well, i just checked the standings. it's not true. they still sorry.

oh well.

sooner or later, potential is just pretendtial.

those three problems are all related. when embiid is not on the floor, they are not a competitive team and with both him and simmons sitting they are terrible. mcconnell tries to pull his weight and i respect his hustle but he is not a good player. redick is not entirely one-dimensional but pretty close, if his shot is off what he gives you in other areas won't really help you win. these are their guys. bayless is junk, that was a junk signing from minute 1. you can't win much with weak guard play. simmons is the only decent guard they have and they have a some gap-pluggers (covington, saric, holmes) who are adequate in their roles. if fultz pans out, they are in great shape long-term. if embiid can stay healthy, they can finish .500 this year. this thread is just factless, agenda-based bullshit.

TJ has been phenomenal doing all he can, but not having a 3rd facilitator has been KILLING.

And Bayless being one of our top 3 shooting guards, man...

(and that's shooting a way higher percentage of mid-range jumpers/3s)

(also scored the same number of points as Simmons on the season on 100 fewer shot attempts)

... TATUM FOR ROY

*darts out of post dodging tomatoes/cheese steaks*

Mitchell so not sure why you expect anyone to take your opinions remotely serious when it involves a Duke agenda.

Tatum is absolutely great at what he does, but he's not asked to do all things that Simmons does. Also, Simmons has plenty of time to develop into an elite player. His ceiling is higher. And while he has a glaring weakness, he's still highly productive and impacting the game in a variety of ways.

nm

tatum don't HAVE to do all the padding BS that don't translate into a winning record shit simmons does.

tatum is an efficient and highly-skilled scorer and potentially an all-D guy, something bulldog head and simmons are not.

just recognize and stop looking for things to say.

First it was Kennard was way better than Mitchell.

Then it was, "well, anyone can put up #'s if given the green light he's given."

Then it was, "well, he's a basic combo guard that will never put up 20 points in a game in the NBA."

Now, it's just pretend you never said anything and compare Mitchell to Tatum and not the guy you said would be much better who also happened to be drafted 1 spot ahead of Mitchell.

>First it was Kennard was way better than Mitchell.

he is. and? kennard's last performance was a sign of things to come and his skill level, not an aberration. you just setting up to get walked down when your guy tops out as bledsoe II. but quinn is a great coach, so you might get lucky.


>Then it was, "well, anyone can put up #'s if given the green
>light he's given."

it's true. anyone from rodney stuckey to monta.


>Then it was, "well, he's a basic combo guard that will never
>put up 20 points in a game in the NBA."

he not at 20.

>Now, it's just pretend you never said anything and compare
>Mitchell to Tatum and not the guy you said would be much
>better who also happened to be drafted 1 spot ahead of
>Mitchell.

YOU made them about mitchell and tatum over a summer league game.

a summer league game.

>Mitchell so not sure why you expect anyone to take your
>opinions remotely serious when it involves a Duke agenda.

I liked Kennard more coming into the draft, as did many. Mitchell is having a better season. I said it just now if I haven’t before. Is that a comment no one should take serious too?

>Tatum is absolutely great at what he does, but he's not asked
>to do all things that Simmons does.

I agree. (Kennard is not asked to do the things Mitchell is asked to do either. Wouldn’t you agree? Or is that just my Duke bias making me wrong for thinking that’s true?)

Also, Simmons has plenty
>of time to develop into an elite player.

I agree.

His ceiling is
>higher.

I agree.

And while he has a glaring weakness, he's still highly
>productive and impacting the game in a variety of ways.

I agree. Should all of your comments that I never disagreed with be discounted because I agree with them?

expectations went thru the roof.

2 weeks ago i saw some talking head saying that other than cleveland, philly could beat anyone in the east in a playoff series.

last night, barkley said that if they miss the playoffs this would be a "disastrous" season for them. disastrous!

when the ringer ranked their top 25 last month, i think they had simmons and embiid both in the top 12.

like, niggas REALLY came off the top rope with the philly hype this year.

this is the nba. you can't skip steps. they won 28 games last year. if they get to 35 or 40 wins, simmons goes RotY, they get 60 healthy games out of embiid, and fultz shows anything at all whenever he gets on the court, then they've had a perfectly fine season. their train's running on schedule imo.

very disappointing

IRT Simmons, teams are giving him the Tony Allen treatment, playing off of him outside the paint and daring him to shoot

Embiid gon Embiid though, very happy with him this year

still looks to be running at about 80%, but his face up/perimeter game, eurostep, defense...very very impressive

some things to mention

they've had the hardest schedule to date

Embiid still in and out of the lineup

still don't see an identity on O or D, side eye to Brett Brown

Fultz is going to play soon...

...so this could turn into another Basa diarrhea post quickly

but yes, a team relying on a rookie and 2nd year player as their primary producers are not setting the league on fire

thanks for pointing it out

really?

i'd rather a "harder" schedule than 5 more games in the same amount of time.

plus, strength of schedule is in part affected by the team's quality--good teams have worse SoS because they can't play themselves. So, for example, the two games the Cs and 76ers played hurt the Cs' SoS because the sixers aren't good but helped the sixers because the Cs are good. That's about 8% of the sixers' current schedule. that matters for these numbers.

