he is a good player. he hasn't grown as much as i might have expected but a very solid two-way player. i would say right now he is jockeying with jimmy butler, klay and guys like that for the second tier stars. that indy team had OK depth but it had a couple of effective but stiff bigs, a bottom third point guard, etc. PG was clearly their best player and they had some success. This past year they had a shit start and some injuries otherwise I think they would have been a middle seed.