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2637454, RE: I refuse to a accept these pleas
Posted by COOLEHMAGAZINE, Fri Jan-12-18 11:05 AM

>
>If Jay fought thru that injury in the NFCCG I think his whole
>career would be different. Dude looked/looks like he don't
>give a shit about winning. He needs to be fried.

He came back in, attempted to play and couldn't plant his leg and coaches pulled him. His injury was later conclusively shown to be one that you CANNOT play on. Why, why, why does this ridiculous idea persist. I mean, just google any of the medical reports.

No one who actually watched Cutler play for the Bears and saw the beating he took, week-in and week out, would be able to even imagine he just decided not to play in the biggest game of his life. Just didn't care! But then plays with cracked ribs when we are running out the string of 4-12 seasons where he is taking more sacks than anyone else in the league?

Makes total sense.

Whatever his myriad flaws, Jay Cutler was not a quitter. He was tough as hell.

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>>
>>They tried though, that's why they ran Steve Smith out of
>town
>>WITH CAMS BLESSING and started drafting slow-footed
>basketball
>>players at wideout. Benjamin and Funchess were high picks.
>
>They also went 15-1 after they got rid of Steve Smith. 2 big
>ego's and if you watched Cam play with Steve it was obvious he
>was over compensating and trying to force throws to Steve. I
>wasn't a fan of how it went down but you can't act like it was
>a bad move.

Okay, so you agree they are tailoring things for Cam. That was the organizational goal.

>
>>
>>He has consistently had a great receiving tight end in Greg
>>Olsen, who the dumbass Bears traded in his prime to Carolina
>>for a bag of dildos. Cutler got to work with Hester and
>Johnny
>>Knox, and he got fried.
>
>and Olsen has the stats to prove it. But you ain't winning a
>championship with just a TE as your best/most dependable
>weapon.

I think that is debatable in today's NFL. Big time.

And there are still arguments to be made for the Patriots, the 2000 Ravens, Dwight Clark 49ers

>>
>>They got him Ted Ginn, then got rid of him. Then people
>crying
>>about Ginn eating Panthers lunch in playoffs. I'm laughing!
>
>and they fired the GM. Tedd Ginn had his best years in
>Carolina IMO. Never should have got rid of him. That's pretty
>much the point folks are making about not keeping weapons for
>Cam.

They got Ginn FOR him, then decided they didn't like his iffy hands, but that's who Ginn is. He is also old, and as then went to the draft to get young speed that could be used in more ways.

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>>
>>Now they tried to add a bunch of speed using precious
>capital
>>on McCaffrey and Curtis Samuel last year. Everyone applauded
>>this at the time.
>
>McCaffrey is straight. Samuel is ass tho... it happens,
>sometimes draft picks don't develop as quick as you want.

You know Samuel is ass already? How?

Also, none of this negates the fact that they went and got him FOR Cam Newton. Everything about this offense has been built with Cam in mind, albeit by two different GMs.

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>>>calling QB runs late in a game where he can barely get off
>>>his knee after calling the play in the huddle.
>>
>>He says he wants to keep running designed runs.
>>
>>Not surprising, he seems like a dummy.
>>
>>
>This sounds like hate

I am a hater so that makes sense. But I really do think you have to be a dummy to think that you are going to have a productive career at QB in the NFL when you are doing this many designed runs.

The spread is here to stay but this still isn't college. I don't care how big you are, those hits add up, and then everyone says you are washed. Culpepper was big, look how he ended up.

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>>>
>>>Giving him weapons like Devin Funchess (who'd make a good
>>4th
>>>WR)
>>
>>Wow…I'm on record from before he got drafted saying I
>>thought Funchess was a glorified tight end but 4th wide
>>receiver? LOL you doing a lot here. Funchess is exactly what
>>he was advertised as, and what they thought Cam needed;
>Catch
>>radius and physicality.
>>
>> and Jonathan Stewart, a guy 4 years past his prime.
>>>
>>
>>Stewart aint the problem. He is not even the starting
>running
>>back. And they have Whitaker and Tolbert. They got every
>type
>>of back you could want. It's RB by committee by design. It's
>>either that, or get Zeke Elliott. Like most teams, they
>don't
>>have Zeke. Their running back room is relatively strong
>>compared to rest of the league. A swiss army knife in
>>McCaffrey, two veteran power backs in Tolbert and Stewart, a
>>solid do-it-all guy in Whitaker.
>
>Stewart is still the primary back fam. Hopefully they make
>moves cause dude is kinda slow.

Stewart got something like 60% of the carries, looking at the numbers and discounting Cam's designed runs. He did okay. not great but hey, McCaffrey coulda done more too, he got 3.6 a carry.

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>>
>>>Imagine if Cam's weapons were half as good as Matt Ryan's.
>>
>>Who made them trade Benjamin? Face it, they put every type
>of
>>player around Cam and he still can't consistently make it
>>happen. He overrated.
>
>You think Cam made them trade Benjamin? Cam had nothing but
>praise for Benjamin the week before when he caught the game
>winner or sealed the game with a late catch. I think that was
>another WTF move by the GM but it's actually a good move in
>the long run. They need speed.
>
>Cam is overrated? Nah.. this sounds like hate.
>

He is overrated. His accuracy comes and goes (he can throw a laser and then miss a barn door on consecutive plays}, his ability to read the defense is nothing amazing, and he stays throwing the ball high so you gotta draft slow giraffe ass players. And the way he insists on playing, he is probably going to end up breaking down physically sooner than later.