http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242826/Bryan-Colangelo-Admits-76ers-Will-Likely-Trade-Okafor-Noel-Or-Embiid


I really hope it's Oak. He'd be outta there and Simmons wouldn't have anyone to finish his entry passes. Two birds.

Even if Embiid isn't in the picture, One of Noel/Jah probably has to go. Despite the fact that they were by far our two best players last year, when they were on the floor together it just didn't work. Both are better suited at the 5. With Saric and Simmons both coming in and eating time up at the 4, I just don't see that there is any way to use them all.

I guess if Embiid really never plays (a possibility) you can figure some sort of creative OKC-esque split between the two with Jah as Kanter and Noel as Steven Adams. Not sure if that is the most effective way to utilize either as their ceilings are much higher than their OKC counterpart.

Sucks that one of the two will be gone soon since they are the only two Sixers I've actually been excited about since the early stages of Iggy's career (new additions this year not included).

it sucks, but it is what it is. i am strongly against trading both nerlens and jah for this reason.

nah but anyway, he's said to be fully healed via the foot scan, grown into the extra 2-3 inches he's gained since Kansas, started recovering from some of the maturity issues on display following being a teenage millionaire in a new continent on the heels of his younger brother's sudden death as well as staring down the barrel of a sudden death of a career that'd yet to begin.

Basically, I'll set it at this: if he plays 68 games or more this season then he is not only our starting center/best player but also the 2016-2017 NBA Rookie Of The Year.

If not?

Well, guess we'll say oh well and make due with Okafor and Noel.

Could be worse.

Like Randle & Mozgov.

You still on this even though it kind of looks like the team may actually be turning the corner? You don't want Nerlens catching transition oops from Simmons?

I like Ben though.

stay on our good side because Nerlens ain't going nowhere.

It's gonna be Jah or Nerlins...I don't see any team willing to take the risk on a chronically injured big in Joel.

the Shirley Temple glass has gone fully dry.

That is a sunk cost that could still become our biggest plus.

No reason to toss away that longshot trifecta ticket before the race results have been posted.

I hope to God that Colangelo understands that basic fact because I know damn well HDD truly did.

We can flip Okafor to y'all later once Mitch & Jimmy really start needing to save their jobs at the deadline or after the season.

Only problem is I'm not sure you have much we'd actually want.

Colangelo is trying to gain some traction in the FA market by actually fielding an improving team, not continually trying to hoard assets.

As far as us dealing for Okafor, we have zero reason to lol. The system we use offensively doesn't put much of a premium on 5's who can score from the block...the focus is a big who can set excellent screens, pass from the high post, defend the lane, and is a great teammate. Mozgov fits all those criteria and we had to give him a couple more years bc we are a 17 win team after all lol.

Okafor is the guy they should trade. His value is highest amongst the bigs and he seems like the worst fit. Deal Okafor, start Noel/Simmons with Embiid and Saric backing up. You could also maybe try Noel/Saric/Simmons at times although we'll see if either Saric or Simmons can handle chasing opposing swingmen around on D.

Embiid's trade value has to be shit right now. Noel is probably the easier guy to move but I think the Sixers need help on defense. Saric could be easier to move but they probably wouldn't talk about that publicly until they get him to sign tomorrow.

Embiid's potential value is way higher than his actual trade value, and Nerlens simply fits what they're trying to do better.

he'll be due for restricted FA after this season. Jah stays cheap for three more seasons.

Next season, they'll have like 20 million to spend just to get to the salary floor.

all the defensive metrics like him, sure, but those inexact measures of defensive impact at best. he also regressed on those numbers last year. there were good reasons for that (playing with The Big Turnstyle, shittier guards, etc) but it's still not a good sign

(keep in mind this all me playing Devils' Advocate. I would very much prefer to keep Nerlens. I'm just wasting time while I widen these data sets.)

He's not 1a good but he's a good defensive minded big man. I'm guessing he blows up this season for a big contract but that's how the NBA has always been - bigs get paid.

and that you'd be disappointed if he only became as good as Ibaka.

>

and you end up with a bunch of guys who play the same position...needing to trade at least 1 of them..and you have no leverage in a trade because none of the guys have shown much in the NBA, and er'body knows you HAVE to trade..

smh...