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+ as expected with a young team, they're losing close games

through 34 games they've been outscored by a total of 37 points

SOS is one thing I mentioned among a few things

when take them into consideration

and have a 15-19 result, is it time to jump out the window?

and it's a pathetic one.

embiid is a much better one. 1-7 without him = 14-12 with him.

but were those "hard" games on the schedule??!?!?!

also, losing close games? they're right at their expected win/loss. they should be about 4 games under .500 if they've been outscored by <40 points. WTF type of plea is that?


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mentioning

We're not chasing BOS or GSW

As we get into some easier stretches and hopefully the other issues get addressed, I still do expect us to be in the offs this year

It sounds like you disagree with the premise of the OP

Care to discuss?

how different is it, really?

also, you are competing with BOS and GSW. It ain't about being a mediocre playoff team, it was about being a championship level squad. y'all aren't. /story (for this year and almost definitely next year too).

the team is joel embiid, a potentially amazing but extremely flawed Ben Simmons and then some average NBA dudes and some shouldn't see the court dudes. it's meh. like its record, it's average at best. could be good real soon, but we've seen that before.

maybe next year. then again, next year the Cs will be even better than this year's version, so...

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FOH

Is there any precedent for a team going from 28Ws to a chip in 1 year?

Maybe the year Robinson sat out for SAN?

Last time, the schedule was 1 of a few issues I raised

You don't believe it's a valid problem for any NBA team, got it

Care to discuss any of the other issues I raised?

LOL@chip this year or L, that's not even quality trolling, it's just delusional.

but "we aren't competing with..." is bullshit. yeah, not this year but that's what the goal always is--is a team on the way to that level.

the process was blowing up a mediocre playoff squad so that it'd have a chance at a chip. that's the goal. anything less than chip-level squad is a fail of a process.

you are competing with boston and GSW in the upcoming few years. and people were talking pretty cocky about how it'd be faster than expected. man...it's slower than expected right today.

so when does the process end? when do we talk about THIS YEAR'S team instead of it's potential to get better in the "future"?
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best case scenario is the balls bounce right and they get two top 5 picks with their own and the lakers pick.

i guarantee they will party like shit and count that as a win. that's how wack they are.

you made this thread looking at the standings but that is BS. they dropped when embiid's back got fucked up. no one is claiming that they are much to look at beyond their two stars and maybe fultz in the future.

premise of your post: i thought the sixers had two young legends, how come they aren't winning with them? maybe they aren't that good because the team isn't winning with them.

reality: team lost their ass without them.

not hard to grasp you obtuse loser.

nm

either way we are partying off the near future. if the season ended right today, they'd be in the playoffs. that's fine but not a huge deal. if they miss and add a good player in the draft, also fine. you're making it out like someone had huge expectations for them. they were the worst team in the league last year so anything around .500 would be a big step forward.

TJ is a fine rotation player. Everybody else on the bench shouldn’t be in an nba rotation.

I’m getting real worried about Colangelo. All of the FAs he’s brought in are unplayable except for JJ, who was a good signing but is only here this year. He’s also left the team bereft of wings and ball handlers. Fultz should help there eventually, but the lack of wings are going to haunt this team.

Of course, none of this has anything to with Embiid or Simmons, so I’m gonna go ahead and bookmark yet another thread for when Simmons is averaging 20 ppg next season and the Sixers are the 4 seed.

and get him more on the block

Having him try to get to the hoop while also bringing the ball up the court is getting easy to defend

and when he swings it, it's not coming back to him

Still hopeful for this year

and Saric will then probably go to the bench

with Booker, we should have some assemblance of a bench

They have two good players, one potentially good player (and another who is injured) and two or three guys who are in their appropriate roles more or less.

Colangelo has been trash from day one. He bungled the asset management of Noel and Okafor. He signed Bayless inexplicably to a three-year deal, the only redeeming thing is that it will expire before Simmons' rookie contract is up. The Fultz deal is TBD but it didn't seem all that process-y, we'll see how the two guys pan out and what the pick turns into though. And, of course, he has done nothing good to redeem his fuckups or shown any kind of clear approach like even above-average GMs do. He seems to be from the Ernie Grunfeld school of mediocrity and capriciousness.

they count as good. not difference makers, but those dudes could both start on teams making deep runs. cleveland would kill to swap crowder for cov.

saric, yeah you're probably right that he's not quite there yet. he needs to be able to trigger the second team offense better before we say he's good, but he certainly seems on track. and tj is a damn good backup PG.

Not the same thing as a good player. Covington is kinda close and Saric may get there. The other guys are who they are.

Seems like semantics overall as our overall assessment is the same.

The team is not very deep and the most talented guys are still pretty wet behind the ears. This thread is just opportunism partying off the slump while Embiid has been out or playing at 70%. Of course the Tatum/Simmons comparison is also ridiculous. Simmons is the only guy who can make plays with the ball on his team and carries a huge load. Tatum can pick his spots and take advantage of space from a much better team with an established No. 1 star.

He’s in year 3 and firmly behind the corpse of Amir Johnson. You gotta give me more than that for me to care.

If Bolden is as good as he appears to be hopefully he becomes that #2 shift Holmes to #3 and we say thank you for your service to Amir

Hopefully this will kick around for the entirety of the season.

