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2640516, Woj BOMB....Blake to Detroit done...
Posted by Dstl1, Mon Jan-29-18 06:36 PM
Pistons get: Blake, Brice, Willie Reed
Clips get: Tobias, Avery, Boban a 1st and 2nd


https://twitter.com/wojespn?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
2640517, LOL. What a horrible, horrible franchise.
Posted by bignick, Mon Jan-29-18 06:37 PM
2640544, RE: LOL. What a horrible, horrible franchise.
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Mon Jan-29-18 07:28 PM
That’s actually a big haul for him
2640546, Sure. People are gonna pack Staples for Tobias & Avery.
Posted by bignick, Mon Jan-29-18 07:30 PM
2640607, Right. Better hope Bron is walking through
Posted by Stadiq, Mon Jan-29-18 11:06 PM
That door. And a couple others.

Otherwise, it’s going to be a looooong stretch.


Everyone was itching for them to blow it up...
word?


Like I get they never saw the conference finals,
but not sure years in the lottery is worth the
potential that you climb that hill higher this time.

Especially since history says they probably won’t.

I mean, the clippers were actually respectable.


Probably should have enjoyed that while it lasted.

All the folks who yelled blow it up... now what?

2640653, LMAO @ this from a Lakers fan
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Tue Jan-30-18 11:02 AM
You guys got your own problem and what they are doing is essentially a carbon copy of the Lakers' "sell it off and bank on UFAs/a super team." This was not a bad trade.
2640679, LMAO at you putting us in the same breath as that shit show.
Posted by bignick, Tue Jan-30-18 12:56 PM

2640861, Well for the past five years the other way around was laughable
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Wed Jan-31-18 10:08 AM
And now they are both pursuing the same plan so ...
2641947, wow, 5 whole years.. never mind we won 5 chips the past decade
Posted by LegacyNS, Tue Feb-06-18 07:34 AM
lol @ a Sixers fan sticking up for the Clippers.. I guess that makes sense when you think about it...


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

=======================================
2709845, TGIS
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Wed Jan-01-20 05:30 PM
2640520, Clips cutting bait, clearing cap space
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jan-29-18 06:41 PM
DJ was already gone this summer.
2640523, Tobias and Boban are owed $22M combined next year too
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Jan-29-18 06:48 PM
2640554, Blake is owed 4/136
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jan-29-18 07:45 PM
It's a net cap space gain this year and significant cap space gain after next year. In the meantime, they might get some assets back for Boban and Tobias next year as well.
2640592, so what do they do for the next 18 months?
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Jan-29-18 10:20 PM
hope they can get a sign-and-trade this summer?

2640616, They look to off-load those contracts next season
Posted by LA2Philly, Tue Jan-30-18 12:43 AM
Both will be expiring which make them attractive...and they continue to gain more assets as they rebuild.
2640655, Flip Bradley, move those other guys as soon as they can
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Tue Jan-30-18 11:03 AM
They pick up two picks here and will get junk contracts and picks for those guys.

The idea here is to tear down for a super team, I think. DJ and Lou Williams will get moved also.
2640521, I know Blake pissed lol
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jan-29-18 06:45 PM
2640522, Really not a bad deal for either franchise imo.
Posted by Frank Longo, Mon Jan-29-18 06:48 PM
Assuming LA can resign Bradley. I really like Tobias, and he's three years younger than Blake, so him, Bradley, and two picks, one a first rounder, for Blake... is a pretty good haul tbh. Likely the first of multiple moves, all of which will likely look to include picks and/or young talent. Not sure what they could get for DJ considering he's expiring IIRC, but at this point, cut your losses, tank hard, aim for a Top 5/6 pick, and see where you are in terms of young talent next season. Depending on what they think of AB and Tobias, either resign or pocket the money to go after the next big free agent.

