any impact on his early legacy
or how he is viewed in comparison
to the performance of ring winning greats in the finals?
or is it completely negligible?

i mean its still 2-0
but its 0-2 too.

but dude is trying to break into a class
with shaq, duncan, jordan, hakeem, etc.

kobe "lost" 3 finals mvps to shaq
but shaq wasnt an inferior player.

if the best players doesn't win it as it was in the past imo.

Like I can see a scenario where dray or klay snags mvp while curry still averages close to 30 a game....or kyrie could 'steal' MVP even though lebron has a great series.

That being said, if you are comparing great to great it does knock him a rung below if he finishes with say 3 rings and only 1 MVP compared to someone with 3 rings and 3 mvps

without question because he had played there forever. And in 2004, I surely didn't think Chauncey was gonna win it, solely because EVERY MVP before that time was a Superstar and at least an All Star.

So this year, I feel like Steph might get rewarded just because he has had such a huge year, and the media might have some bias in wanting him to win it. I do think it affects his legacy if he doesn't win it. I even feel like he balled SUPER HARD this year because he didn't win the Finals MVP last year...that had to sting a bit.

>And in
>2004, I surely didn't think Chauncey was gonna win it, solely
>because EVERY MVP before that time was a Superstar and at
>least an All Star.

It's not like the Pistons had a Superstar, Sheed hadn't been on the All-Star team since 2002 & Rip hadn't been an all-star at that point. Maybe Ben Wallace but it wasn't like he shutdown Shaq.

BTW, Cedric Maxwell was the '81 Finals MVP over Larry Bird & he was never an all-star at any point of his career.

I thought Paul was the most consistent but Ray had the bigger moments. Coulda gone either way.

>legacy if he doesn't win it. I even feel like he balled SUPER
>HARD this year because he didn't win the Finals MVP last
>year...that had to sting a bit.

but I think he cared AOT that people side-eyed his regular season MVP and that Harden was voted the Players Award MVP, I think that really stung him and drove him to come out and blow everyone out of the water this year.

https://twitter.com/ThompsonScribe/status/737700510996660225

https://twitter.com/TommyBeer/status/737657802156564480

https://twitter.com/ThompsonScribe/status/737659058035924992

;)

The silly criteria people always make up, good comedy.

He'd have to suck in the finals to really affect his legacy this year. If he's great and they win the title but someone else wins Finals MVP, anyone who holds it against him is nitpicking.

(which is never really my thing) those finals MVPs come into play. So like i said above somewhere if you comparing a guy with similar major accomplishments (season MVPs, rings) and one guy has 2 finals MVPs and the other guy doesn't that's a factor.

I do think how Curry played in the series is the biggest factor but 10, 20+ years from now, its going to be about the accolades.

These days though, I think its going to be more common for secondary players to grab Finals MVPS bc the teams are so stacked. There are at least 5 guys that could win the MVP this series and no one would be surprised, and thats not even counting the guy who won last year.

But to act like finals mvp is some silly non important stat is ridic, especially considering how kobe's rings are viewed by the masses.

finals MVPs

Jordan played in 6

won 6

won 6 finals MVPs

finals MVPs is a new argument

which, as per reply 18

I think is a stupid argument

because Jordan is the GOAT.

based on your post, i'm not sure what i'm wrong about...i didn't say anything about jordan lol

the idea of measuring all greats
according to benchmarks set by the current standard bearer
is not a new concept bro.

reeq deflected

comparing players is not what's new in this conversation

b4 Jordan, it was rings and MVPs.

you want to start talking finals MVPs = you're only talking about 1 guy

Steph is not the GOAT

but he will be one of the greats

carry on.

>b4 Jordan, it was rings and MVPs.
>
>you want to start talking finals MVPs = you're only talking
>about 1 guy

Kareem has as many rings as Jordan and more MVPs (all-time record of 6), so why is MJ the GOAT ahead of Kareem if not the 6 Finals MVPs?

IMO, it really is just that simple.

He nevah Lost.

>IMO, it really is just that simple.
>
>He nevah Lost.

I didn't see a lot of Cap's career

but I know he took Ls against Wilt, Moses, Parrish, etc...

Jordan dominated the NBA for that 6 year run

Think about some of the players that didn't get rings in that era

Chuck
Pat
Mailman
Etc...

Those are top 50 players

Not to mention some of the other players he matched up with along the way

Like Zeke,Magic, Bird, etc...

Without peer or rival.

"Jorn won 6 straight, which I think is safe to say at this point in his career, Bron won't

so even if he won 6 or 7, MFers like you would be on some, but but Jorn never lost..."