If either went to Duke this woulmd be a post where you throw a tantrum because everyone else isn't likewise screaming their praises to absurd levels like a North Korean talking about Great Leader while trying not to get sent to a labor camp.

Those who did like them sufficiently would get an infantile rant about how they're YOURS because you said you liked them FIRST.

Both are and will be dope and the Sixers will sit in the upper echelon of the east in three years time.

Assuming health, they will be soon. Might not be this year. Might not even be next year. But they'll be fine in the long term.

https://i.imgur.com/OtoW99P.gif

Fronting like they got next.

He is trash and can't get tick on yet another bottom-dweller. Will he be playing his trade in the Philippines whenever his eventual buyout comes through? The Burger King Whoppers might be in the market for a center.

I get that you're being daft on purpose but it's not as fun as some of the other times.

no excuses.

They were two games above .500 when Embiid went down if I remember correctly.

1-7 without Embiid

15-12 with him.

So they have been steady with their two stars, an above .500 team from being the worst in the league last year. The only reason he could make this dumb thread is that Embiid had a back issue, yet that undermines the premise that "OH I THOUGHT THEY HAD TWO YOUNG LEGENDS" because they didn't have the better one of the two.

They still have a pretty solid chance at the playoffs but obviously they don't have the supporting cast to win without these guys.

They don't have 2 stars. And they are indeed sorry.

When embiid is on the court, this team plays .600 ball.

As for Simmons, he isn’t a star yet, because he’s a rookie and rookie’s aren’t stars.

now he is getting fried for not being lebron yet.

pretty funny that at the height of the flames you ran like a bitch and stay partying off a perfect storm in which he was the second fiddle. you think it's over. it's not. boston will define him. the sixers are fine, thanks for your concern.

i ain't even giving out rookie year honeymoons anymore. niggas better produce like kyrie did...out the box. or they some shit.

i know it's not over. kinda the point of why i'm heated about the situation. it's never over.

so it's never gonna be over for any young player who gets cysed. never again. they better all work miracles with absolute scrubs in the starting lineup.

*sigh* glad ky got that ring and iconic title winner tho. some guys will only have empty stats, tweets and fake beef.

and nigga ass australian accents and broke jumpers.

Simmons is the favorite to win ROY right now.

So, uh, WTF are you talking about?

i seriousy doubt it. so they some shit and not worth cysing and can be justifiably crticized for their flaws. especially those pesky injuries.

is this the part where i act fake sad about the injuries and be like "oh, man...what could be if not for the injuries"? and then throw in a lil sentimentally inconsistent shot like "can't trust him to stay healthy...he just brittle"?

because i COULD do that.

seems like a pretty ridiculous standard that even lebron and d wade didn't meet. if we are going that route (and accepting second fiddles) than kyrie is a failure because he didn't measure up to kobe being a champion at 21.

they gotta fall on that Kyrie sword if either of those dudes aint the best player on the best team in the east by age 25

i'm not allowing young players on this board to get cysed in peace. i'm throwing shots at everybody. i'm poo poo'ing all this shit. these niggas wanna breakdance over embiid? cool...he don't be winning. not winning player. has nothing to do with the team around him. or the coach. he just not good enough. zingis not good enough either. towns only winning because he the second option now behind Leader Jimmy.

a price must be paid for coming on this board and having the nerve to suggest a 20 year-old kid should carry luke harangody and samardo samuels to the playoffs.

i ain't having no mercy.

Something that also plagued Kyrie early in his career, except he didn't win when healthy either.

Last year with Embiid playing OK minutes and in the lineup, they surged and got into the playoff picture briefly. Then he got hurt and they collapsed. This year they have been a bit above .500 with him all year, disaster without him. It's not that complicated.

man, that big shit-talking character better make the playoffs THIS year. shoulda made it last year, but...

and the cavs were "surging" into the playoffs until kyrie got hurt. nobody wanna hear that dumb shit.

"no excuses" is what i got on this board in the face of alonzo gee and WOAT drafts and no excuses it shall be.

fuck ya, you a dummy (c) Redd Foxx

how many games was kyrie winning as a rookie? a second year player? just shut the fuck up already

If they don't make the playoffs then woo Bron to come through with the stimulus package. They good and coming for a playoff spot so stop hating. Hate on a team that's supposed to be good but sucks like the Thunder.

I want him to stay in Cleveland but Bron owes no Cavs fan anything.

He easily mentors Simmons and this allows him to take a step back and age gracefully without having to play 38 minutes a game as his prime ends.

right now any ball dominant perimeter player makes Simmons irrelevant offensively. Clearly he needs to change that.

In a lot of ways it would free him up in terms of scoring and while he couldn't "create" as much, he could still showcase his passing skills in simple yet effective ways.

I wouldn't worry about "where they fit" when we are talking about two guys who can play four positions.

Take some of the ball handling duty off LeBen’s hands. Let him set up shop on the high post. Teams are saggging way off him when he comes up the floor


Of course fultz ain’t gonna solve the three point shooting needs. But it’s another primary ball handler

That in itself would be a huge relief.

In addition to facilitating his shot should be good enough to help create that spacing. Also when we need someone to go get buckets in the 4th those shots will be available for Markelle to go to work.