Pistons moved a guy they wanted out and a guy who might not've resigned after next season for Blake Griffin who still has a couple good years left to play alongside Drummond with Reggie Jackson running point. Considering the Pistons have Kennard, Johnson, and Ellenson to continue to develop/fill in additional minutes, that's a decent core in the East imo. Still not an ECF team... but maybe if they can ditch Galloway and/or Leuer they can have the money to pursue one more FA?
2640530, tbh until 10 minutes ago i just wanted leuer to be healthy
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Jan-29-18 06:59 PM
with the roster shakeup now, hes absolutlely useless, but i wasnt desperate for them to move him
2640524, Poor Blake.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Mon Jan-29-18 06:48 PM
2640539, RE: Poor Blake.
Posted by kinetic94761180, Mon Jan-29-18 07:16 PM
https://twitter.com/blakegriffin32/status/958129678677454848
2640553, better teammates at every position except 6th man
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Jan-29-18 07:45 PM
he's not upset lol
2640568, What's their Top 6?
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Mon Jan-29-18 08:12 PM
2640582, Drummond, Reggie, Kennard, Stanley >>>
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Jan-29-18 09:11 PM
DJ, Austin Rivers, Teodosic, Wesley Johnson

and obviously Lou Wills is the 6th man. but Reggie Bullock is our 6th man and hes still better than 3 of those starters

2640585, After Drummond & Reggie the rest of those dudes are trash.
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jan-29-18 09:18 PM
2640587, you wouldnt know nm
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Jan-29-18 09:44 PM
2640589, I know they were the 9th seed in east and lost 9 of their last 10 games.
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jan-29-18 10:14 PM
2640595, Bradley and Harris own that tho
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Jan-29-18 10:31 PM
thats a huge part of WHY they were sliding
2640598, Just stop it.
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jan-29-18 10:37 PM
2640606, LMAO!
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Jan-29-18 11:05 PM
you brought up the record like it was a trump card, yet were too silly to think about the fact that Bradley is -7.7 per game over that stretch, while Kennard is +2.5 OR that Tobias is -6.9 and Stanley is +2.0 (he only played 6 of those games because of an injury)

dumbass
2640611, You really quoting plus/minus numbers?
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jan-29-18 11:18 PM
>you brought up the record like it was a trump card, yet were
>too silly to think about the fact that Bradley is -7.7 per
>game over that stretch, while Kennard is +2.5 OR that Tobias
>is -6.9 and Stanley is +2.0 (he only played 6 of those games
>because of an injury)
>
>dumbass
2640612, you made a dumb statement and caught yourself in a logic trap
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Jan-29-18 11:33 PM
Avery and Toboas own those losses. watching it would really help here but I know thats not your thing so i tried to give it to you in your normal box score language.

dont know what else to tell you other than to catch up
2640613, Don’t ever post about basketball again.
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jan-29-18 11:43 PM
2640798, take this real-time L you mouth-breather
Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Jan-30-18 11:00 PM
2641311, can i post about basketball again, idiot?
Posted by cgonz00cc, Sat Feb-03-18 09:31 PM
Stanley, 3 games since the trade: 18/7/3

Rwggie Bullock, 3 games since the trade: 15/3/1 on 53/54 shooting

3 wins, including Stanley bossing up on Bron in a win without Blake. SIX double digit scorers in each game.

watch a game bro, and tell me Avery and Tobias werent part of the problem.

foh
2641313, Did I tell you about my New Year's Resolution?
Posted by Frank Longo, Sat Feb-03-18 09:38 PM
I made it my New Year's Resolution not to engage people, here or on Twitter, that I know aren't engaging in earnest. I'm doing decently so far. Some people won't ever stop fighting or deflecting or making statements without watching games. So those people aren't really worth the time it takes to engage with them, imo. I've wasted enough of my life trying to force Ls into the hands of those who simply refuse to acknowledge reality.

