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Topic subject | Weekend Soccer 01.13-14: Whose Mane is this? |
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2637471, Weekend Soccer 01.13-14: Whose Mane is this? Posted by benny, Fri Jan-12-18 12:16 PM
After finally concluding the long-winded Coutinho saga, Liverpool have been looking at a myriad of options on the transfer, most of which involve getting another dynamic creative midfielder (Mahrez? Rakitic?). But for now they'll have to do with a squad that's been performing well recently, winning 4 of 5 to bring them within a crack of the podium. Unfortunately for them they will have to play their first post-Coutinho game against runaway leaders City, showing no signs of slowing down despite some sketchy wins here and there. City haven't been resting on their results and have been seriously looking at new additions, with a strong preference for Alexis, though United is apparently doing all it can to swoop in instead. Klopp may decide to go for broke and play an open style, something that's actually seemed more successful compared to the bus parking tactics when facing City this season (witness Bristol City this week). Salah is due back this weekend, though he could be a game-time decision.
Speaking of Mahrez, he somehow remains at Leicester for now, despite showing this season that last year's slump may just have been a blip. The Foxes go to Chelsea with a recent record against the Blues that isn't cause for optimism but Claude Puel seems to have steadied the ship a bit since arriving so hope is not all lost.
EPL Sat 13 Jan 2018 10:00a Chelsea - Leicester 10:00a Crystal Palace - Burnley 10:00a Huddersfield - West Ham 10:00a Newcastle - Swansea 10:00a Watford - Southampton 10:00a West Brom - Brighton 12:30p Tottenham - Everton Sun 14 Jan 2018 08:30a Bournemouth - Arsenal 11:00a Liverpool - Manchester City Mon 15 Jan 2018 3:00p Manchester United - Stoke City
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2637571, These black and gold Leicester kits are kinda fire Posted by benny, Sat Jan-13-18 10:11 AM
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2637579, They're gorgeous. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sat Jan-13-18 11:58 AM
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2637578, Imma need the soccer community to talk about how Chelsea are in crisis for a bit Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sat Jan-13-18 11:58 AM
4 draws in a row. 3 of them 0-0 Actual turgid uninspiring football
Keep the same motherfucking energy as when you talk about us
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2637580, Assessing 2017 summer buys. A lot of $$ splashed but generally meh? Posted by calminvasion, Sat Jan-13-18 12:11 PM
Salah was genius. Ederson probable the most impactful.
But a lot of "ok" decent high dollar guys, and some just downright useless:
Moratta Bakayoko Lacazette Lukaku Mendy & Silva (City ball'n, but these two haven't done shit)
Siggi (everyone saw that coming) Drink water (35m) OX
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2637582, harsh to include mendy in that group since hes injured Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sat Jan-13-18 12:56 PM
morata been surprising i really thought he;'d hit the ground running since hes played well in spain and italy. really soft player.
lacazette...i just dont think wenger knows that hes doing. his linkup play is top notch
lukaku just needs actual service. in a bad rut rn but unlike last year our supporting cast is stepping up.
silva will be fine. they dont need him right now.
drinkwater and ox just a waste of money to fill numbers tho.
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2637615, CHE-LEI, easily one of the best 0-0 games I've seen in a while Posted by benny, Sat Jan-13-18 04:14 PM
can't remember the last time I saw the Blues dominated like that at home. They got lucky with the soft 2d yellow on Chilwell, otherwise it was looking like Leicester was gonna get one Great game from Mahrez, some of those cross-pitch balls were fabulous
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2637689, real in crisis? Posted by thejerseytornado, Sat Jan-13-18 09:45 PM
List at home to villarreal. Barely in cl position by one point over Villarreal right now (with a game in hand, but still).
What's up w zizou?