Donovan Mitchell who can facilitate? Yes please.

did anyone actually watch this guy play?

i don't think spacing is *huge* issue--saric, redick, covington and embiid all have range to varying extents--but it's just a matter of having a serviceable guard instead of running bayless at all and mcconnell as much. i would also like to see simmonds away from the 1 a bit, let him do an odom all-over-the-floor type, get experience at multiple positions.

After that early season stint where he changed his form because his shoulder hurt or something? Never seen anything like that.

but it happened, fortunately recent workout vids shows his recovery from it & working out with Muhmoud Abdul-Rauf may work out nicely for him when he starts hitting the ground running sometime this month

He’s a young point guard. Young point guards make their team worse. We need to be ready for that and not freak out when it happens. He’ll be at least as bad as bayless, whose minutes he’ll take, and worse than TJ. We’ll also probably get him in lineups that have been net positives for us, and he’ll make them worse.

All of this is completely fine and keeps us on schedule with The Process. This was always going to be a consolidation year. We’re spoiled from Embiid and Simmons, but rookies need to play through their mistakes. It will start to pay dividends next year.

Bayless makes Sergio Rodriguez look like Kyrie Irving. Bayless makes Gerald Henderson look like Klay Thompson.

Fultz will IMMEDIATELY be an upgrade from the barely 1-dimensional Bayless. Growing pains be damned.

Throwing out these hot takes will get you burned ye bitter one.

much appreciated.

being like 6-8 seed was their ceiling and it still is. if they miss and get a good pick, whooptydamndoo. you're acting like this is san antonio or cleveland. no win or bust here, no urgency for this season. even if you are applying the kyrie standard (which of course you cried about while wiping your bleeding anus for years on end, ultimately leaving the site), it's premature. neither of their stars has even played a full season of games yet.

make the playoffs in joel's 4th year. he's already failed the Kyrie Rule test.

i am sure you are familiar with how that works since you were cysing the fuck out of "ROY" Blake Griffin. bye.

you so mad. i cysed blake because i'd been cysing him since capel landed him. not my fault y'all were late to catch on.

NBA.com : YEARS IN NBA 1

Same reads for Dario who was also in same draft & didn't come over until last year also while playing pro over in Croatia. We can always have Elmo explain it to you in song if you still need help with this

also i don't recall you saying blake was in his second year when he won ROY (btw that agenda is flailing) so ...

His #SUXERS agenda versus his Fultz agenda that I'm tryna grab ALL his stock on. Wanna see what it do

i've already said that's what y'all would do.

while kyrie was healthy the cavs were still trash. embiid plays and we win most of our games. it was like that last year, it's definitely like that this year. the whole premise of this thread was dumb as fuck, very lazy.

Colangelo botched the returns on Noel and Oak but we still loaded with a ton of young talent and I'm not just talking about Joel and Ben.

Plus a ton of cap space next year. They should be a lead contender for Bron next year. But the Sixers are good either way.

Wit more minutes


At least team nerlens backed out the back exit

on OkaySports

Congrats on the all-star starter selection

PATCHES!!!

I'm furious, LOL

so, i ain't tripping either.

he no vaselined your dumb GM, too.

I think he may be the best singer of my generation

I mean, if you're selling your Fultz stock to go all in against Philly, I'll gladly take that off your hands while it's doing penny share numbers.

tatum had the chance to flourish tho, right?
i thought he was gonna eat... fans was listening to the game in the car onthe way home #leavingearly #beatthetraffic

Gotta pick one

but all this poplockin from 6ers fans since november don't get to stand on a fuckin early exit. they talked like they were the future and they not.

The other part of it is us going through the toughest schedule in the NBA out the first 41 games with health AND we still got Fultz whose shot is looking -better- going up to his shooting sessions yesterday.

Thus WHEN Fultz comes back to a team that's > .500 with a all-star big & ROY, to show off a hint at his potential that YOU gassed up, how are we NOT the future?

five straight and looking good doing it. we got the young legends and we are the future. boston better get it in before lebron gets his shit together and we have an actual roster around those two. too bad they are not championship-caliber.

we been through the alarm-sounding with boston 3 times already this season. y'all wish too hard on kyrie's failures. prolly why he keeps shining. boston set up to eat heavy in the next 18 months, while embiid knees bout to be on the other side of 25 very soon.

they gon get very hot. that ain't wishing. that's just facts.

Going from where we were to even the six seed is a huge improvement, now to go the five, four or potentially three there is no one who can cry about that, not even your black skip bayless ass.

this is embiid's first full season and simmons' first season. the cavs sucked for multiple years after kyrie hit the L. this is worse than your houston thread (which is monumentally bad). i should thank you because the most likely course with a dumbass thread like this is that they win a series this year (maybe two, we'll see), get bron and win a ring just to blow up any "NOPE, STANDARDS!" bullshit you are pushing here. btw the celtics are going fucking nowhere this year in the playoffs, so there's that.

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easiest remaining sked in the conference.

http://www.playoffstatus.com/nba/easternsosrg.html#sflx

save your shit to drafts, homie.

like how, on a floor with all the best players and al horford, embiid was the only guy in lebron's class, even though he was at 1/3 effort for all but the last 5 minutes.

the greek freak was basically winking at girls in the stands all game

so you can write a bullshit, wrong version of it to make yourself feel better about it.
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Folks missed that they had the toughest schedule going into Dec/January.