>and you end up with a bunch of guys who play the same
>position...needing to trade at least 1 of them..and you have
>no leverage in a trade because none of the guys have shown
>much in the NBA, and er'body knows you HAVE to trade..

my number one complaint about hinkie was that he showed no understanding that players might decrease in asset value more or less quickly depending on the context with which you surround them.

that's his problem...

When you lose so often....eventually you should be able to have a line up of young guys you've drafted high as a result of your losing.

never seemed like that was the Sixers plan. They seemed to be drafting guys for other reasons than putting a potential young line up together. Drafting guys as assets other than what they would bring to your lineup on the court....for potential trades, like they're trying to do now. That's not how you build a winning team. That's how you stay in the lottery .

Stick him on a talentless team with little interest and winning and he showed out. That's a lot harder for big men to do.

The asset approach is like the stat approach; it's fine but you have to realize that these are teams of human beings and there's more to their success than just what's on paper.

I'm on the outside here, even in terms to paying attention to the sport as a whole. But a lot of the defenses of this fellow seem to take as foundational the notion that sound player evaluation (and health is a skill) isn't really an important part of being a GM.

not to be a dick, but i actually have iron-clad sources on embiid's injury. he's going to be a stupendously high injury risk his entire career, and if the sixers (or anyone else) had doctors worth their salt, they would not have taken him in the Top Ten. the sixers did not perform an adequate risk/reward calculus on the embiid pick.

that said, i think hinkie's player evaluation process was about average. he missed on some guys picked later who would've been better than who he picked, but that's true of every GM ever. he also got guys who were better than people picked in front of them.

his biggest issue with the draft was his assumption that he was operating with a completely open time frame. that belief was based on what was promised from ownership. as a result he assumed that he had unlimited time to find a true foundational piece and spent both of his top 5 draft picks on guys he thought were most likely to be that piece, regardless of risk or fit.

what did him in was the ownership (inevitably, a reasonable person might suggest) going back on the completely open time frame and a complete lack of interpersonal skills.

Nobody's complaining about the Wolves essentially doing the same thing because they have Rubio and signed vets like KG and Tayshaun.

and some more young guys.

But LaVine was a nice grab. Still, Bazz right before The Greek Freak is a rough one as is passing on Jokic and Clarkson in 2015 2nd round.

But they've been good. I like Dunn but can't shake the feeling that Murray might have been the better option there.

bazz was still an OK value, even though there was a steal behind him.

i dont think you can fry a team for passing on guys in the second round, every other GM in the L also passed them over at least once, generally.

hopefully philly finally get a No. 1 helps them solidify things.

It's helpful. Thanks.

>that said, i think hinkie's player evaluation process was
>about average. he missed on some guys picked later who
>would've been better than who he picked, but that's true of
>every GM ever. he also got guys who were better than people
>picked in front of them.

Since I'm not in a good position (by virtue of not having enough energy to pay much attention to the NBA) I'm actually less interested in his actual player evaluation than the idea (which seems to be floated in defenses of Hinkie's tenure) that player evaluation is so secondary to contrast/roster-management bingo that it's not really a relevant part of being a GM. Maybe I'm off-base on this, but I feel like I see a lot of question-begging use of the term "crapshoot" in reference to the Sixers.

It's interesting that you note he's actually not that bad at it though. It means I'm either wrong about people minimizing it or it's yet another reason that people are minimizing it wrongly.

>assumed that he had unlimited time to find a true foundational
>piece and spent both of his top 5 draft picks on guys he
>thought were most likely to be that piece, regardless of risk
>or fit.

It seems crazy that somebody would offer him that. It kind of reduces the job requirements to run one of these billion dollar businesses:

a)patience
b)ability to endure being called a dumbass

Though that second one isn't a small thing in Philadelphia. People there are way meaner than, say, Minneapolis.

His whole strategy was based on asset management, stockpiling and loopholes and it was a five-year plan that he got fired three years into.

The idea was to get as much raw value as possible and then sort it out later.

Noel was projected as the No. 1 pick preseason but then he hurt his knee. He got him in a deal for an oft-injured point guard and he also got another lottery pick in the same trade. You have to look at the value at the time, and that is tremendous in terms of acquiring the picks and using the first one on the guy he did (the second pick is TBD, the guy he basically got for it hasn't arrived yet).