Anyhow. Just thought I'd share. No particular reason.
2641334, lol - while i hear you
Posted by cgonz00cc, Sat Feb-03-18 10:58 PM
im both petty and experiencing a high rate of return on basketball fandom

being able to type all that out was its own reward. twisting a knife into someone's credibility is just butterscotch sauce.
2641963, You're just MAD that I shitted on Kennard.
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Feb-06-18 10:11 AM
2641950, If you’re seriously trying to use +/- stats to determine a player’s...
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Feb-06-18 08:22 AM
value then no you can’t.
2644976, RE: If you’re seriously trying to use +/- stats to determine a player’s...
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Feb-27-18 03:39 PM
https://youtu.be/YNcM25UsOpI
2644982, dont you ever wonder why no one ever cosigns you?
Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Feb-27-18 03:57 PM
or are you too DK'd to even think about it?
2640605, Oh you were serious?
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Mon Jan-29-18 11:00 PM
Drummond & DJ are a wash.
Blake > Tobias
Gallo > Stanley
Bradley > Whatever the Pistons got (Kennard?)
Austin & Reggie are a wash
Lou Will > Pistons 6th man

Sooooooo nah
2640610, i dont think you understood my statement
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Jan-29-18 11:12 PM
>Drummond & DJ are a wash.

lol no. not even close.

>Blake > Tobias

blake cant be his own teammate. i specifically left out all players involved in the trade, because ik comparing the groups of leftovers.

>Gallo > Stanley

uh, based on what? Gallo is shooting 34/24, and isnt half the defender Stanley is, so?

>Bradley > Whatever the Pistons got (Kennard?)

Blake wasnt teammates with Bradley before, still isnt. the name you are looking for here is Tyrone Wallace or Milos Teodosic or Wesley Johnson. again, im comparing holdovers.

>Austin & Reggie are a wash

haha youre still salty about that? healthy Reggie is so much better than Austin Rivers that other ppl who may not realize you have a vendetta will be really confused about that statement. even Ba thinks thats ludicrous.

>Lou Will > Pistons 6th man

i agreed. but the fact is

Drummond > DJ
Stanley > Gallinari
Kennard > Johnson/Wallace/Teodosic
Reggie>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Austin
2640669, My point was, Blake is going to a shittier situation
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Tue Jan-30-18 11:54 AM
>>Drummond & DJ are a wash.
>
>lol no. not even close.
>

Not even close huh?

14.7 pts 15.1 rebs 1.4 blks 54% FG 23.7 PER

vs

11.9 pts 14.8 rebs 1.0 blk 67% FG 19.8 PER

The difference is pretty negligible.

>>Blake > Tobias
>
>blake cant be his own teammate. i specifically left out all
>players involved in the trade, because ik comparing the groups
>of leftovers.
>

Like I said before, I'm comparing the teams post trade.

>>Gallo > Stanley
>
>uh, based on what? Gallo is shooting 34/24, and isnt half the
>defender Stanley is, so?
>

Gallo is injured. Been injured all year. I'm gonna assume he's not injured for the rest of his life and plays to his average. Hence, he's a lot better than Stanley Johnson as any starting small forward in the NBA is also better than Stanley Johnson.

>>Bradley > Whatever the Pistons got (Kennard?)
>
>Blake wasnt teammates with Bradley before, still isnt. the
>name you are looking for here is Tyrone Wallace or Milos
>Teodosic or Wesley Johnson. again, im comparing holdovers.
>

Bradley is on the Clippers now. And Bradley is better. ***shrugs***

>>Austin & Reggie are a wash
>
>haha youre still salty about that? healthy Reggie is so much
>better than Austin Rivers that other ppl who may not realize
>you have a vendetta will be really confused about that
>statement. even Ba thinks thats ludicrous.
>

Salty about what? I told you Reggie wasn't that good. And surprise... surprise. He isn't. Why do you think the Pistons can't find a trade partner to take him?

You say "vendetta" like he's good... Lmao.

So let's go....

14.6 ppg, 5.5 apg, 45% fg, 16.6 PER

15.8 ppg, 3.8 apg, 42% fg, 13.1 PER

That's a wash.