Long as "load management" is minimized, overall roster health is intact & Simmons stay on the attack the 4th seed could def be a thing.

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If you put the two rosters together the Sixers would have the best player but Indy is a lot deeper team. If Philly didn't lose Embiid for 10 games or so they'd be comfortably ahead but they lean heavily on one guy. Indy has a nice mix up front and Dipo showing he is by far the best player in his class. Always been a fan of McMillan, evident he'd be a good coach when he was a player. He wasn't doing it on athletic ability. I felt worse for him than anyone that the Portland thing blew up because of injuries, and worse yet it turned into a setback in his career for whatever reason. I am glad to see him thriving now, last year they underachieved and this year he has gotten a younger, deeper team to play ball that is sound and also fun to watch.

Him and Casey are pretty clearly doing the most with least
this season.

Weirdly, neither come up in elite discussions.

Last I saw he was fifth in terms of favorites in Vegas to win the award and Casey was second. I would probably give the award to Quin Snyder. Doc Rivers has done an excellent job this year just to keep the team afloat. Pop is always a guy to consider. I guess Stevens was the favorite, I like him a lot but I don't get how he should be ahead of Casey, Snyder, McMillan and Pop really. D'Antoni will get votes again but I don't think he should win the award.

Stevens' team is *loaded* with current All-Stars (2)
and guys who might be all-stars next year (2 more,
at least)

McMillan? Oladipo was *nothing* in OKC...*nobody* thought
you had an Alpha dog on a *good* team with him. Nate has
turned that team into a solid-good team, almost *all* on
fundamentals and teaching. It's coaching 101.

>Last I saw he was fifth in terms of favorites in Vegas to win
>the award and Casey was second. I would probably give the
>award to Quin Snyder. Doc Rivers has done an excellent job
>this year just to keep the team afloat. Pop is always a guy to
>consider. I guess Stevens was the favorite, I like him a lot
>but I don't get how he should be ahead of Casey, Snyder,
>McMillan and Pop really. D'Antoni will get votes again but I
>don't think he should win the award.

Cs are staying afloat with all their top guys down. Stevens has done a great job and has quickly established himself as an elite coach, much like Doc Rivers did in the early part of his career. You're a guy who poo-pooed Pop so really I am not sure why anyone cares wtf you think

and both have been mentioned in every single COTY column and podcast that i've read/heard in the last 2 months.

But the only reason Casey is getting mentioned at all is because
the Celts cooled off considerably. It was Stevens' award.

But Casey wasn't doing a worse job than Stevens at any point
this season. Casey has been the best, by miles, since
forever.

The other choice is Brett Brown. Funny how Sam Mitchell
didn't get to see the Minnesota project through, but Brett
Brown did.

And then there's Pringles. Lolz.

But continue defending white folks, Dula. It's your schtick.

I bet you got an excuse for that

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they have all had a lot of injuries and of course in the case of Rivers and Snyder they had key players leave before the season also.

The main reason Rivers isn't getting any push is because the Clippers will narrowly miss the playoffs. He has done an excellent job though

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i mean you might have me mistaken for someone else that capes for thibs.

Keep pretending like you don't know why Casey doesn't elicit enthusiasm for COTY

We know how this movie ends

It's Stevens BTW

w/o their 2nd best player the entire season and their best player missing significant time

BOS is an entire 3 games behind TOR

Do you think Casey could coach TOR to 2nd place w/o Lowry and Derozan...?

But yes...they're black

Horford is a multi-year all-star

And Jalen Brown was a finalist to replace John Wall
in the All-Star game this year

AND the Celtcs lineup is loaded with other talent.

What draft pick was Lowry? And Derozan was a lower
pick than Kyrie, Jalen Brown, Tatum.

The notion that the Celtics are not loaded with talent
is PURE comedy. Team is LOADED>

>But yes...they're black

Right, which is why *both* were prematurely fired from
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Bwahahahaha (c) O_E

You hedging like a MFer.

I hope we somehow get Boston vs. Philly in the ECF, I'd be happy as a goddamn clam. It'd be a fun-ass series, and I'd get to watch some of my favorite Dukies ever battle it out for a chance to play in the Finals.

Also, insert pro-Hinkie comment here. He sacrificed himself for Philly's wins. They should have Hinkie's face on votive candles in Philly.

(But I *do* think having vet leadership helps, lol.)

this the future man

i will never understand the panty-bunching when i pull the same foul, ignoble bullshit y'all pull.

shells took a shot at kyrie with a petty post. cool. i'm saying, no matter what philly does, them two niggas still ain't much because, well, we hate on everybody.

i've tried for years to make it cool to step off after titles are won, but...y'all gon y'all around here.

he's literally 8 for his last 3 billion.

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lonzo not as successful at the line.

i'll give up on lonzo being a trash shooter once he hits 35% from three and 65% from the line.

until then we can move on.

Tried to tell cats to calm down and be patient...he wasn't going through some voodoo, mysticism shit. There's a basis for it.

But he looked like a perfectly normal highly drafted young prospect. Right now, that’s an unequivocal win

a couple really nice dimes. missed some finishes at the rim.

just being out there is a huge W tho.