In that same draft he managed to get the Rookie of the Year at five slots lower with his own pick. He flipped that into what will be a top 5 pick in an excellent draft next season, and the player has mostly been a disappointment to the team that acquired him. Again, superb asset management.

Okafor was projected at times to go No. 1 but then Towns surpassed him. Surprisingly, the Lakers passed on Okafor. So you have a potential No. 1/2 there at 3, and he took him. It was a no-brainer, any GM sitting at 3 would have taken Okafor, including Phil Jackson IMO (who picked behind him and took Porzingis, another good player). Again that is excellent value.

He managed to parlay some junk contracts into the right to swap picks with Sacramento for two years and other such deals where he just kept sucking draft picks and peripheral assets for basically nothing (being a salary gutter and things of the like).

Embiid was another potential No. 1 that he got at 3. Obviously he has been injured and Saric has been in Europe, but both guys should show us what they have soon.

They don't have any guards but now they are addressing that as they signed some veterans and drafted some wing players. They still have a ton of cap space, especially if you look a couple years out when they will be looking at FAs before their young guys need new contracts.

None of this amounts to anything substantive you can point to this season and say WHOA THEY ARE GONNA BE GOOD, but in terms of asset management he did an expert job.

SoulHonky posted an alternatives scenario and they still would have been frontcourt heavy and not all that talented.

Let's see what they can spin this into.

The question mark is Embiid's health, but he is talented. The other two guys have come pretty close to expectations.

The Process worked this year and they got the #1 pick. Will Simmons be worth all of that losing?

The draft is always a crap shoot. You have to hope you get the #1 pick and then hope that it's the year of a generational talent. The Process in the mid-90's would have gotten the likes of Brand, K-Mart, Kwame, and Kandiman.

I think the Sixers got solid talent. Not sure that all of that losing got them the generational talent that is going to carry them. (But maybe it will next year with their own and the Lakers pick.)

what's not known is if they're all healthy and if can they coexist/compliment each other.

But all three are more "talented" than any frontcourt player on say, the Lakers, for example....by a lot.

college games he played in 3 years ago?

Oak's got game, at this point Nerlens is Birdman with melanin.

team's best all-around player and often offensive option but continue.

Oden was supposed to be David Robinson 2.0 & now y'all will be dreaming about Hakeem.

>But all three are more "talented" than any frontcourt player
>on say, the Lakers, for example....by a lot.

>>

filf and vex, take notes from Uncle Bomb - this is how you do it.

good to see you back, man.

>filf and vex, take notes from Uncle Bomb - this is how you do
>it.
>
>good to see you back, man.
>
good to be back, brotha. peace.

thanks for next year's #1, #2 or #3 pick while you still don't have anything close to a building block piece and are busy overpaying Mozgov and chasing cats like Melo.

It'd be almost sad how irrelevant the Lakers are right now until I hear deluded Laker Fans like yourself pop off on us like we ain't in a million times better position than y'all right now.

>It'd be almost sad how irrelevant the Lakers are right now
>until I hear deluded Laker Fans like yourself pop off on us
>like we ain't in a million times better position than y'all
>right now.

I know you enjoy taking the extreme positions because of the Lakers napoleonic complex drilled into you since birth but with Kobe now into retirement, we actually have a strategy and plan for team development.

That being said, I also like the position the Sixers are in. Lots of good talent but you guys certainly need guards who can space the floor in order to complement the 3-4-5 slots.

>>It'd be almost sad how irrelevant the Lakers are right now
>>until I hear deluded Laker Fans like yourself pop off on us
>>like we ain't in a million times better position than y'all
>>right now.
>
BWHAHAHAAAAHAHAAAAHAHAAAA.....oh word.....now it's starting?

HAHAHAHAAHAAAAA.....cool.

>I know you enjoy taking the extreme positions because of the
>Lakers napoleonic complex drilled into you since birth but
>with Kobe now into retirement, we actually have a strategy and
>plan for team development.

I don't see much thus far (obviously jury way out on Ingram as a rookie but Randle is not a building block and I don't buy Russell ever being a Top 10 PG in this league let alone a superstar).

I also don't see a whole lot of help on the way in part because you guys are giving us your pick next draft even if it's #1 overall.