>>Lou Will > Pistons 6th man
>
>i agreed. but the fact is
>
>Drummond > DJ
>Stanley > Gallinari
>Kennard > Johnson/Wallace/Teodosic
>Reggie>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Austin
>


So nah....
2640676, yeah...not even close.
Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Jan-30-18 12:38 PM
>Not even close huh?
>
>14.7 pts 15.1 rebs 1.4 blks 54% FG 23.7 PER
>
>vs
>
>11.9 pts 14.8 rebs 1.0 blk 67% FG 19.8 PER
>
>The difference is pretty negligible.

if youre gonna list stats list em all
Drummond 3.8 apg 1.5 spg, 7.0 BPM, 3.5 VORP
Jordan 1.5 apg 0.5 spg, 1.7 BPM, 1.3 VORP

so thats more points, more rebounds, significantly more assists, significantly more blocks and steals, significant margin in +/-.

thats not a negligible difference.

>Like I said before, I'm comparing the teams post trade.


>Gallo is injured. Been injured all year. I'm gonna assume he's
>not injured for the rest of his life and plays to his average.
>Hence, he's a lot better than Stanley Johnson as any starting
>small forward in the NBA is also better than Stanley Johnson.

thats quite an assumption for a 30 year old with an ACL reconstruction in his past and a lower extremity muscle tear. ill take the defense i can count on every night

>Salty about what? I told you Reggie wasn't that good. And
>surprise... surprise. He isn't. Why do you think the Pistons
>can't find a trade partner to take him?

because injuries. obviously. also funny how Danilo Gallinari is coming back to "play to his averages" yet you ignore that in Reggie's first 108 games with the Pistons he did 18/7/4. interesting lol.

>14.6 ppg, 5.5 apg, 45% fg, 16.6 PER
>
>15.8 ppg, 3.8 apg, 42% fg, 13.1 PER

LOL thats a >25% jump. That is statistically significant, and not a "wash". Austin is almost 2 points below average and Reggie is almost 2 points above. cmon.
2640623, Dead wrong © biggie
Posted by guru0509, Tue Jan-30-18 07:17 AM
>Drummond & DJ are a wash.

2640525, Was not expecting that. DeAndre is next, I assume?
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Jan-29-18 06:51 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if they try to send him to the Cavs for the Nets pick.
2640527, Wojdate: Cips moving DJ and Sweet Lou
Posted by bignick, Mon Jan-29-18 06:54 PM
Sources: Clippers will continue to pursue packages of young players and picks in talks for DeAndre Jordan and Lou Williams.

2640529, Clippers are reverting to their natural state
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Jan-29-18 06:57 PM
2640577, TRADER DANNY MAKE IT HAPPEN
Posted by thejerseytornado, Mon Jan-29-18 08:42 PM
LORD PLEASE I WANT DEANDRE JORDAN BAAAAAAAAAAAAAD.

i don't know how to do it without included Jaylen or Jayson and I don't want to do that, but lord, deandre jordan would be such a nice addition.

-----------
you think we playing chess, but i'm playing mad-making. Basaglia
2640528, Setting the table for Gloria James baby boy?
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jan-29-18 06:56 PM
2640531, Can't see that happening. Especially if DeAndre and Lou are gone too.
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Jan-29-18 07:00 PM
At this point of his career, LeBron is going putting himself in the best position to win as many championships as possible. I don't see him going out West to a roster than may literally just have Patrick Beverly and try to win with that. If he leaves Cleveland, he's going someplace that's "one player away," not 10.
2640538, If they ditch most of the money on the books...
Posted by Frank Longo, Mon Jan-29-18 07:15 PM
... aren't there a fairly high number of stars that are technically free agents this year?

I agree that it almost certainly wouldn't happen, but I suspect if I'm a Clipper exec who think James may even be *remotely* interested, that would be the pitch: "we'll have the money for a new Big 3, let's find the two stars you'll win your next title with."
2640542, But it's easy to forget that the Heat lost the first year
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Jan-29-18 07:25 PM
Even if there are two other big name free agents out there that the Clippers could sign, building a whole roster around those three and Beverley and then expecting them to compete for a championship that very season is TALL order. Especially out West.

The Heat had the benefit of being in the East. Even the originally "big 3" on the Celtics were in the East, and they didn't completely rebuild that roster.