The type of circus and day to day to microscope he has had to go through is a joke. The most telling part about him imo is how he's handled everything.

it was literally so much more than could have been realistically expected.
i can't make any projections on exactly how good he will be - but one of the things we have sorely been missing over this year is a guy who can get his own shot. the fact that he was ready after really, missing this entire season - it's pretty amazing.

if he turned the ball over, missed most of his shots and looked like a puppy with his tail between his legs in this situation i would've been understanding, and still happy that he stepped up and put himself out there. but nah, he legitimately made us better.

ku fucking dos.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/3/27/17167456/markelle-fultz-return-sixers-analysis

absolutely no shade to lonzo, taytum, fox, and the rest of his draft class, but fultz last night felt different than those guys. more explosive. more god-given talent. obviously he has a long way to go to even be mentioned in the same breath as taytum, but it was crystal clear last night why he was the consensus #1.

can i see him shaking off the rust and getting his shot where it needs to be this season? not really. but we knew dude was an athlete and a skilled player. just a matter of getting his body right and finding rhythm at this level. the speed of the pro game isn't a problem for him, but that's hardly the only adjustment a young player has to make

first things i noticed seeing him in person: simmons gallops down the court with the ball, but MF glides, like grant hill or scottie pippen. his arms are long af too. it was amazing for him to not have played all year and come in without taking anything away from their already established rotation while adding the threat of iso scoring. he doesnt look like he did in college, but he's almost there. p&r's with him and embiid are crazy

my prediction is that he hits a three in their next game vs the knicks

one of the sporting events i'm most sad i missed in person in recent memory.

from the first time he checked in, the crowd was going nuts. it felt like a college game how loud they/we were for him, even after he kept getting his shot blocked. it felt like he was determined to make everybody there proud, and i'm glad to have been a part of what hopefully will be a great redemption story.

We coming for dat azz, Cleveland!

I'm actually quite happy with our current roster as well as our financial situation, despite the injury plague, so I'm good with Philly getting two cornerstones.

The fact that I like both Embiid and Ben make it hard to root against Philly.

Hopefully we get a new age Stania War on the board but it kind if blows that I like these guys.

Anyhow...congrats. the rising up phase is always fun.

Let's go 6ers

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It’s way too early for Giannis. The easy choice is Kyrie and John Wall, but that’s too easy, since he’s already better than both guys. Maybe Russ?

you guys enjoy. I'll swing back around when it's my turn and you remind me of how young he is.

Cheer up. Kyrie’s injury means you can live in denial for another year. Hopefully we’ll settle this next postseason.

I hate that it’s come to this shells. I SHOULD be happy for you. I didn’t even have an agenda against the sixers. But if you dudes really thought you was gon shit on Jah for 18 months, NOW throw dry shots about Kyrie, a made guy no matter how y’all try to flip it, then I’m just gonna treat you niggas like bulls fans.

That didn’t end well and I still got mad bitches like isaaa after me. This won’t end well either. Something gon happen and I’m gonna be the bad guy if I even show up in the thread where y’all lamenting that misfortunate thing that happened.

not sure if you're such a pussy liberal that you thought the ol' crackhead default would be offensive post-obama.

OR...

you have such poor comedic instincts that you couldn't mine the zeitgeist for a funnier drug, so you landed on the one that was the subject of a landmark TV show and thus spawned thousands of hack jokes about meth heads.

either way, i need you to understand niggas don't do meth.

and further inland? sheeeeit. it's practically in the drinking water.

could i have dropped a 2cb or dmt reference? sure, but they didn't fit, neither did crack really. you are too far gone for just being a base head. btw jah still trash AF.

Kyrie is made. If he stays healthy, he’s going to the hall of fame.

And Ben Simmons is already better than him. He’s much better than him at literally every aspect of basketball except scoring already, and he’s a rookie, and Kyrie really isn’t *that* great a scorer. By this time next year, this debate is over and Ben can concertante on the guy he should be chasing, which is Giannis.

Edit: lmao, basketball reference has fat lever as his fourth best statistical comp for the first six years of his career. If that ain’t perfect.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html

can you please let the sixers do something first? one step at a time.

edit: ben over kyrie "already"...um, i'm not wasting kyrie on your soon to be 22 year-old "rookie"

shit, i'll put cam or RJ on that nigga before i even entertain the idea of you tryna get me to fret about some brick shootin xxl rondo muhfucka who you only cysing over kyrie because kyrie is out right now.

could be a make 'em mad ploy or you could be so starved to cyse the sixers you believe it. *shrug*

and kyrie isn't that great of a scorer...except he is. and unlike the vast majority of elite guards, he can do it efficiently. so, ya'll can icky shuffle and poplock and dame and russ and their lil sub-45 horseshit, but i know why they fold when it matters...they don't have the arsenal.

as far as ben over kyrie already, not yet but it's an eventuality. shells was sucking up to kyrie this time last year. i've been pretty consistent on him, stud player but not good enough to be the no. 1 guy on a title team. not a big deal, few players are.

he's also perpetually overrated by the general public and underrated by the analytics community. that's the way for guys who offer scoring/shot creation and nothing else. how i sound about kyrie usually depends on who's talking.

especially when they're playing in a system that got isaiah damn thomas to 29 per last season. he ain't even peak melo, let alone true elite dudes like steph and KD.

and spare me the bullshit about setting up his teammates until he can do 6 assists per on a good team. kyrie's a dude who, when put in the right offensive system with good talent around him, can be an A- first scorer. that's all he's ever shown and that's all he'll ever be.