It is actually not an extreme position to say the Lakers are, as currently constructed, a poorly run organization from top down and a perennial bottom feeder with no real signs that's changing soon outside of "oh we're not doing something stupid like letting Kobe hijack the organization as he's done for half a decade.

I don't blame Laker Fans completely for not being able to recognize a shit show when it's staring them in the face, because it so rarely has during their lifetime.

But I'm acutely aware of what that looks like.

I've got next to no tangible indication that the Los Angeles Lakers having figured out anything or not being a mess that likely results in ownership-leader-jockeying, family in-fighting and Mitch being gone by the start of next season.
>
>That being said, I also like the position the Sixers are in.
>Lots of good talent but you guys certainly need guards who can
>space the floor in order to complement the 3-4-5 slots.
>
Sure.

Even if Ben Simmons becomes a point guard (which Brett Brown thinks he can be but I am strictly wait-and-see) they obviously have a glaring lack of shooters that can't be covered up at the two guard slot by Gerald Henderson Jr and Robert Covington and especially Nick Stauskus' bum-ass (I told Longo this dude was gonna be sorry but luckily we got paid to take him).

That will be for next year's draft and which of the three if-healthy bigs they decide to deal which if I had to lay money or invest any emotion in it would on both sides be Okafor.

I'm just happy that I'm gonna have young talent on the floor to watch/evaluate, it reminds me a bit of the early Stackhouse/Iverson/Thomas/Smith/etc teams where you knew you had some pedigree you just needed to watch them grow up a bit and suss out who was coming, staying and going while the squad trended upward.

To me if I can go to a Sixer game and see a lineup of Simmons, RoCo, Dario, Noel & Embid on the floor running together for a stretch up close?

Then that's the most excited I'm gonna be watching the Sixers since 2003.

Time will show you're wrong though

>Time will show you're wrong though

>thanks for next year's #1, #2 or #3 pick while you still
>don't have anything close to a building block piece and are
>busy overpaying Mozgov and chasing cats like Melo.

Russell....Clarkson.....Ingram....Randle.....Nash Jr....Black....Zubac

Those are building block pieces Bomb.



>
>It'd be almost sad how irrelevant the Lakers are right now
>until I hear deluded Laker Fans like yourself pop off on us
>like we ain't in a million times better position than y'all
>right now.


Nobody but a desperate Sixer fan would say they are in a better position than the Lakers right now. Having a bunch of slow-footed 4s and 5s..needing to trade 1 or 2 of them, is not the position a team that has been in the lottery for several years in a row should be in...it's just not.

Just stick around Bomb...the Lakers have done the rebuild exactly how they should have done it, and now have several young talented players who they can build a line up with, and grow together...

Larry Nance Jr. was the 27th pick in the draft and would be the best player on the Sixers right today....

The Sixers have basically a bunch of D-league guys to go with 4 centers and Ben Simmons... after all that losing and lottery appearances, that is nowhere near the roster they should have right now.

>>thanks for next year's #1, #2 or #3 pick while you still
>>don't have anything close to a building block piece and are
>>busy overpaying Mozgov and chasing cats like Melo.
>
>Russell....Clarkson.....Ingram....Randle.....Nash
>Jr....Black....Zubac
>
>Those are building block pieces Bomb.
>
Not really, I'll give you Ingram....that about it.
>
>>
>>It'd be almost sad how irrelevant the Lakers are right now
>>until I hear deluded Laker Fans like yourself pop off on us
>>like we ain't in a million times better position than y'all
>>right now.
>
>
>Nobody but a desperate Sixer fan would say they are in a
>better position than the Lakers right now.

actually plenty would and have and nobody likes the Sixers.

Having a bunch of
>slow-footed 4s and 5s..
aka only Okafor, who we will probably trade to your dumb-ass team once Mitch & Jimmy get desperate.

needing to trade 1 or 2 of them, is not
>the position a team that has been in the lottery for several
>years in a row should be in...it's just not.
>
we don't actually need to trade any of the.

>Just stick around Bomb...the Lakers have done the rebuild
>exactly how they should have done it, and now have several
>young talented players who they can build a line up with, and
>grow together...

that's a statement cloaked in immense bullshit, the Lakers are sorry, been sorry for longer than the Sixers even though we ganked the system plus took your pick and the Lakers will continue to be sorry for the forseeable future.