I doubt LeBron wants to gamble even a season of his career on "taking time to work the kinks out." If he leaves, it's gotta be for, "We can win right NOW."
2640547, RE: But it's easy to forget that the Heat lost the first year
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jan-29-18 07:32 PM

>I doubt LeBron wants to gamble even a season of his career on
>"taking time to work the kinks out." If he leaves, it's gotta
>be for, "We can win right NOW."

And where is that?
2640557, Hell, at this point the Lakers would be a better landing spot...
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Jan-29-18 07:49 PM
...than the Clippers.

Or Houston (people can take pay-cuts, but it **could** happen).

And there's teams in the East that could make it work.

Personally, I don't think he's leaving Cleveland. But I'd guess if he doesn't win it all this year, he'd rather take a pay-cut than start from scratch.
2640532, lol...who the hell is gonna be left for him to run with?
Posted by Dstl1, Mon Jan-29-18 07:00 PM
.
2640541, They’ll have enough cap space to sign more than Lebron.
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jan-29-18 07:17 PM
2640534, lol Clippers lol
Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Jan-29-18 07:07 PM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

=======================================
2640535, Wow, guess Bradley didn't work out....
Posted by Castro, Mon Jan-29-18 07:10 PM
2640550, eh i dont know if i would say that
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Jan-29-18 07:41 PM
this is 25% Kennard, 25% Reggie's injury killing the offense, 50% opportunity to get 4x all-nba player

Avery's shortcomings fit into that 2nd quadrant, but its not like he "didnt work out". obviously the Pistons havent given up on this season (and that may very well pay off when Reggie's back), but given the way the dominoes fell he just wasnt helpful paired with Ish Smith.
2640566, Right
Posted by nipsey, Mon Jan-29-18 08:09 PM
once Reggie went out, the wheels fell off this team. Tobias and Avery's offense included.

>this is 25% Kennard, 25% Reggie's injury killing the offense,
>50% opportunity to get 4x all-nba player
>
>Avery's shortcomings fit into that 2nd quadrant, but its not
>like he "didnt work out". obviously the Pistons havent given
>up on this season (and that may very well pay off when
>Reggie's back), but given the way the dominoes fell he just
>wasnt helpful paired with Ish Smith.
>
2640657, I wouldn't say it was about that. He is a on a one-year deal, right?
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Tue Jan-30-18 11:08 AM
Get something now or face the choice of losing him for nothing versus a long deal. Clippers will probably flip him now as well for the same reason, especially given that carrying salary forward doesn't seem like something they want to do.
2640543, Buh- lah Kay
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Mon Jan-29-18 07:28 PM
2640545, Oh shit!!! Willie Reed!!
Posted by Ceej, Mon Jan-29-18 07:29 PM
2640548, It's like Doc Rivers & SVG are battling to ruin the Head Coach/GM role
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Mon Jan-29-18 07:38 PM
2640677, Doc Rivers lost front office decision making
Posted by Numba_33, Tue Jan-30-18 12:40 PM
at the start of this season.
2640549, calling it now: Bron, NyQuil and unnamed others to the Clips
Posted by Dr Claw, Mon Jan-29-18 07:39 PM
Damn, Kuwabara to the Pistons.
2640551, And Melo and Wade.
Posted by Frank Longo, Mon Jan-29-18 07:43 PM
2640558, I was thinking earlier wouldn’t it make more sense to do the banana...
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jan-29-18 07:49 PM
boat thing in Chicago?
2640565, It was -14 here in late December. LA ain't never seen -14
Posted by auragin_boi, Mon Jan-29-18 08:06 PM
Plus Hollywood. Bron got a little pull in tinsel town (trainwreck, survivors remorse, doc on his high school, the one on east side's football title team, etc.)

He wants an Oscar too lol
2640576, What was the temp in Cleveland?
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jan-29-18 08:42 PM
>Plus Hollywood. Bron got a little pull in tinsel town
>(trainwreck, survivors remorse, doc on his high school, the
>one on east side's football title team, etc.)
>
>He wants an Oscar too lol

Bron ain’t focused on none of that shit during the season.
2640573, Reinsdorf is notoriously cheap....
Posted by Kira, Mon Jan-29-18 08:29 PM
If he didn't want to pay Jordan why would he pay Bron and three more all-stars?

