Errybody hoopin in this one. Let's go.

Friday bump:

Toronto vs. New Orleans 6:00PM NBA TV

Brooklyn vs. Atlanta 8:00PM NBA TV

Houston vs. Denver 10:00PM NBA TV

Milwaukee vs. Cleveland 6:30PM ESPN2

L.A. Clippers vs. L.A. Lakers 8:30PM ESPN

Phoenix vs. Sacramento 10:30PM ESPN2

trumps summer league...

stop, man. this ain't that serious. you don't have to just be WRONG and expose yourself tryna get at me. i really don't care that much.

*smh*

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and 2 or 3 more that couldve been if zupac was in bball shape rn

Just saying.

He dealing tho

Gonna be fun to watch.

Getting him at 42 or whatever? I think he can be a solid contributor.

Lol

Its summer league but I love this kid already

Dude blows by everyone, every time out, and then puts up a brick.

with his shooting & playmaking, he's going to push Jr for minutes

Higher release, 1 motion up and out - much more fluid as a result

He's going to be a lot of fun to watch this year.

and ya ship the niggas that ain't serious.

Brice too.

I'm not a regular poster but I am the current agenda holder.

nm

Still rooting for Ball

Summer league niggas are trash except for BI

Like I can't remember someone who wasn't Kevin Martin who was successful with a shot that looked like that.

One SL game doesn't change that. For some reference, he also looked subpar during UCLA's pre-season games.

It's one thing to have unorthodox form and be a poor shooter, it's another to have an unorthodox yet effective jumper. There's are multiple examples of that and in Lonzo's case, when he shoots driving off his right hand he brings the ball up in a more typical path - if that makes you feel any better.

>There's are multiple examples of that and in Lonzo's case,
>when he shoots driving off his right hand he brings the ball
>up in a more typical path - if that makes you feel any better.


in college he had a very strong tendency to shoot while driving to his left and avoided shooting driving right, pretty clearly because of that slingshot sideways shooting motion. haven't watched any SL but don't know how he's gonna ameliorate that without making an adjustment to his shooting mechanics.

Regardless, I don't think he's comfortable shooting off his because of the slingshot like you said but I have seen him do it smoothly...it's going to be a matter of him gaining confidence in it and once opposition starts to sit on his left hand, he's a really smart kid who will realize that he needs to start using it more.

*logs off*

I've never seen so many missed shot highlights in my life.
Fuck ESPN

clearly he wasn't as committed to that fucked up fake larry bird behind-the-ear catapult horseshit release he had. this sped up one-motion release is gonna make him an 80+ FT shooter and 35% 3FG shooter in year two.

you know what that means? 18ppg in year two.

and i'm upping all that bullshit without mercy, so enjoy your fuckin summer, because winter is mine.

BI's confidence carrying over and bolstered by the work he has put in on his jumper - additionally, full effort defensively and being extremely vocal with the team.

Lonzo making the right pass, every single time....a little too unselfish bc he passed up some great paint looks after he got there but that's far easier to correct than tunnel vision. The recognition and quickness of his outlet pass is ridiculous. No problem with his shots, he has shown he can hit from NBA range and he will do so.

Thomas Bryant's effort matched his skill...up and down all night, crashing the boards, jumper looked very clean. On the other end of that, Zubac looked in terrible shape and it showed.

Kuzma's offensive skill-set is dope - great passer for his size, moves really well, and has extended his range. However, he most impressed me defensively - moved a lot better laterally than I thought.

Hart looked really nervous offensively and he was rushing his shot. Defensively, he can obviously play.

https://twitter.com/Lakeshowtalk/status/883514871656071168

Average ass pro he will be.

We're losing fricking recipes.

It's the same posts on repeat, pretty much year after year. Same goes for r/NBA as well.

?