shit, his fourth best player comp on basketball reference is...the one and only fat lever. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html . by this time next year only sneakerheads and celtic and duke fans will even think it's a debate.

use basketball reference to find out who the youngest top scorer (career ppg) in the finals.

again, i can't worry about y'all cysing dudes who can't score as efficiently as kyrie.

and "scorer" implies SKILL not VOLUME. SMH.

no one cares about simmons, bro. not even an all-star yet. can't even hit 60 at the line. *shrug*

it really is gonna be terrible watching this eagles-induced confidence you're projecting go up in flames. because i've never had to be the one shitting on you when your philly sports agendas flopped. i ignored them threads because they were none of my business.

our paths have crossed now. and you are insisting on getting me to engage at my very worst. full disclosure: i blocked you to keep me from saying something fucked up when you kept throwing shots, not because i "coudln't take it" or was "too sensitive." now? we cool but i don't know how far i can go with you or the rest of these dudes, so i can't really laugh and point over fucked up shit like i i've been known to do IRL. now? i'm kinda past caring. you niggas been dry-partying or outright bojangling about kyrie's injuries since 2011 and i've held my keystrokes on soooooo many dudes. them days coming to an end.

it's all good when he's got bron to do the consistent lifting every night or brad stephens running the best scheme in the league. he can A minus his way through life, and people like you can pretend he's even on dame's level.

as for the rest, i would have thought it's quite obvious by now that I no longer give a fuck what you think. i'm in this thread because you said something really dumb about the sixers, and now I can party on your perpetually hurt feelings.

>shit, his fourth best player comp on basketball reference
>is...the one and only fat lever.
>https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html

>I hate that it’s come to this shells. I SHOULD be happy
>for you. I didn’t even have an agenda against the sixers.
>But if you dudes really thought you was gon shit on Jah for 18
>months, NOW throw dry shots about Kyrie, a made guy no matter
>how y’all try to flip it, then I’m just gonna treat you
>niggas like bulls fans.
>
>That didn’t end well and I still got mad bitches like isaaa
>after me. This won’t end well either. Something gon happen
>and I’m gonna be the bad guy if I even show up in the thread
>where y’all lamenting that misfortunate thing that
>happened.

It’s like YALL forget everything before and since. What Kyrie could and couldn’t do. How he’d fold under pressure. Welp, just so happens he’s one of the top pressure players on earth.

Guess we’ll see how Simmons and Embiid do.

I guess.

By the way, not tryna start shit, just a question...why you always be in shit you have no stake in just to fuck with me? You aggy about something?

I honestly just post at work or while kinda drunk or high. This felt like a fun argument to jump into as I saw similarities from your Kyrie championing days and the baby Sixers now. No more and no less. I also have nothing to root for now, and it’s fun to talk shit.

and Flyers post when you get a chance...appreciate it

L.

obviously we're more talented, even without embiid. but if there's a coach and a roster than can make the playoffs much different from the regular season for ben, it's spo and that army of long armed wings.

sixers in 6

Whiteside is so good when he's not being an ass. He and Joel is gonna be a fun matchup.

werd.

w/o a jumper too

16 in a row

longest streak in franchise history

longest streak ever heading into the playoffs

52Ws

3rd seed

Proud of this group

...and we still have work to do...

Since you made it, they went 37-12. Nice work!

Stevens on that genius shit, Rozier was on some DGAF shit for a couple games (Game 7 vs MIL Game 1 vs PHI), Horford stepped up and Tatum has been incredibly steady, best player on the floor at times and the most consistent most of the time.

But I mean the way Philly finished the first half of Game 2 and the way they stuck their own dicks in their ass at almost every critical moment today was incredible. I don't even think you can blame the coaching or game plan or any shit like that. The basic shit they were fucking up would be shouldered more by their AAU coaches if anything. You don't pull the ball out to kill clock up one with under 24 seconds left? OK, that's a rookie. You THROW THE FUCKING BALL AT A GUY'S BACK IN THE CENTER OF FOUR OTHER PLAYERS IN NO POSITION TO DO ANYTHING? Horrible. And obviously that is just the shortest of short lists.

Now, that said, just being in this position is WAY beyond expectations and maybe this is just some shit they had to go through. But WOW, I mean had this happened in Round 1 maybe I'd have been less perplexed but this isn't their first playoff series or anything. Again full credit to Boston, they have played *great* sometimes and been a much steadier, smarter team at all times. But Philly could easily be up 2-1 now if they had even a little goddamn sense.

...who don't actually watch the games, i'm sure of it

you dont build technique in games and they dont need two guys on the court with <8 ft range

is what it is

no reason to think he can do much more tho

he simply wasn't ready for the intensity, and it would only be worse against boston. given that his confidence is a huge issue, throwing him to the wolves is a terrible idea.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2635515&mesg_id=2635515&page=#2650494

But they just narrowly avoided getting swept in the second round of the playoffs to a team missing two of their three best veteran players.

...in their 1st and/or 2nd seasons...?

I've got Magic...obviously...I'll throw Tatum and Mitchell in here...but

I'm not coming up with much else

Help me out here

Incredible season for the 6ers

Actually brought me back onboard this year

Tip of the cap to BOS

Really excited for the future of this rivalry

I think the animosity from fans and critics is based on the idea that the East is wide open...

