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Topic subject | Swaggy P aka Uncle P aka Nick Young down (NBA 11/29 Post) |
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2579568, Swaggy P aka Uncle P aka Nick Young down (NBA 11/29 Post) Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Nov-29-16 08:48 PM
down w/ a strained achilles. mri tomorrow. non-contact. fuck. things were going too well.
On Now Lakers vs Pelicans Pistons vs Hornets Clippers vs Brooklyn Cavs vs Bucks Magic vs Spurs
9pm EST Rockets vs Jazz
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2579570, LA2P's of reddit saying it looks like classic tear Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Nov-29-16 08:57 PM
Theyre guessing Lakers are calling it a strain til MRI where they can confirm its torn and hes done for the year.
Sucks if true given he was having a bit of a revial year
>down w/ a strained achilles. mri tomorrow. non-contact. >fuck. >things were going too well. > >On Now >Lakers vs Pelicans >Pistons vs Hornets >Clippers vs Brooklyn >Cavs vs Bucks >Magic vs Spurs > >9pm EST >Rockets vs Jazz
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2579574, The Thompson test can pretty much rule out Achilles full tears Posted by LA2Philly, Tue Nov-29-16 09:11 PM
Not sure who you are reading on reddit but a Thompson test has an established .96 sensitivity...meaning it can rule out full Achilles tears with a false positive rate of only 4%. An MRI would be used to confirm that but you don't need an MRI to have a very good indicator of whether it's a full tear vs a strain. If Nunez knows his stuff (and he's given every indication that he does esp with his technique while evaluating injuries during games), then if it's being called a strain, it's more than likely a strain.
Lastly, a "classic tear" would occur during active plantar-flexion of the foot where the Achilles activates and tears. Looking at the replay, Nick doesn't have a pain response until he lands on one foot which immediately tells me it's likely a high impact dorsiflexion mechanism which can also damage the Achilles via tensioning it (stretching) but doesn't place nearly the amount of load as plantar-flexion. I could easily be reading the replay wrong but that would be my inclination based on when he responded and subsequent diagnosis of strain (again, assuming Nunez used the Thompson test).
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2579600, RE: The Thompson test can pretty much rule out Achilles full tears Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Nov-29-16 10:47 PM
You don't think it's possible they' know what's up and just are saying strain pending MRI because the fight want to announce it being torn right away?
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2579603, It's certainly possible Posted by LA2Philly, Tue Nov-29-16 10:51 PM
I'm going based off 2 assumptions: 1) Nunez knows the optimal manual test and 2)The info released so far is based off that test.
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2579788, R calf strain Posted by LA2Philly, Wed Nov-30-16 06:44 PM
Very similar to an Achilles strain bc the calf (could be gastrocs or soleus) essentially becomes the Achilles' tendon. The mechanism is almost surely dorsiflexion tension as I described above.
Moral of the story: Attention to detail matters, esp when it comes to diagnostics.
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2579799, So what's the takeaway for him? Posted by theeraser, Wed Nov-30-16 08:15 PM
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2579800, For Nick? Posted by LA2Philly, Wed Nov-30-16 08:41 PM
In general, you can't do much to prevent high impact acute force injuries, he landed in a high stress angle off a dynamic movement....it's an unfortunate series of events.
Going forward, I'd tell him to be really sensitive to *any* pain in that leg because the calf is a big force absorber along with plantar-flexor so pain somewhere else in the chain would very likely be indicative of compensation...which can lead to subsequent injury.
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2579571, how very Asik of him to miss the buzzer beater layup Posted by Wonderl33t, Tue Nov-29-16 09:02 PM
and yeah, bummer for Young. Hopefully it's not too bad. ______________________________ http://i.imgur.com/Gj5Wy56.jpg
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2579576, Had a shitty feeling about this game all day Posted by LA2Philly, Tue Nov-29-16 09:19 PM
They've been playing much better since Jrue returned, we blew them out after AD went out last time, and they are coming off 2 pretty bad losses on the road. That combined with our win over ATL and our first long distance road game in over a week had me really nervous about the game. Kept telling myself I was just being overly pessimistic but we were asleep at the wheel in the first half with I'm sure some shell-shock from Nick going down...NOH was the aggressor, got wherever they wanted.
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2579577, you know what I like about LeBron James nowadays Posted by Dr Claw, Tue Nov-29-16 09:25 PM
is that he can basically Rondo it out there, but more efficiently
taking less shots, but getting about 9 assists a game
this is a cool reversal of how he was early in his career when he was basically "the man"
he still is, but he's doing it way differently know
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2579580, bron started inexplicably ball-hogging. Posted by Basaglia, Tue Nov-29-16 09:46 PM
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2579639, it's funny how I type that, and he went off his game Posted by Dr Claw, Wed Nov-30-16 06:42 AM
and they catch a L
something wasn't right
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2579668, From what I saw in the third quarter Posted by Numba_33, Wed Nov-30-16 09:48 AM
the Bucks played stellar defense, did a good job off the glass, and didn't cough up the ball a ton, which helped to eliminate the open three pointers the Cavs normally feast on.
It looked like early in the fourth quarter the Cavs in general got frustrating and starting coughing up the ball carelessly; LeBron wasn't alone in playing sloppily last night.
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2579579, Really sad...He's on a way-below-market contract right now, too Posted by theeraser, Tue Nov-29-16 09:44 PM
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2579585, Giannis is spray farting is Brons mouth Posted by cantball, Tue Nov-29-16 10:13 PM
____________________
<================== Learn the name now before everyone gets dunked on
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2579587, Did Sean Kilpatrick swap bodies with CP3? Posted by MothershipConnection, Tue Nov-29-16 10:15 PM
Related, the last 3 games might be the worst I've ever seen CP3 play... the numbers look OK but he's making just bizarre errors for him, like fast break turnovers, losing his handle, not being anywhere close to hitting from midrange. He's seriously made some JV point guard errors out there that I'm not used to seeing.