Cal giving him NO minutes in under 19 ten USA. Everyone else getting 15-20. Really weird

http://usatodayhss.com/2017/the-romeo-langford-blog-back-in-action-prepping-to-bring-home-the-gold-and-more-john-calipari-kentucky-team-usa

I love this kid, beating/dominated g us by himself

but also not mad cuz I'm in Pamplona on my honeymoon.

time to defend the title.

Good - we already saw what we needed to see from him, clearly a class above anyone else on the floor with his confidence, vocal leadership, and altered jumper mechanics translating to an in-game situation.

Definitely liking what I've seen/heard so far.

SMH. dunno what you saw. you not even a pistons fan.

Zu looked he finally came down off his 1st night Vegas roll (forgot he's euro), Kuzma's jumper continues to impress but imo the biggest positive has been his defensive lateral movement, and Hart showed a lot more confidence tonight.

He took 3 steps after landing. Looks like he rolled it before he jumped.

I seen enough, so I'm straight on him still coming out there aaaaaanytime soon until football season.

Yeah, it's summer league.

To be clear, by "4-0" I'm just saying I think all these guys are players and I think the three "other" guys in this draft are going to put play their draft position.

Contributors on good teams. Guys who might get traded for someone down the road after endearing themselves to the Lakers fan base enough that we don't really want to part ways even if an established all star is the return.

More to the point, I tho k we landed guys who fit well as a unit.

-Kuzma is the new Nance. He's shown more offensive tools than expected and yeah, he's essentially a prototypical 3D guy.

-Hart will be a fantastic backup to Zo. His four year tenure shows and he's going to walk in as a leader.

-Bryant! Tonight wasn't his night. He's the one I'm watching because he adds some nice size and athleticism in addition to that burst of energy. He seems equally comfortable rolling or popping. He could develop into a nice defensive anchor who isn't an afterthought on offense.

Zo showed his ass tonight. That's exactly the guy we've been sold. Last night was overblown but tonight we saw the guy we've been marketed the past three months and if that's the guy we get going forward?

That'ss the perfect guy to bind these other pieces into a cohesive unit. All in alli think we just added some nice depth to this team and we're unquestionably better today than we were before the draft.

Impressed with Kuzma's shooting and Ball grabbing 11 boards...
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I see yall talking about Lonzo Ball and Kuzma and all the rest but other players need some love.

The promise this young man is showing is remarkable. I'm not sure if we're allowed to post full highlights but he was cooking out there.

Cavs need to sign him, Tavares, and hope Kay Felder keeps improving. Why did we sign Jose Calderon again?

Jayson Tatum out here justifying his draft selection killing it out there. De Aaron Fox looks great as well.

The only question is which one of these guys is on that CJ Mccollum? The dude that is going that bag if someone gives him a chance to play and show promise over a few years earning his spot in the league.

It's deep and pretty top heavy to me. I can easily see like 10 of the top 12-13 picks becoming stars down the road. Fultz was the consensus #1 guy, but I could easily see Tatum, Jackson, Fox, Smith Jr., Monk, etc. emerging as the best player of the class.

Can Buddy turn the corner this year??

Who is currently a THIRD YEAR NBA player that's...

...my goodness...

STRUGGLING in NBA Summer League.

The men that orchestrated THIS trade are in charge of our rebuild.

Lord help us.

>Who is currently a THIRD YEAR NBA player that's...
>
>...my goodness...
>
>STRUGGLING in NBA Summer League.
>
>The men that orchestrated THIS trade are in charge of our
>rebuild.
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>Lord help us.
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Lonzo Ball out Monday with groin injury, will miss matchup vs. De'Aaron Fox



Los Angeles Lakers rookie point guard Lonzo Ball will sit out Monday's Las Vegas Summer League game against the Kings with a groin injury, a source confirmed to ESPN's Ramona Shelburne.

The injury isn't considered serious but the Lakers are playing it safe with Ball, who was selected No. 2 overall in this year's draft.

"He's fine," the source told ESPN.

Ball has had the injury since last week, the source told ESPN.

The matchup with the Kings had been highly anticipated because it would pit Ball against fellow rookie De'Aaron Fox, who was selected No. 5 overall this year.