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2446041#2447998

Lolz. As for peers, just look at the comparisons you made: Pat and Karl vs Wilt and Moses... I mean cmon. And Jordan wasn't able to beat Bird but Kareem did twice. Kareem faced better competition and beat better rivals than Jordan did + won as many rings as MJ, but MFers like you wanna be on some, "but but Jorn never lost..."

FOH

You upping posts before last year's finals

Is just an indication of how butthurt you are for Bron

I already said, in this post, his shot @goat was dead after last year

But yes, his legacy being stats still holds

Also, you see how you made the case for Cap w/o referencing finals MVPs

= that's the f'n point

Nobody gives a fuck

(you do remember we're talking about Steph's legacy in this post...right?)

w/a GSW w this year

Back 2 Back chips and MVPs >>> Bron

w/the caveat that Steph performs at a high level for handful more seasons

you talking about you only said that 3 years ago

when you were still saying it last year

hence linking the post where you said it last year

but yeah the case for Cap w/o referencing Finals MVPs is the fucking point

which is why I asked if nobody gives a fuck about Finals MVPs

then why is Jorn automatically the undisputed GOAT

when Cap has as many rings and more NBA MVPs than MJ

AND the caliber of statistical legacy you said would give Bron a case for GOAT based on #'s

but you're so butthurt that your Bron agenda failed that you're backtracking on your own argument

and now YOU'RE the MFer who wanna be on some, "but but Jorn never lost..."

when just last year you painted that argument as irrational Bron hate

so again, FOH

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2240583&mesg_id=2240583&listing_type=search#2241344

He's still on that trajectory

I don't know how to make this more clear for you

His case for GOAT, IMO, died after last year's finals

His stats trajectory, still on pace for what I said 3 years ago

The reply you linked from last year had context

Being, even if he wins 6 or 7 that still wouldn't be enough for some based on hate

After an L in last year's finals and possibly another one this year

Yeah, Jordan never losing in 6 finals isn't going to be something he can overcome now, IMO

DATALL.

>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2240583&mesg_id=2240583&listing_type=search#2241344
>
>He's still on that trajectory
>
>I don't know how to make this more clear for you
>
>His case for GOAT, IMO, died after last year's finals
>
>His stats trajectory, still on pace for what I said 3 years
>ago

3 years ago you said Bron's stats trajectory is what his argument for GOAT is based on. if he's still on that trajectory then why are you now saying his case for GOAT died after last year's finals? which is it?


>The reply you linked from last year had context
>
>Being, even if he wins 6 or 7 that still wouldn't be enough
>for some based on hate

kinda like with Kareem. ironic.

you seem stuck

once again

that post from 3 years ago had context

and you can read the whole thing for yourself

even the reply you linked, had context, even though you copy and pasted the line you wanted to run with

I'm confident you can read the entire body for context

but I'll help you out

even if...EVEN IF...even if Bron won 6 or 7...that was the context

3 years ago, I don't think people were projecting his stats, and my original reply 3 years ago, was in a post about Cap and MJ talking down Bron's legacy, and taking shots at whether or not he belongs on Rushmore, etc...

after LAST YEAR'S finals L, I honestly don't think he will even get to 6

obviously, he could win 3 this year

but needing 3 more is a long shot IMO

I just don't see that happening now

which, IMO, will leave him shy in comparison to the GOAT

but the stats he is compiling are the GOAT

just without the rings, so again, default to MJ

I think I've explained it more than a couple of times rather explicity for you

so what is your end game?

you want me to say Cap is the GOAT?

I can't, because I didn't see the majority of his career

you want me to take an L because I defaulted to the MJ argument?

2 years later, it's true.

I would assume you didn't see the majority of Cap's career either?

so you're using his stats to make that argument

which is actually the analogy to my reply that you linked

these millenials that didn't see MJ's or Cap's career

will refer to Bron's stats, and I'd be willing to bet, they'll try to make an argument for Bron being the GOAT by comparing his stats to the other greats

but I'm out on that angle

if you want me to take an L, 2 years later, cooL

I thought this was just a continuation of the usual convos about where he may fall on the list of best shooters or best PGs of all time.

There's no other player with only two rings and two MVPs for me to compare him to, so it's hard to say at this point, lol. If he got to three MVPs, five rings, and nine All-NBA first team awards like Magic, but had fewer Finals MVPs, then sure, it'd matter. But we're obviously insanely far from that.

It's like your college admissions essays. They count, but if you have a 4.5 and you cured cancer for a non-profit in your extra-curriculars, your essays don't really mean shit unless you're being compared to another 4.5 cancer curer for the last enrollment spot.

