really on him. the only choice lebron had in the matter was to be the trash finger-pointing leader he is.
can't wait to see who he blames in a couple months. maybe sooner.
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2649515, ahhh and the Ba Bron envy truth comes out. #BlameLeBron Posted by Vex_id, Fri Apr-06-18 09:22 AM
>kyrie sprained his foot against boston and was supposed to >sit for the rest of the series and maybe the next. nope...bron >implied that kyrie was soft
What are you referring to here? How did Bron imply kyrie was "soft"?
>when i read that, i hated lebron for a good year. but, you >know what? that was ky's choice to play. so that was really on >him. the only choice lebron had in the matter was to be the >trash finger-pointing leader he is.
LOL. Lebron is a "trash finger-pointing leader" now? What happened to Ky & The Kang? The party is over : (
>can't wait to see who he blames in a couple months. maybe >sooner.
Bron wanting to have the requisite (healthy) talent to compete with juggernaut stacked teams is nothing to get mad about.
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2649517, he don't have the talent to compete with juggernaut teams. Posted by Basaglia, Fri Apr-06-18 09:24 AM
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2649543, Can't be true, LeBron is sports' greatest ever teammate and leader Posted by theeraser, Fri Apr-06-18 11:20 AM
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2649588, Touched. Special. (c) AB. I was just saying LeBron wasn't "lucky" in 2015 Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Fri Apr-06-18 01:39 PM
He had Love and Kyrie both go down around him. I wasn't saying anything about Kyrie being injury-prone (though he is) or whose fault it was or wasn't. Speedy recovery for your guy. I hope all your agendas blow up (on track) but not like this.
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2649621, having a surgery he was gonna need anyway isn't "injury prone" Posted by Basaglia, Fri Apr-06-18 05:32 PM
i was JUST saying he would have had kyrie in 2015 if they had played it smart with a simple ass foot sprain, instead of being captain macho and calling him out on some "pain management" type noise. if we speaking facts, kyrie could have pain managed his ass right into the playoffs this year, but HE'S the leader of HIS team and his teammates knew if he was saying something wasn't right, then dammit, that's the final word. it ain't like kyrie known for ducking wreck. and sure enough...wire and screws were rubbing against his tendon. so, he didn't GET injured. he needed all that shit taken out. it couldn't wait anymore.
and i'll be DAMN sure to pretend to be concerned about embiid's next injury (because he's injury prone and hasn't accomplished shit), since we offering unsolicited asides.
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2649516, no doubt. he plays only trash teams. OKC, Spurs, GSW Posted by Vex_id, Fri Apr-06-18 09:23 AM
such luck.
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2649530, *looking at what those teams have in common* Posted by Ryan M, Fri Apr-06-18 10:08 AM
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2649538, *all teams that went deep into the playoffs for a championship run* Posted by Vex_id, Fri Apr-06-18 11:08 AM
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2649622, o wow foreal? dam. how deep did they go? Posted by Ryan M, Fri Apr-06-18 05:34 PM
like, finals?
like, they couldn't have played the cavs any earlier than the finals?
wonder why
o wow
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2649544, He doesn't get blamed for losing to those teams tho Posted by theeraser, Fri Apr-06-18 11:21 AM
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2649581, Typical Kyrie Posted by hip bopper, Fri Apr-06-18 01:25 PM
He’s always been brittle.
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2649590, Hi hip bopper Posted by DJR, Fri Apr-06-18 01:42 PM
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2626188&mesg_id=2626188&listing_type=search#2626228
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2649614, Got em (c) Posted by Dstl1, Fri Apr-06-18 04:01 PM
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2649619, You say that like they are gonna make some noise. Posted by hip bopper, Fri Apr-06-18 05:15 PM
They are gonna get bounced fairly easily.
Offensively they are at the bottom of the NBA. It’s gonna be even tougher for them to get buckets in the playoffs. They managed to be in the upper echelon thanks to Stevens, but when the playoffs roll around it’ll be the same story... an exit!!!
No Kyrie nor Hayward, and possibly no Smart spells disaster for them.
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2649606, sucks. but damn. Posted by Dr Claw, Fri Apr-06-18 03:09 PM
I'm ignoring the spin for now. Boston is gonna be some bullshit when he returns. and by "bullshit" I don't mean sucky.
I mean, that team will be eating da poo poo once Heyward and Ky are back
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2649636, So Kyrie still has never made the playoffs without LeBron Posted by isaaaa, Fri Apr-06-18 07:54 PM
Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg http://Tupreme.com
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2649639, Hot, but wrong, take! Posted by Ryan M, Fri Apr-06-18 08:08 PM
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-wrap-thursday-scores-highlights-celtics-lock-up-playoff-spot-timberwolves-nets-76ers/967tzru2k7zw12ab2qk9vojmx
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2649708, Kyrie has yet to make the playoffs bruh, he out for da year lol Posted by isaaaa, Sat Apr-07-18 03:53 PM
Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg http://Tupreme.com
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2649711, Oh cool you’re dumb Posted by Ryan M, Sat Apr-07-18 04:54 PM
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2654742, he's also POOPINCHICAGO/FromTheBowl Posted by Dr Claw, Sun May-06-18 07:55 AM
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