USA Today Sports first reported news that Ball would sit out Monday's game with the injury.



Lonzo Ball's groin injury isn't considered serious but the Lakers are playing it safe with their prized lottery pick by holding him out Monday night. Garrett Ellwood/NBAE/Getty Images

Fox got the best of Ball in the NCAA tournament, when he and the Kentucky Wildcats beat Ball's UCLA team 86-75.

Fox scored a career-high 39 points in that game, with four assists and three rebounds. Ball finished with 10 points, eight assists and four turnovers.

Kings fans were looking forward to Monday's matchup, and team management is hosting a free watch party inside Golden 1 Center.

Ball was looking to continue his momentum from Saturday when he compiled his first triple-double with the Lakers for 11 points, 11 rebounds and 11 assists in an 86-81 loss to Boston. That was a turnaround from his Lakers summer league debut the night before when he shot 2-for-15, including 1-for-11 from 3-point range, in an overtime loss to the Clippers.

Fox averaged 17.5 points, 4 assists and 4 steals in his first two games with the Kings in Las Vegas.

The Lakers will face the Kings without Ball and last year's second overall pick, Brandon Ingram. After he suffered a cramp toward the end of the Lakers' first game on Friday, the team opted to hold out Ingram from the remainder of summer league for precautionary reasons. Ball had said he wants to win, work on his shot more in summer league and develop chemistry with his teammates.

"My shot is off," Ball said on Saturday. "But everyone knows I will keep shooting. My confidence is there."

What does the 3rd one mean again?

Love it

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Nor was BI according to them and Zo mentioned that as well during an interview. As for Zo, now we know why (dealing with adductor aka groin issues, a back to back will certainly set those off).

Hart (sprained ankle) and Kuzma (cramping) are out as well. In the end, this is summer league yet lots of mad still roaming around today lmao. I personally love it especially since Lonzo himself clearly doesn't listen to any of the peanut gallery and tunes out all the noise.

Oh wait that pick goes to Boston. Keep praying for PG and Lebron.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/07/deaaron-fox-deleted-tweet-emoji-lonzo-ball-rematch-groin-injury-summer-league-nba-lakers-kings

And why is this off-brand ass poster so mad?

Is it because Fox got lit up by the summer league "who's that?" equivalent of joseph smurf?

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lol..

Caruso - 7-9 FGA's -18 points in 30 minutes

Fox - 4-6 FGA' s -12 points in 20 minutes

This is what consider being "lit up" now??

if you see Caruso's highlights in the game....an undrafted d-leaguer....

Caruso was torching Fox...


now what was that you were saying Lonzo being scared??

...you may not remember that Ball and Fox played each other twice last season... the first time was in Lexington Kentucky... you should look into that..

I'm a Laker fan.... and a speaker of truth about the NBA...


agendas are for people who really don't know what they're talking about

https://twitter.com/therealbradg/status/884525695702978560

Who?

he can hoop.

he's definitely one to watch. extremely smooth player. and he killing these cats off the hesi just like he been doing since h.s.


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

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I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad

Since he's not a Laker now I'm torn on wanting him to break out lol.

Otherwise, yeah... I'm with you on him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQdP33-3mcM

It's fun for *a* jab but let's not get carried away.

look...

75% of Laker hate nation don't even see or watch what they are speaking on...

People want to call Lonzo a bust after 1 summer league game.... come with perez Hilton level drama about him being afraid of a guy whom he's already beaten in front of thousands of Kentucky fans....

then Alex Caruso goes out and plays the way he played..

miss me man.... this jab is sticking loooong....

there would be a million articles about it lol

some Spurs fans are already saying we shouldn't have signed Patty to that new contract, god bless fans on the internet n/m

Sheesh. It's that difficult to acknowledge he had a good game or at least was great on defense?

i'll be making whole threads about mitchell being a basic ass big combo goomba guard who will never drop 20ppg in the league, make an all-star team, play in the olympics...none of that.