Meanwhile, Arda off Barca's wage bill (finally), coutinho signed, dembele healthy, Mina in to replace masche. Arthur might be next? ----------- you think we playing chess, but i'm playing mad-making. Basaglia
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2637696, Crisis is over. They lost the league. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sat Jan-13-18 10:00 PM
Once they lose the CL then it's just time for them to figure out if they want to spend 500m in the market or 700m
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2637725, watching arsenal this season reminds me of this: Posted by dillinjah, Sun Jan-14-18 10:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_xLtlNx7Io
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2637727, huge goal for the ox's head Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Jan-14-18 11:11 AM
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2637728, the Ox been balling since the transfer Posted by benny, Sun Jan-14-18 11:11 AM
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2637729, And the hits keep on coming - complete trash defensively Posted by LA2Philly, Sun Jan-14-18 11:17 AM
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2637730, Karius L M A O Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Jan-14-18 11:41 AM
please buy a Oblak or something liverpool.
or better yet, dont
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2637731, Gomez didn’t exactly help on that one Posted by benny, Sun Jan-14-18 11:44 AM
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2637732, This game is on some G shit Posted by benny, Sun Jan-14-18 12:20 PM
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2637733, Liverpool, Tottenham making progress while we regress Posted by LA2Philly, Sun Jan-14-18 12:26 PM
So glad we stuck w Wenger.
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2637737, The problem is Kroenke Posted by theeraser, Sun Jan-14-18 12:40 PM
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2637745, stfu Posted by calminvasion, Sun Jan-14-18 01:31 PM
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2637786, Funniest part of that BS is Wenger is in charge of the valuations Posted by LA2Philly, Sun Jan-14-18 04:05 PM
He’s the one who has passed on multiple players bc he deemed them as poor values for the fee (Kante, Higuain, Suarez, Lemar, Mahrez, etc etc etc).
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2637800, yall have bled as much out of this team as you can Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Jan-14-18 04:35 PM
i ran across a roster analysis of you all on redcafe. sack wenger and just start over. be the best of the rest for a bit and build back up from there.
Petr Cech - turns 36 in 4 months Laurent Koscielny - 32 - looks to be in decline Nacho Monreal - turns 32 next month Per Mertesacker - 33 - looks too slow Hector Bellerin - 23 - the only real talent in defense, how long will he stay ? Alexis Sanchez - 29 - out of contract and on his way out of the club Mesut Özil - 29 - probably the same as Sanchez Oliver Giroud - 31 - will leave in the summer Theo Walcott - soon 29 - on his way out of the club Santi Cazorla - 33 - career over ? Danny Welbeck - 27 - yet to reach 50 League goals. Scored 13 in 3.5 seasons for Arsenal. Not good enough Mohamed Elneny - 25 - hardly ever plays - not good enough Calum Chambers - 23 - hardly played after his first season at the club. Not good enough
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2637860, I agree. We're gonna be a Europa League team for a minute Posted by dillinjah, Sun Jan-14-18 06:53 PM
Hopefully we don't fall further than 6th or 7th while we figure things out post-Wenger.
Ideally, we sack Wenger this year and get Ancelotti in here for a couple of years until we identify the right manager (and director) going forward.
Unfortunately I can see Wenger staying through the end of his contract, which will prolong the timeline even further
Such is life as an arsenal fan
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2637950, Exactly, the squad sucks now Posted by theeraser, Mon Jan-15-18 06:08 PM
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2637734, Anfield magic at play here. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Jan-14-18 12:28 PM
No big teams play well there really but this is shocking from City
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2637736, I'm on my Mercury Morris: Go Liverpool! Posted by calminvasion, Sun Jan-14-18 12:37 PM
That invincible Champagne on ice
Yes, that's literally the only thing left to root for
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2637739, Wtf Posted by benny, Sun Jan-14-18 12:50 PM
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2637795, Hoooooooly shit Messi. Rulli with cement shoes on that. I dont blame him for not movie. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Jan-14-18 04:30 PM
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2637829, unreal Posted by benny, Sun Jan-14-18 05:26 PM
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2637851, the Nantes-PSG ref had a momentary lapse of sanity Posted by benny, Sun Jan-14-18 05:56 PM
https://streamable.com/1z7cs
Not sure I've ever seen something like this
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2637976, WTF??? Posted by Castro, Mon Jan-15-18 10:55 PM
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2637857, Sanchez to United bout to happen. Yall getting some cash and maybe Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Jan-14-18 06:41 PM
Mhkitaryan bum ass. Maybe Wenger can fix him
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2637858, provided y'all don't win CL or catch city in the league, I'm good with it Posted by dillinjah, Sun Jan-14-18 06:48 PM
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2637942, MARTIALMARTIALMARTIALMARTIAL Posted by benny, Mon Jan-15-18 03:42 PM
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2637944, he cooking today. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Jan-15-18 03:56 PM
cant believe arsene had the balls to ask for him in the sanchez deal lmao.