I was trying to tell you this four years ago, been gone over a year and the same shit is true as it was back then, now and to come.
>
>Larry Nance Jr. was the 27th pick in the draft and would be
>the best player on the Sixers right today....
>
lolololol

and I actually like Nance as a bench/energy guy.

>The Sixers have basically a bunch of D-league guys to go with
>4 centers and Ben Simmons... after all that losing and
>lottery appearances, that is nowhere near the roster they
>should have right now.
>
lololol.....the cloak.....lololol

>>thanks for next year's #1, #2 or #3 pick while you still
>>don't have anything close to a building block piece and are
>>busy overpaying Mozgov and chasing cats like Melo.
>
>Russell....Clarkson.....Ingram....Randle.....Nash
>Jr....Black....Zubac
>
>Those are building block pieces Bomb.

WTF bro? You have had the biggest stars in league history, you KNOW these motherfuckers are not BUILDING BLOCK pieces. You're cysing Tarik Black, Nance Jr and Zubacacacacacacac? BREHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

FOH.

Clarkson is an average guard, Russell has done NOTHING as a pro and Randle is not exactly a franchise cornerstone, though he has shown more than these other guys.


>
>Nobody but a desperate Sixer fan would say they are in a
>better position than the Lakers right now. Having a bunch of
>slow-footed 4s and 5s..needing to trade 1 or 2 of them, is not
>the position a team that has been in the lottery for several
>years in a row should be in...it's just not.

Neither team is in a good position but the Sixers have just as many potential pieces plus more to come. We also have a ton of cap space. Enjoy Mozgov, Deng and 30-win seasons.

Philly has three lotto picks arriving right now: the top player in this year's draft, one of if not the best player not in the NBA last season and hopefully a center who went 3 overall. We likely have your pick next year. I wouldn't want to be a fan of either team right now but you and I are not going to run. If I had to choose the taller midget, I would take the Sixers as they have more on the way and lots of cap space. The Lakers are just trash.

what has having a bunch of lottery picks gotten you so far?

5 Centers???

a rookie of the year that you traded away just so you could draft more centers???


lol..

come on man..

Are you serious right now? We have seen two guys on the floor so far. Saric just signed. Embiid should be ready to debut. We will have two more top 10 picks in this year's draft. We have enough cap space for at least two max free agents. The Lakers have literally *none* of this. The crap you see is the crap you get there, and they are just as bad as we are! Congratulations, your teams sucks as much as a franchise that was *trying to lose intentionally*.

he was the rookie of the year.... he was traded to add more picks to a team that...again...is trying to trade guys they just drafted with first round picks...

what the Sixers are doing in terms of accumulating a bunch of guys who play the same position....drafting guys only to trade them a year or two later...just to add more picks and start this strange process all over again..

none of that is consistent with anything ANY NBA team has done that built a solid franchise...

the goal is to get better and start winning...to develop talent...not to continue a process that does nothing but keep you in the lottery.

>thanks for next year's #1, #2 or #3 pick while you still
>don't have anything close to a building block piece and are
>busy overpaying Mozgov and chasing cats like Melo.
>
>It'd be almost sad how irrelevant the Lakers are right now
>until I hear deluded Laker Fans like yourself pop off on us
>like we ain't in a million times better position than y'all
>right now.
>

When do they give out the trophies for "tradable assets"?

We could right back in business next if Russ comes home and brings KD with him.

Meanwhile no free agents ever even consider Philly.

they are both godawful but one has a bunch of not-yet-seen assets, the other has mozgov, deng and likely no first rounder next year.

>>thanks for next year's #1, #2 or #3 pick while you still
>>don't have anything close to a building block piece and are
>>busy overpaying Mozgov and chasing cats like Melo.
>>
>>It'd be almost sad how irrelevant the Lakers are right now
>>until I hear deluded Laker Fans like yourself pop off on us
>>like we ain't in a million times better position than y'all
>>right now.
>>
>
>When do they give out the trophies for "tradable assets"?
>
they don't give out trophies for giving away high lottery picks and overpaying the few D-List bums you can get to come either.