he tried to cyse his nobody ass guy by coming at tatum on some bullshit.

this is how these agendas start and them people try to pull their hands back like "i juss keeding"...nah, we in it now. that man tried to use tatum to cyse his ol' stocky ass pit bull built guard, because tatum was gettin shine in the media. that's all it was. he didn't even have the decency to put it in this thread, which is about SUMMER LEAGUE GAMES! he put it in a thread titled "THIS THREAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DONOVAN MITCHELL, SO IF YOU WANNA CYSE HIM GO SOMEWHERE ELSE." we was talmbout fultz and tatum. then, here he come "what about my guy, y'all? he better than tatum!"

so, now we here. and he tryna flip it like we was sensitive when it was his sensitivity that caused all of it. all because his thick neck dog head guy wasn't gettin pub.

I got no vested interest in either Mitchell or Tatum. I wish them both well, but once the season starts I won't be checking for neither of them. U can feel free to continue and use my one and only light-hearted post to fuel your agenda with???

for your man.

Got my man sitting behind sorry ass Larry Drew. *smh*

I didn't see him play, but the #'s look good.

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#RIPProdigy

yall so pressed.

This cat is making passes that you'd hope to see once per game...and he make them routinely. The full court touch passes right on a dime.

Put that right on the money. He's going to be fun to watch.

https://youtu.be/duxRUu2ykj4?t=82

Goddamn.

If anything it's looking like his passing was underrated coming in.

Those Hail Mary's are pretty and all but they don't mean shit when he's playing defense like this.

and went off.

Mighta been them orthopedic kobes holding him back.

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I was reading people saying he would have trouble getting by people and it was pissing me off. i just watched him out-athlete people for 6 months.

he took less than 20 shots all season that weren't 3s, lay ups or dunks...last year

so he actually hasn't been showing his ability to score in the paint or the post or anywhere under the 3 point line ...

he obviously had the ability to do so, but he hadn't shown it.

until tonight..

But then said this:
>he obviously had the ability to do so, but he hadn't shown
>it.
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>until tonight..
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How can he watch (and see) what is not shown?

>How can he watch (and see) what is not shown?

That's not what WC is saying. Basa said he's reading that people are concerned that he wouldn't be able to do certain things. WC is saying that Zo played a style that lent itself to the things Basa always reading, so if Basa was bothered by those things then he must not have watched Zo that much.

and yes Lonzo is a hell of an athlete even for D1 standards.

In college he got a number of those dunks/layups aka points in the paint off alley oops, putbacks, or blowing by guys with his speed and vertical aka aspects of his athleticism.

"Glad he finally used his superior athleticism"

^^^^those were my first words. i've known of the kid since 2014. the point was he's always been a superior athlete and i'm glad he used his athleticism last night, because chatter had already started on twitter and sports boards that he's having trouble getting by people. i didn't feel like he was even TRYING that hard to get by people. he was feeling shit out. so, i was annoyed by people creating false narratives about lonzo's ability, because i know it's not true. he's been one of the top 3 athletes on the court in every game.

somehow those two chuckleheads made this about what i thought lonzo ball lacked in athleticism, as opposed to what i ACTUALLY SAID. and it ain't like i wrote a lot of shit that could confuse someone. them niggas just dumb, man.



>and yes Lonzo is a hell of an athlete even for D1 standards.
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>In college he got a number of those dunks/layups aka points in
>the paint off alley oops, putbacks, or blowing by guys with
>his speed and vertical aka aspects of his athleticism.

I simply explained what WC meant in relation to Shawn's question.

Dumb as fuck is the guy who can't point to a single thing I said that relays my personal opinion on your stance or Warrens.

>I simply explained what WC meant in relation to Shawn's
>question.
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>Dumb as fuck is the guy who can't point to a single thing I
>said that relays my personal opinion on your stance or
>Warrens.
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And you aren't talking to anyone like that anywhere but behind that keyboard. You need to fall back on that shit.