2640579, That was a lifetime ago...
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jan-29-18 08:43 PM
>If he didn't want to pay Jordan why would he pay Bron and
>three more all-stars?
>
>
2640580, you can see that shit clear asday.
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Jan-29-18 08:53 PM
I've always thought the clippers were a more sensible LA destination than the Lakers if LeBron wants to go there. why be a laker and have to spend the next 50 years standing next to kobe at events like y'all are equals.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
2640652, Why not Boston or Golden State at this point?
Posted by Kira, Tue Jan-30-18 10:53 AM
Bron has to future proof his situation on some Vivo-Xplay-7-10-gigs-of-ra-with-512-gb of storage shit.

If it's about Chips then just cheat your way there. It worked for KD so Bron should try it.
2640670, Kyrie doesn't want him and GS doesn't have the cap space...
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Jan-30-18 12:10 PM
>Bron has to future proof his situation on some
>Vivo-Xplay-7-10-gigs-of-ra-with-512-gb of storage shit.
>
>If it's about Chips then just cheat your way there. It worked
>for KD so Bron should try it.
2640688, Like Trader Danny gonna give a fuck about Kyrie if he's getting Bron.
Posted by magilla vanilla, Tue Jan-30-18 02:03 PM
.
2640556, I don't get this rebuilding on the fly shit for the Clippers
Posted by Premiere, Mon Jan-29-18 07:47 PM
Because Lou and Bradley are still on expiring deals and both would be perfect on and desired by plenty of contenders. The Clippers should just do a hard rebuild, take the PR hit, and trade all four of the guys they can actually get returns for (DJ, Lou Will, Bradley, and Harris).

Still, that they got Blake's deal off the books and got this much back is pretty decent. As for Detroit, SVG may have just made a mess that'll take another half-decade to clean up. Not sure if he should be fired on the spot for this move or kept around since he's the only dude who has any idea how all that Detroit has now is supposed to work.
2640559, https://twitter.com/blakegriffin32/status/958129678677454848
Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Jan-29-18 07:53 PM
https://twitter.com/blakegriffin32/status/958129678677454848
2640560, Seems like a lot of Detroit people aren’t happy about this...
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jan-29-18 07:53 PM
I didn’t think they were going anywhere as constructed so it seemed like a good move.
2640567, RE: Seems like a lot of Detroit people aren’t happy about this...
Posted by nipsey, Mon Jan-29-18 08:12 PM
Those people are wrong. This team went from 4th in the conference to out of the playoffs. They were dropping fast with Reggie out. He still won't be back for another 3 or 4 weeks. Tobias has been playing like trash since Reggie went out and Avery has struggled since December. At this point, the Pistons had nothing to lose really. And...they got the best player in of the deal.

I agree it's kind of a panic move, but it won't make them any worse than they already are.
2640572, agreed fully
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Jan-29-18 08:25 PM
2640578, there's injury risk, but yeah, it's not bad.
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Jan-29-18 08:43 PM

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
2640656, Getting upset about giving away draft picks is comical.
Posted by Ceej, Tue Jan-30-18 11:05 AM
2640666, Exactly. Look at our draft picks since Drummond.
Posted by soulfunk, Tue Jan-30-18 11:44 AM
Do people actually have faith that we'd be able to get anything out of those pics we traded?

Luke Kennard
Henry Ellenson
Michael Gbinije
Stanley Johnson
Darrun Hilliard
Spencer Dinwiddie
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Tony Mitchell
Peyton Siva
2640672, Kennard is on his way to being "a Top 5 Shooting Guard"....
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Jan-30-18 12:14 PM
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2630837&mesg_id=2630837&listing_type=search
2641946, look at our draft picks since forreverrrrrrrrrr
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Feb-06-18 07:25 AM

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
2640660, It's a definite good short-term. Might not be long-term...
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Jan-30-18 11:12 AM
... but considering they've got Drummond for two more seasons until he has to exercise his player option, and they've pretty successfully surrounded him with an experienced PG and young supporting pieces, they want to show the dude that they're not constantly just stacking young talent-- they're looking to make playoff moves. This is definitely a playoff move, and as noted elsewhere, if they can successfully move pieces like Galloway or Leuer to clear more space, they could theoretically sign another good free agent this offseason.