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2637979, Aubameyang hands in transfer request Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Jan-15-18 11:38 PM
https://twitter.com/ShaneBurns_/status/953049297309913089
coming to the EPL and a FIFA Ultimate Team near you!
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2637981, Looks like we have the inside track for him Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jan-15-18 11:56 PM
Nearly have Malcolm signed as well. Diamond eye Sven Mislintat (former head of scouting for Dortmund who left after a row with Tuchel - wasn’t even allowed on the pitch)...and then Tuchel was promptly fired lmao.
Although with Arsenal, I don’t believe anything until I actually see the cat on the pitch with our kit on.
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2638021, not what you need but...damn good signing if it goes thru Posted by benny, Tue Jan-16-18 10:53 AM
>Nearly have Malcolm signed as well.
Oh and it's Malcom :)
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2637982, Bobby Firmino. Posted by smutsboy, Tue Jan-16-18 12:23 AM
Plus, Who’s Mané with a ruthless finish.
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2638058, Wenger's son Theo going to Everton Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Jan-16-18 12:10 PM
tis a sad day for Papa Wenger. held onto him about 5 years too long and he never turned out good.
weirdly enough he turned down a move to Dortmund because he wanted to play for Big Sam.
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2638078, Sanchez <-> Mhkitaryan looking to be a straight swap deal Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Jan-16-18 03:51 PM
because of Sanchez deal being 6 months and MK having 2.5 or 3 years left or something like that.
kinda funky.
time to go watch more sanchez highlights.
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2638086, How’s that funky? Contract length plays a huge role in player valuations Posted by LA2Philly, Tue Jan-16-18 05:40 PM
Same as any other sport
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2638163, straight player swaps in soccer are uncommon though Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Jan-17-18 11:23 AM
i was expecting sanchez for MK+money or just sanchez for money
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2638174, Agreed but it's a 2 year contract gap - that's significant Posted by LA2Philly, Wed Jan-17-18 11:53 AM
And even though Mkhi is yet another player who Mourinho has isolated and not been able to work with (De Bruyne comes to mind), lets not forget how talented he is when he's being utilized correctly.
Additionally, you add in that Auba might be coming and the chemistry between those two is undeniable, we likely are willing to give up a little leverage and cash back in order to get the deal done....Sven doing his thing.
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2638183, RE: Agreed but it's a 2 year contract gap - that's significant Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Jan-17-18 01:10 PM
>And even though Mkhi is yet another player who Mourinho has >isolated and not been able to work with (De Bruyne comes to >mind), lets not forget how talented he is when he's being >utilized correctly. >
to be fair these extremely different situations mourinho couldnt afford to wait on KDB to come good. chelsea does not afford that kind of time to managers. he had to go with who produced immediately. (and dont even bring up Salah. no chelsea fan was sad to see the back of him. he was abysmal.) whereas at united jose is afforded the time to be patient on developing players like martial, rashford and lingard. not to mention jose has shown to be very protective of MK even though he has let us down time and time again. in fact jose played him so much we started to wonder if he was only playing so jose could save face on a marquee signing. mata and lingard stepped up and kicked him down and out of the pecking order at CAM/RAM.
also even at dortmund MK didn't play well under Klopp. only Tuchel. he was also too much of a coward (look it up) to take a pen in a cup final vs Bayern causing a defender to take it and he missed.
so MK is not some blameless victim here. he's been nothing but poor for us bar a hot handful of games at the start of this season. even last season at his best he was inconsistent. we cant even rely on him to make 5 yard passes properly or withstand a defender hounding him. so one good (and it was a great one) season out of the last 5. i guess its mourinho's fault he cant perform the basics of the game.
he'll probably do well with you all though if only because there's no pressure to succeed and no punishment for failure under Wenger. however personally i dont think hes built for the EPL game at all.