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2579589, What in the heck is going on in this BK/LAC game Posted by MothershipConnection, Tue Nov-29-16 10:24 PM
Checked my phone on my way home and Clips were up 18, got home and it was damn near tied, Lopez is raining 3s and Sean Kilpatrick is apparently unstoppable, CP3 hits a 3 to send it to OT..... Clippers down again in OT and Doc gets thrown out the game, Nets miss 3 of 4 to seal the game, Crawford hits another 3 to send it to double OT...
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2579595, CP3 has also made some huge plays down the stretch... Posted by theeraser, Tue Nov-29-16 10:38 PM
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2579599, He's been big in their wins Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Nov-29-16 10:46 PM
When he attacks the basket he's a pretty good player. Whenever Jeremy finally gets back it'll be interesting to see them playing together getting the ball side to side and attacking
There were several times in the OTs though where they needed to get brook some post touches.
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2579590, maaaaaaan wtf was Doc so mad about Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Nov-29-16 10:28 PM
he was about to kill that ref if he got loose
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2579594, Mauer was about to be BODIED Posted by MothershipConnection, Tue Nov-29-16 10:33 PM
I think they didn't want the foul and was misheard (at least according to the local broadcast) from all the way across the court on the first T and just lost it.
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2579597, Doesn't matter if he wanted the foul though Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Nov-29-16 10:44 PM
There was a foul in the play. Kirkpatrick got hit on the arm swinging through. That was a foul. It wasn't blown prematurely from what I saw.
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2579605, Mauer called the T when he was talking to Holtkamp Posted by MothershipConnection, Tue Nov-29-16 10:52 PM
Agreed the original foul was a foul but that's apparently what set up off to try and body Kenny Mauer (also Clippers completely deserved to lose that game).
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2579612, Surprised that Choke-P didn't get a tech w/ Holtkamp in the building Posted by FILF, Tue Nov-29-16 11:04 PM
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2579613, i'm sure if he looked at her too sternly he'd get a T Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Nov-29-16 11:10 PM
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2579606, i thought the same thing re: timing of the call Posted by LA2Philly, Tue Nov-29-16 10:53 PM
He swung through and got hit, then the foul was called.
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2579598, Utah is really good...they can hang with anyone in the West playoffs Posted by theeraser, Tue Nov-29-16 10:45 PM
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2579604, RE: Utah is really good...they can hang with anyone in the West playoffs Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Nov-29-16 10:52 PM
They're still not fully healthy either
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2579610, They would be a scary team if Hood wasn't so inconsistent Posted by FILF, Tue Nov-29-16 11:02 PM
When Favors is healthy, their starting 5 is the best defensive team in the league but they are a younger version of the Grizz who also stay getting injured.
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2579615, And Hill and Diaw were perfect pick-ups...even Trey Lyles contributes Posted by theeraser, Tue Nov-29-16 11:24 PM
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2579631, Diaw has been terrible, dude might be done Posted by FILF, Wed Nov-30-16 01:10 AM
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2579617, ^^^ Posted by dula dibiasi, Tue Nov-29-16 11:29 PM
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2579343&mesg_id=2579343&page=#2579411
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2579601, Sums it up Posted by cantball, Tue Nov-29-16 10:48 PM
https://gfycat.com/ExhaustedPersonalFiddlercrab?branch_used=true ____________________
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2579607, Spurs should just play all their games on the road Posted by FILF, Tue Nov-29-16 10:53 PM
The team essentially has been sleepwalking at home against every opponent while winning all 10 of their road games by least 5 points which is an NBA record.
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2579609, Road blowouts highlight our need for a defensive identity Posted by LA2Philly, Tue Nov-29-16 10:56 PM
You're gonna have games, esp on the road, where you're out of your comfort zone and the shots aren't falling or things don't go your way....what allows you to stay in those games and mitigate some of those factors is being able to hang your hat on defense rather than allowing your effort and attitude to depend on the offensive flow. Until that happens, we will continue to suffer some of these road blowouts...thus far vs Minny and tonight vs NOH
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2579611, Bizarro night, Spurs, Clips & Cavs all caught L's? Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Nov-29-16 11:04 PM
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2579632, With the Spurs in their own damn house :/ Posted by mtbatol, Wed Nov-30-16 01:17 AM
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2579633, All 6 games on Tuesday were won by the team with the worse record Posted by FILF, Wed Nov-30-16 01:21 AM
The Elias Sports Bureau notes that this is the second time in NBA history that has happened
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2579614, http://tinyurl.com/jk22vja Posted by dula dibiasi, Tue Nov-29-16 11:12 PM
http://tinyurl.com/jk22vja
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2579624, Jr! Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Nov-30-16 12:00 AM
https://m.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/5fn5u2/jr_smith_talks_to_jason_terry_during_game_gives/
https://streamable.com/426k
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2579661, I saw that and was DYING!!! LMMFAO Posted by auragin_boi, Wed Nov-30-16 09:20 AM
Like, you seriously dapping up the other team, while LOSING and let your man get an open dunk?
hahahahahahahaha
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2579708, JET played him as if he was a rook Posted by FILF, Wed Nov-30-16 12:17 PM
>Like, you seriously dapping up the other team, while LOSING >and let your man get an open dunk? > >hahahahahahahaha
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2579712, From the coaching genius that brought you: Posted by HowieDooem, Wed Nov-30-16 12:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEqU7JHkfu0
Kidd's angling for a technical advisor credit in kids' wacky underdog sports movies.
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