>We could right back in business next if Russ comes home and
>brings KD with him.
>
BWHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAAAA

>Meanwhile no free agents ever even consider Philly.
Actually, Brand was a bigger name free agent than any the Lakers have netted in a decade, he just fell off......meanwhile Howard left and that Hollywood Dream y'all tried to sell Aldridge got laughed at, Melo decided to stay working for Jim Dolan and now y'all just broke the bank for Mosgov while Durant didn't even consider it but you in here hoping for KD to suddenly decide he wants to go play in LA for y'all and bring the dude he stranded in Oklahoma City this summer.

BWAHAHAHAHAAAAA......the irony in your subject line has me dying.

stolen right from the most brain-damaged of mason/ireland callers, and even they seem to have given up at least half of that fantasy.

magic johnson ain't walking through that door, motherfuckers.

Contract urgency is there for him, not for the others. Embiid I can't imagine getting more than 50 cents on the dollar return, maybe less. You have to ride that situation out and if he wasn't close to a return then they wouldn't be making a move now.

Basketball-wise, I think Noel is more of a "modern" NBA big than Okafor but now with a couple of rangy guys coming in (Simmons, Saric), maybe that is not an issue. If they both pan out and so does Embiid, you could always move Okafor later also. If not, then I think Okafor is more of a true 5 and more of an inside scoring presence than Noel is.

Don't get me wrong, right today Noel is probably the best player of the three but not by a big margin and you're also looking at the complete picture. I saw move him, stay flexible and see what shakes loose among the other four guys.

anything and buying into believing we do is the kind of thinking that got this bum-ass Colangelo Fam bum-rushing the building with their bullshit.

I don't believe we have to trade one now but it's also not my decision. Sounds like they will make a move before the summer is out.

at least not until it becomes absolutely obvious who can do what/where while waiting.

I look forward to watching all three closely along with Simmons and Saric develop in this trial showcase season before we make a move.

All while also knowing that we got the Lakers unprotected pick while they continue to again be sorry as shit plus Miami's pick while they continue to sink quick, OKC's pick which is like one Russ trade or injury away from being mid-to-high-lotto and then the right to swap or keep our pick depending on whether it's better than the pick of the sad-ass Sactown Kings.

If only the man responsible for assembling all this blue-chip burgeoning young talent, embarrassment of future pick riches and financial/roster flexibility who won every trade he made was still here to guide us through because he'd probably know just what to do.

Long Live Hinkie-Dinkie-Dawg, wish he didn't have to die so that us Sixer Fans could live.

we can wait for Okafor to put up those empty Cuz stats before moving them.

We don't need to trade anybody, the same way we didn't need to burn money on bullshit free agents this offseason like the sorry-ass Lakers did or the Knicks do annually trying to get up into the back half of the playoffs.

If Embiid comes back this year and Noel balls out for a contract, it might eat into Okafor's minutes and hurt his stock. Or you force Okafor into a grouping that doesn't really mesh well ala this past year.
Or even if Okafor plays alongside Simmons and Saric and the defense is abysmal, it could hurt his stock.

No, the Sixers certainly don't have to sell low on their guys and can hold out for an offer but even if they are getting a little less in return but are getting guys who fill a need, it might be better for the long term, rather than juggling guys who don't fit together.

>If Embiid comes back this year and Noel balls out for a
>contract, it might eat into Okafor's minutes and hurt his
>stock.
If Embiid comes back I don't particularly care what that means for Okafor but he really needs to first show that he's recovered, might actually try on defense, then we got all day/all-season to find someone for that deal.

Or you force Okafor into a grouping that doesn't really
>mesh well ala this past year.
>Or even if Okafor plays alongside Simmons and Saric and the
>defense is abysmal, it could hurt his stock.
>
Okafor's stock is about as bad as it's gonna get right now save real catastrophe.

He's got the worst defensive metrics in the entire league, is out whyling in the street and didn't finish his rookie season while the team was better without him on the court and then sustained an injury that ended his rookie season prematurely.

I expect all that to be better in his second year in the league.....he even looks a lot less doughy already just hanging around in summer league.

>No, the Sixers certainly don't have to sell low on their guys
>and can hold out for an offer but even if they are getting a
>little less in return but are getting guys who fill a need, it
>might be better for the long term, rather than juggling guys
>who don't fit together.

We don't need to go for need yet, trade deadline with a great offer or otherwise next offseason.