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2638099, he's aliiiive. Payet temporarily emerges from hibernation Posted by benny, Tue Jan-16-18 07:21 PM
https://streamable.com/u2klu
I'm still mad that dude is gonna be on the WC squad on the basis of two good games at the Euro, but not as mad as the goalie here (who strained a ligament on the play as well)
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2638160, Man I loved him the year he killed it in the PL Posted by smutsboy, Wed Jan-17-18 11:19 AM
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2638175, Ornstein da gawd: Walcott deal done, fee of 20+ Posted by LA2Philly, Wed Jan-17-18 11:56 AM
He had also said we were waiting on that deal before finalizing any other transfers...so now lets what happens with Malcom (thanks Benny), Auba, Mkhi.
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2638198, hilarious that ppl are saying that mkhitaryan is shit. Posted by dula dibiasi, Wed Jan-17-18 02:30 PM
uhhh yeah he's shit... under mourinho. brilliant @ BVB tho.
best 2 players in the prem this season were shit under mourinho. it happens. means nothing.
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2638207, he was brilliant 1/3 years at dortmund Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Jan-17-18 03:12 PM
average the first. abysmal the second. you dont interact w/ too many dortmund fans do you. https://www.reddit.com/r/borussiadortmund/comments/4o3k8j/watzke_confirms_mkhitaryan_wont_extend/ https://www.reddit.com/r/borussiadortmund/comments/4qwx6f/mkhitaryan_megathread/
or consider this from a dortmund fan im pretty good friends with http://www.slaent.com/thread/750677/page/1/post/750696/ http://www.slaent.com/thread/764070/page/1/post/764076/ <- sounds an awful lot similar to how he was a bust for us. before it ever even happened.
but yes it's big bad mourinho's fault.
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2638236, so creative talent hasn't wilted in the past under mourinho... Posted by dula dibiasi, Wed Jan-17-18 05:34 PM
on many many occasions, and gone on to flourish once out of his clutches?
i'm sorry, i didn't realize i was making that up. thought it was well-documented as fact.
mkh dealt with multiple injuries his 2nd yr @ dortmund, and was bundesliga POTY under tuchel in his 3rd. i'm betting he regains some of that form with a change of scenery.
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2638238, i'm no mou apologist, but nah bluhd. micki soft as shit. Posted by PROMO, Wed Jan-17-18 05:38 PM
he not built for the EPL. soon as he started getting roughed up he lost ALL his heart.
you must have not watched when he was balling the first 6 weeks being generally allowed to do what he wanted. when teams started bodying him, he lost all his mojo and hasn't done anything since.
so...yeah. enjoy that.
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2638239, Hate to say it, but I'm with the manu boys on this Posted by calminvasion, Wed Jan-17-18 05:52 PM
Jose Trump is shit, but I'm not sold on Mikki killing it with us. But I'll take him cuz our level is so low anything would help at this point.
He's 28 too! Too old to be that soft!
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2638252, 29 actually Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Jan-17-18 06:37 PM
He came to us a grown man and fully developed player. Idk how you can blame mourinho for his failure with us. We gave him every chance. Too many actually.
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2638251, you could be right. or wrong. guess we'll see. Posted by dula dibiasi, Wed Jan-17-18 06:29 PM
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2638253, 3 or 4 ppl is plenty of times? Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Jan-17-18 06:47 PM
Kdb you can say he wilted. I say it's bad timing. Salah was flat garbage for Chelsea. Lukaku again bad timing. You gonna play him above Drogba? Who else?
Meanwhile he handpicked Ozil gave him the keys and he flourished Hazard flourished under him. They just didn't mesh well despite Jose trying to build him up at any opportunity. Hazard don't have the psychotic desire to reach that ronaldo/Messi level that his talent implies. Oscar was good under Jose until Jose was sacked because of a team mutiny. Mata was the odd man out at Chelsea but now they're a match made in heaven at United.
People gotta stop wholesale eating these narratives the media feeds them. You cant judge a managers ability to bring young players thru at Chelsea. They're not in that business. Where musonda. Where RLC. They never gonna pop at Chelsea.
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2638230, Neymar doing a squad review of Dijon Posted by benny, Wed Jan-17-18 05:13 PM
https://streamable.com/nhi2u
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