"so if Basa was bothered by those things then he must not have watched Zo that much."

you supported WC's wrong-headed ass point. all your dumb ass had to say was "yeah, WC misunderstood what Basa was saying."....you ain't say that tho. you regurgitated that shit like it was accurate and tried to explain to Shawn what WC was saying...which was WRONG.

so again, shut your dumb ass up.

and not only am i safely behind a computer, nigga. i'm sitting in my underwear, deciding which movie i'm bout to go see.

fuck off.

>"so if Basa was bothered by those things then he must not
>have watched Zo that much."
>
>you supported WC's wrong-headed ass point.

No, I paraphrased WC specifically in relation to Shawn's question.

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>"Glad he finally used his superior athleticism"
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>^^^^those were my first words. i've known of the kid since
>2014. the point was he's always been a superior athlete and
>i'm glad he used his athleticism last night, because chatter
>had already started on twitter and sports boards that he's
>having trouble getting by people. i didn't feel like he was
>even TRYING that hard to get by people. he was feeling shit
>out. so, i was annoyed by people creating false narratives
>about lonzo's ability, because i know it's not true. he's been
>one of the top 3 athletes on the court in every game.
>
>somehow those two chuckleheads made this about what i thought
>lonzo ball lacked in athleticism, as opposed to what i
>ACTUALLY SAID. and it ain't like i wrote a lot of shit that
>could confuse someone. them niggas just dumb, man.
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>>and yes Lonzo is a hell of an athlete even for D1 standards.
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>>In college he got a number of those dunks/layups aka points
>in
>>the paint off alley oops, putbacks, or blowing by guys with
>>his speed and vertical aka aspects of his athleticism.


just like most west coast basketball.... because of time zone you watch very little then come on to make claims about players you've hardly seen play...

"I watched Lonzo out athletic guys for 6 months"...

man miss me.... You probably have seen the kid play 5 times maybe... You ain't staying up till 1 in the morning on watching Pac 12 basketball....

just like you weren't staying up watching D'Lo play for the Lakers then analyzing his game like you actually watch him play..

Duke Bust....

you exposed..

having agendas on players who you are literally asleep while they're playing doesn't fly here..

You're not welcome in Laker Nation...

fool I'm a Laker fan... I wanted Ingram from jump... could care less where he went to school..

don't worry...you'll be "leaving to spend more time with family" after next year when Bron bounces from Kyrie...


you left here in a rainstorm of L's and came back coattailing on Lebron.....

you can't coat tail the Magic Johnson led Los Angeles Lakers..... just hold out till zeke get another job....I heard they hiring in NY.... just have to sign a "no harassing masculine women" clause....

nm

I'm a Laker fan...

now you get to pretend like you're staying up late to watch a team designed by Earvin Magic Johnson...

the only person mad would be you...

I could care less where Lakers went to college...MY college squad got hall of famers jersey's hanging in staples center...3 of them in fact....

and now a rare Duke non-flop gets to play with the next great former Bruin Laker star...

Brandon's going to do it all at least pretty well and a few things great, and Lonzo is just special in the things he sees and the passes he makes. Lakers fans are going to have some fun, and nobody should have any reason to be mad unless they root for another WC team(in a few years) or the C's and they're pretending they're still all into that.

I simply explained what WC was saying in relation to your question.

fun to see him calibrate his physical attributes game by game.

looks like he's getting comfortable.. good deal..
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He's like Westbrook 2.0 out there. Just physically imposing his will on others.

And Kuzma - when he's not shooting from 2 feet behind the line - has been so wet on his jumper. As for Lonzo's, he got tapped 4 times tonight - is what it is, yet another game where he controlled the pace and was the catalyst for everyone else. My favorite part was the play that sealed the game: Zo calling for the double screen which was followed by him reversing his dribble and Kuz re-setting then popping while Zubac cut to the rim...perfect call and setup for a wide open Kuzma 3 to push the lead 9 with a minute left.

that "Ball's a bust" agenda lasted what..... 48 hours..