Worst case scenario obviously is that Blake leaves his prime sooner rather than later and they're saddled with an untradeably huge deal. I get why people would be concerned about the status of this deal in 2021. That having been said, they have more immediate fish to fry, and they were ultimately going to have to sign someone to a big contract. Might as well have Blake.
2640759, I think Detroit is better at potentially pulling players than people think
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Jan-30-18 09:04 PM
but it's really sad when my example to point to is rasheed and I have to remember I'm talking about something that happened 15 years ago.

they haven't pulled players since then because they've sucked, and I think with a decent team, this city can be a destination (remember for a second that kobe almost came)

they just haven't had that for a fucking decade now.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
2640766, didnt they trade for Sheed?
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Jan-30-18 09:25 PM
2641945, it was a trade but I count it because a. there's nothing else
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Feb-06-18 07:20 AM
and b. if he hadn't wanted to come (he was in the final year of his contract) the deal wouldn't have been done.


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
2640571, they aint going anywhere w/ 4 years of damaged Max'd Blake either
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Jan-29-18 08:24 PM
2640574, DeAndre got strong armed into staying for this?
Posted by Beezo, Mon Jan-29-18 08:33 PM
2640604, i was thinking the same thing...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Mon Jan-29-18 10:55 PM
..lol.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...
2640588, I feel trading Blake is good, but not for those players...
Posted by BlassFemur, Mon Jan-29-18 10:11 PM
not sure if it's a matter of rushing to trade him or the market being sour on him, but that seems like a really low return.
2640593, Naw, I think the Clips did good in this trade.
Posted by Castro, Mon Jan-29-18 10:21 PM
2640602, I think it’s good for both. Clips get to start over and even though...
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jan-29-18 10:46 PM
they don’t want to call it a “rebuild” that’s exactly what it is. I’m certain Ballmer signed off on this still a huge gamble for Doc, I wonder if he will be allowed to time to see it through...

The Pistons weren’t going anywhere as constructed. Free agents aren’t exactly flocking to Detroit so the only way they were going to get a star was to trade for one. Blake Drummond and Reggie could be a nice foundation. If Stanley and Kennard come anywhere close to the hype there’s no reason why they couldn’t be a top 4 seed in the East.

The only loser is Blake I imagine he’s not thrilled about leaving LA for the big D lol
2640600, Hot n Readys going up again
Posted by ErnestLee, Mon Jan-29-18 10:38 PM
See you at the arena.
2640620, Blake Griffin is our guy now. That's what it is.
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Jan-30-18 04:15 AM
NOTHING STOPS THIS TRAIN.


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
2640621, CP, Blake, Crawford, JJ, and prolly Lou/DeAndre gone, but not Austin
Posted by justin_scott, Tue Jan-30-18 05:03 AM
Nope.
2640658, Who is going to trade for Austin?
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Tue Jan-30-18 11:09 AM
He has one more year left on his deal, right?
2640622, Kendall Jenner wept.
Posted by Cenario, Tue Jan-30-18 07:05 AM
2640624, I hope they stay away from the Lakers
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Jan-30-18 07:19 AM
2640671, Clips goin after Bron..obviously
Posted by LAbeathustla, Tue Jan-30-18 12:11 PM
2640674, you dudes make Vlade look like Jerry West
Posted by bshelly, Tue Jan-30-18 12:34 PM
they traded a fading, aging, injury-prone star on a horrendous contract for cap flexibility and a pick.
2640685, 2 years and change ago these dudes was locking Deandre in his home
Posted by Cenario, Tue Jan-30-18 01:42 PM
smh
2640687, Sorta win win I guess.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Jan-30-18 01:59 PM
The Clippers win by realizing Blake is not the guy to lead a team, getting flexibility and assets.

Blake/Drummond is a better version of Blake/DJ.