...but the 2 teams that were supposed to be there, are...

<shrug>

No shame in being a top 8 team the 1st year playing together

But plenty of work to do...PLENTY

Shouts to my team.

with two undrafted FAs and two guys claimed off waivers in the 8 man playoff rotation.

people better get their laughs in now. it's going to get so much worse for them.

I'll grant tatum and kyrie this: they have earned the right that, when the history of The Process is written, they will be called a significant roadblock this team overcame.

and those two aren't even good enough. you only yapping because you think bron gon save you.

here's the thing: i ain't even scared of his ass.

the celtics are BETTER. they can defend and shoot. CRY about it.

you dont have 2 all stars waiting to join them

didnt anyone ever tell you not to thrash around in quicksand?

i'm starting to think he might grab cp3 and playoff p and head for LA. be a movie mogul and such.

closing with horford/brown/tatum/hayward/kyrie? that's tough, not gonna lie. i never said boston are scrubs, or that it would be overnight.

but some of y'all seem to be laboring under the illusion that the celtics have anyone who's going to be half as good as peak embiid or peak simmons. just make sure you stick around the boards long enough for me to say "i told you so."

also, i ain't forgot about that Thibodeau shit

you lost with 2 #1 overall picks, just like they did

lose with 3 next year.....oooooooooh

Sixers need to focus on getting Fultz on board.

But that would require player development. And it doesn't seem like the Sixers are into that.

But please explain how two players in their first full seasons might be in their peaks?

Going forward obviously Boston is going to be a problem and Colangelo's dumb ass magnified the problem barring some big turnaround from Fultz. I will really shit if the Lakers move up in the lotto and Boston gets that pick.

But as far as those two guys, uhhhh, no, tons of maturity both physical and emotional for both guys ahead. Embiid was nowhere near 100% in the playoffs and Simmons is raw AF, which you know damn well.

Joel is 24 with injury concerns.

And Ben needs a jumper. And might be mentally frail.

We also don't know how much they'll get better if they do get better.

The Sixers were favored in THIS series but fell short to a Celts team without its 2 best players. You should still be optimistic about the future of course, but you haven't earned all this cockiness, let alone when you're just projecting how they'll look in 2 seasons' time. Also you're acting like the Celts' core is going to stay at the same level as Embiid and Simmons get better and better. It's laughable.

brown may "only" end up being an igoudala-type borderline all star, but tatum certainly seems like a lock for 4-5 all star games.

but player development generally follows well established precedents. we can take what a player is today, run a bunch of stats on it, and determine his career trajectory based on what similar players have done in the past.

well, ben simmons just had one of the 10-15 best rookie seasons ever.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23379710/who-best-rookie-season-ben-simmons-donovan-mitchell

and when embiid is on the court, he's already one of the 10-15 best players in the league. in his second year. http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM

both tatum and brown are going to be all stars. both simmons and embiid, assuming health, are going to finish in the top 5 of mvp voting, and probably more than oncr.

if he stays healthy, i think it's pretty reasonable to assume that playing more basketball will make him better, just like every young player.

and has already demonstrated that he gets significantly better with NBA experience. but he's the borderline case? when Embiid is a walking injury risk and Simmons still can't shoot past 8 feet?

got it.


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edit: and i mean all embiid discussion begins with an implicit "if he's healthy." glad i could make you mad enough to spell it out though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD6qtc2_AQA

but say more about how we should trust the process for another 2 years before judging it all.

Joel + Ben need to improve as much as Jaylen + Jayson and then some because Jaylen and Jayson also have a good coach and other good players on the team.

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>Joel + Ben need to improve as much as Jaylen + Jayson and then
>some because Jaylen and Jayson also have a good coach and
>other good players on the team.

CMON
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you think we playing chess, but i'm playing mad-making. Basaglia

>CMON
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>you think we playing chess, but i'm playing mad-making.
>Basaglia

...and I referenced both Tatum and Mitchell...

Got anything else?

Thanks for playing.

*checks notes*

three players fit your criteria THIS YEAR

(you forgot Jaylen)


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My gast is considerably flabbered.

i get it, this is all very, very new to you as a 76ers fan in the 21st century. it takes a while to get used to it.

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or BOS and Utah are sorry?

They got in, won a series convincingly over a veteran Miami team, then bought their own hype and got got.

This is Year One. Ben is a rookie PG. Name one rookie PG who won a series in his 1st year in the last 10 years. You can't. The last one was Wade in 2004. Simmons is special. And Embiid is special too.

Boston? Kyrie's knees are fried, sorry. And I'm not trusting Hayward getting back to where he was. Tito is a warrior and he won this series, but he old. Yeah, they got Tatum and Jaylen and Terry and they are looking good right now in Stevens system, but I don't buy their talent level being on par with the Sixers.

You can have the best coaching and chemistry all you want, LeBron just proved again that only players matter in the end. And I still take Joel, Ben and them over anybody in the league in 2 years.

re-sign terry, let kyrie walk, have huge cap space and young stars.

if his knees aren't fried, they've got decisions to make but also a 24 year old all-star proven performer and young stars.

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HE'S 26 NOT 24 HOLY FUCK NO
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you think we playing chess, but i'm playing mad-making. Basaglia

like the next round.

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