>at least not until it becomes absolutely obvious who can do
>what/where while waiting.
>

there is no rush. see what you have first and then decide. I wouldn't make a trade until next trade deadline at the earliest. i gotta see what Embid can do first. Can Saric play in the nba? Too many unknowns at this point to rush to make a trade just for roster balance

plus like you said they have all these potential picks next yr. whats the rush?

>>at least not until it becomes absolutely obvious who can do
>>what/where while waiting.
>>
>
>there is no rush. see what you have first and then decide. I
>wouldn't make a trade until next trade deadline at the
>earliest.
absolutely.

>i gotta see what Embid can do first.
my only concern (not a small one) is him being able to get on the court.

He's a beast as far as size, skill, talent and if you guarantee his health he's easily are best player Simmons included.

Can Saric
>play in the nba?
I think so but as you say here..

Too many unknowns at this point to rush to
>make a trade just for roster balance
>

>plus like you said they have all these potential picks next
>yr. whats the rush?
>
pretty much.

if he's healthy the sixers are going to be really good in a couple years.

there is certainly no rush to do anything. see how healthy embiid is before you make any decisions, it's not like they are going to be really good this year anyway.

This post is full of Lakers fans that this 25 win season is not soon come. Thanks for the upcoming pick. It won't be a center. Might even be a pg better than Clarkson and D'angelo.

And Duke and Kentucky fans worried about board agendas. Lol

The Sixers are fine and will be. Dario just landed. We got him and our own #1 pick back for elfrid payton. We got too many centers like the Celtics got too many guards. It'll sort itself out. Soon. By then we'll know what we really and can keep rebuilding.
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>This post is full of Lakers fans that this 25 win season is
>not soon come. Thanks for the upcoming pick. It won't be a
>center. Might even be a pg better than Clarkson and D'angelo.


anyone else would be a surprise.


i do wish dangelo was the pg for the sixers though, in hindsight

...now I'm pretty much like "Fuck it". I mean, still all for one of them being traded but until Feb 2017 I'm all for seeing the experiment of Simmons at the 1 which would have Embiid/Jah/Saric on the floor together lol.

run 5 bigs with some versatility at a few of the positions

i know, because he's preparing to steal credit for all of simmons' assists

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2514669&mesg_id=2514669&listing_type=search#2520425

jah and myles both better than goof troop.

> jah and myles both better than goof troop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zwABievfNw

you're not even worth me taking the time to post vids of what kyrie did to him in actual games.

Lakers fans need to intervene.

From cloaked in greatness to summer league cysage and PRACTICES????

How the mighty have fallen.


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I think he's looking at making Mosgov dollars because, well because he certainly CAN lol.
He's been thru the worst of it at #TeamTank & now may be coming off the bench to end his rookie deal. Even if the Sixers play out to being good he still could walk away & not look back. Thus get something for him now & we coulda been set

I don't think it's smart to come out and say they are definitely moving one of the guys. I am worried about this Colangelo era. We went from the wildest card player at the table to some according-to-Hoyle old fart.

you can think it but I don't see the point in saying it.

And are we gonna get Noel a new deal? are we gonna spend more than $50mil for a guy who's best position he won't be starting in? Do he even want to be in that situation? Much been made about Jah's -want- to be here yet Noel hasn't been sayin anything as two guys squeeze him outta being a 4 on top of Jah being a 5.
Teams knowing & guessing Noel will make it a crappier task to move him for -something-

Most rookies wait until they hit free agency nowadays. A few agents have said that it makes zero sense to re-sign before then. Noel didn't have a great year so unless his agent is worried about injury, makes more sense for him to try to ball out or hope that he gets traded to a better situation to boost his value.

Noel will start at C next to Simmons while they pace Embiid and see what Saric can do in the league.

Noel will probably be resigned and traded next year after they see what Embiid looks like healthy.

If Embiid does well and is durable for 70+ games, he'll probably be the 2017-18 starter and they'll put some depth behind him just in case.

But Noel will probably be moved due to ego (not wanting to come off the bench) and financial gains (more than philly will want to pay to a back up). He would actually be great as a their back up though. If they keep him, it'll be just up until they have to pay Simmons.

Jah is a starter so there's no need to keep him and Embiid as they both are starting caliber C's.