this is embiid's first full season and simmons' first season. the cavs sucked for multiple years after kyrie hit the L. this is worse than your houston thread (which is monumentally bad). i should thank you because the most likely course with a dumbass thread like this is that they win a series this year (maybe two, we'll see), get bron and win a ring just to blow up any "NOPE, STANDARDS!" bullshit you are pushing here. btw the celtics are going fucking nowhere this year in the playoffs, so there's that.