Still a Lakers town.
2640745, TNT got boned hard tonight
Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Jan-30-18 08:02 PM
Detroit at 8
Clips at 1030
2640748, I forgot Jerry West was with the Clippers now...
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Jan-30-18 08:12 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/jerry-west-clippers-making-lebron-james-play-165352179.html
2640749, LOU WILLIAMS BACK TO THE SIXERS PLEASE
Posted by Aeon, Tue Jan-30-18 08:23 PM
🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
2640862, If the price is right then hell yes.
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Wed Jan-31-18 10:09 AM
2641025, LOL...I had completely forgot this happened....
Posted by Dstl1, Thu Feb-01-18 07:19 AM
shoutout to Windy for bringing it up on Tuesday's Hoop Collective
https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/881202410907029504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheundefeated.com%2Ffeatures%2Fblake-griffin-t-shirt-sends-social-media-into-a-frenzy%2F
2641152, RE: LOL...I had completely forgot this happened....
Posted by blueeclipse, Thu Feb-01-18 11:08 PM
Corniest shit I've ever fuckin seen. Holy shit. lol.
2641155, 24/10/5, 2 blk, 11-13 ft. no dunks :(
Posted by cgonz00cc, Fri Feb-02-18 12:30 AM
Andre did 14/15/3 with 3 stl and a block

Reggie Bullock and Stanley have combined for 77/19/9 over the past 2 games in place of Avery and Tobias.

Blake and Andre is going to be so NOT like Blake and DJ. There are going to be lots of games where they combine for 10+ assists.

when Reggie gets back...shit.
2641336, Am I dumb or is a Houston vs Detroit Finals in play
Posted by Tiger Woods, Sat Feb-03-18 11:00 PM
2641342, thats crazy talk right now, but success is dependent on Reggie
Posted by cgonz00cc, Sat Feb-03-18 11:20 PM
this team that took the floor tonight is probably capable of winning a playoff series with a favorable matchup. Ish Smith is worth his weight in gold vut he cant play 48 minutes a night.

this team with healthy and integrated Reggie is probably capable of winning 2, and theoretically they will be able to physically overpower anyone. stanley, blake, and andre are an 800 pound frontcourt with bounce and speed and vision.

but then again, maybe Reggie comes back and shit just doesnt click. its possible they scuffle along and are Celtics fodder in round 1.

2643223, Hella dumb
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Feb-12-18 10:57 PM
2641944, wait, is this what it's like when you have a 20ppg scorer on your team?
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Feb-06-18 07:18 AM
It's been a fucking decade since the pistons had one so I've forgotten.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
2643230, grand opening, grand closing
Posted by falafel stand pimpin, Tue Feb-13-18 01:06 AM
2643234, just as silly as ^that^ Finals talk
Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Feb-13-18 07:03 AM
2643243, I thought Tobias and Avery were holding them back lol
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Feb-13-18 08:30 AM
2643241, the bench and guards are just so terrible
Posted by bshelly, Tue Feb-13-18 08:18 AM
especially when svg plays first-round pick Instead of Donovan Mitchell less than ten minutes.
2643242, smh
Posted by Ceej, Tue Feb-13-18 08:19 AM
>especially when svg plays first-round pick Instead of Donovan
>Mitchell less than ten minutes.
2643244, you mean top 5 shooting guard in the making?
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Feb-13-18 08:31 AM
>especially when svg plays first-round pick Instead of Donovan
>Mitchell less than ten minutes.
2643722, Blake got baby mama drama...
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Feb-15-18 11:06 AM
apparently she has a kid by Matt Leinart too...

https://deadspin.com/palimony-lawsuit-claims-blake-griffin-beefed-with-chris-1823013042
2709775, He looks terrible this season
Posted by falafel stand pimpin, Tue Dec-31-19 02:28 AM
Pistons are 12-22. 2 more years on that contract. Clips on the otherhand...
2709777, He's obviously not healthy
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Dec-31-19 06:36 AM
2709819, worse with him than without
Posted by cgonz00cc, Wed Jan-01-20 07:24 AM