Yeah, he's really fucking good.

Barring injuries derailing him or course.

Good lord, this cat is everything I thought and more.

But his passing really does look transcendent too... The kid already looks like he's God Tier in that respect, right today.

But last night's first half was the best half by any player at the summer league that I saw. He straight dominated. If he can get better at his on ball defense, he's really gonna be a problem


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DSJ is going to be dope. I think that's clear.

Zo really does look transcendent though, even with his shooting struggles. I don't think anyone else in this draft would be as great a fit for this particular squad either.

Zo is the proverbial "make everyone around him better" player. He's going to transform this team on a cultural level. I don't think anyone else in this draft would bring that quality to the table.

Likewise, Kuzma really does look like a steal and a major bonus to the DLo trade.

Summer League is summer league though. I'm curious to see how these two integrate with the rest of the team but the

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You saw him start pulling up on niggas last night

when Chris Paul, or Avery Bradley, or Beverly or someone decides they are going to get in his shit at the backcourt foul line

not that i dont think he can deal with it, just curious to see what happens

>when Chris Paul, or Avery Bradley, or Beverly or someone
>decides they are going to get in his shit at the backcourt
>foul line
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>not that i dont think he can deal with it, just curious to see
>what happens

cant believe no one ever thought of that!

>cant believe no one ever thought of that!

That's an interesting conclusion.

im pretty sure CP has been dealing with goonish backcourt screens since middle school

im also pretty sure Brook Lopez isnt going to be the guy to make CP reevaluate the way he plays basketball

don't regularly do that in a NBA. Its part of a big man's job to not allow an opposing guard to ride his PG up the floor and to set hard screens on them to deter them from doing so.

than of Brook Lopez making Chris Paul scared to defend

>than of Brook Lopez making Chris Paul scared to defend

Youve seen his speed once he puts on the jets. Good luck trying to contain that 70 feet. Once he beats that first guy he's playing 5 on 4-- with his vision you're at a major disadvantage

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Outcome wasn't good

And his ball handling is sound. I don't think he'll have much problem with that to be honest.

in fact i wouldnt be surprised to see JC bring the ball up in late situations vs ball-hounders, at least in the beginning

re: the cutting, if the D picks up full to 3/4 that give and go could create fake "transition" for him to do lonzo stuff

That's the beauty of a player who is willing to pass every play and understands ball movement is a very powerful tool

Happy with Lonzo tho... he's a difference maker..

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That said I don't think he brings the sort of seismic cultural shift Lonzo will.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/6ntiyh/oc_why_dennis_smith_jr_needs_to_fix_his_landing/

Thoughts? (LA2Philly, I'm looking at you, lol)

From thse clips, there's no way to know whether DSJ has poor landing mechanics -there's no information regarding his normal landing mechanics. What DSJ needs to be weary of, and this goes for any high leaper, is the risk-reward of leaping into traffic bc it's those unknown variables in the air that can really put you into adverse, high risk situations.

The higher and longer you're off the ground, the more risk you're at for contact and impairing your landing. The farther you have to come down, the higher the level of ground reaction forces (GRF) that your body has to attenuate upon landing. The intersection of impaired landing and higher GRF is increased risk.

The DRose comparison with DSJ holds in that both are under-sized high leapers but a major difference from what I have seen between the two is their movement patterns: DSJ is more of a straight-line jumper whereas DRose consistently contorted himself, impairing his landing even on plays where there wasn't major contact. Additionally, one of DRose's fav moves is the jump stop - which is high load movement - whereas DSJ, from what I have seen, tends to favor less jarring movements such as the 1-2 step, fake reverse turnaround jumper.

I love reddit's hot takes but the post seemed incomplete.

my knees hurt just watching it.

He's going to have to learn how to land and then stop being so reckless with his drives. Be more deliberate and agile. Will extend his career.

Sore knees at 24 won't be fun.

to about 60% and do a layup.