>These days though, I think its going to be more common for
>secondary players to grab Finals MVPS bc the teams are so
>stacked. There are at least 5 guys that could win the MVP this
>series and no one would be surprised, and thats not even
>counting the guy who won last year.

I just used 2 rings bc that's where we are right now(maybe) but it makes more sense if we're talking 5 rings and 2 mvps or something like that.

My point is just that to pretend the finals mvps are completely irrelevant is silly

you've already elevated Steph into the pantheon

which is why it's a stupid argument, IMO

it's a validation, not a critique

the rest of that conversation is an exercise for people with too much time on their hands, IMO

>the rest of that conversation is an exercise for people with too much time on their hands, IMO

pre-emptive moving of the goalposts

Back 2 Back MVPs

MVP and a Chip in the same season

Put that list up

That's what Steph has done

Instead of pretending some lesser metric like finals MVPs could impact what he's done so far

= fuck out of here

Like I said, conjuring up arguments for why Steph might not be as great as he could be if he won every award is something crabs on the bottom think about

At the top we celebrate greatness

You want to compare him to the greats, make the list

We can come back after the finals and compare notes

Back 2 Back MVPs

= put up the list

MVP and Chip in the same season

= put up the list

MVP and scoring champ in the same season

= put up the list

Back 2 Back WC Champs

= put up the list

of course this all changes exponentially w/a chip this year

but you get the idea

His list of peers/early legacy already makes him one of the greats

w/o finals MVPs

Need me to explain it further for you?

me?

talk about having too much time on your hand...jeez.

Consider the peer group his early legacy already has him in

and then let me know where this rung is because he doesn't have a finals MVP

...yet...

I think you can see what a stupid argument this post is based on

being finals MVPs when everything is said and done you asshat.

that's my f'n point

Put up the list.

Finals MVPs = who gives a fuck

what the hell is wrong with you man?

until his career is over = still stupid.

asshat and doofus = cen is a Trump alias.

is a dumb argument to have?


so you basically trying to force me into an argument about something you feel is dumb in the 1st place? wow.

again, what he's done so far already puts him in a peer group of greats

debating about the impact of what he hasn't done

...yet...

= f'n stupid

Read the OP

early legacy

You hiding behind end of career assessments is a deflection.

do i have some anti-Curry agenda on these boards? if so, fill me in.

I stated my opinion on how i think the MvP finals argument will come into play. My bad if i'm not interested in arguing Curry's current status lined up against NBA greats when he just entered the 'greats' convo 12 months ago.

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It's just another way for people to cyse and argue without seeing the bigger picture.

being that the person that probably suffers the most from a Finals MVP argument is kobe.

I couldn't care less about Kobe's finals MVP's or lack thereof, I have zero problem saying Shaq was the crux of those teams bc he obviously was...in the end, those 2 were at the heart of winning 5 rings for my franchise, I don't really give a hoot about debating individual merits...no coincidence that most of the dudes who focus on that follow mediocre or shitty franchises, so that's all they got. My problem becomes when cats try to re-write history as binary with awards like finals MVP. I care about how and why the team won and criticizing a player objectively rather than trying to pile on. As I said, it's just another criteria to cyse players for agenda reasons...the whole Batman and Robin thing was created to do just that, trying to downplay success by discounting it; that's typical loser thinking in my book and something I've never done for any player or in real life.

Steph not getting Finals MVP is case in point...the beauty and strength of this W's team is their willingness to play as a team and take advantage of what a defense gives them. Last finals, that was Iggy bc he took advantage of the offensive opportunities afforded to him (as the Cavs picked him as the player they were going to rotate away from from) complemented by his stellar D, deserving of the MVP. Does that mean he was the best player in that series? If you watch how much the Cavs focus was on Steph and how much that trapping, switching, and rotating tired out Cleveland (like Delly going to the hospital for cramps), then it's pretty clear.

with laker fans but not you.

I should tap out of this convo bc comparing and ranking the greats is not even my thing...not because the knicks have such great history but bc i don't think there's a way to have a real honest debate comparing players across eras...especially a player that played when i was like 8 or something lol

most people won't care that he didn't win a Finals MVP, in fact, most people will assume he did.

i.e. who gives a fuck

if they win

he's back 2 back

and already the defending champ/back 2 back MVP

how do you even formulate a thought to question his legacy

NOW?

fans need to get off of pretending that somebody has a shot to be GOAT

they don't.

now sit back and appreciate the high degree of skill you are witnessing

they're not Jordan

and that's Okay

Player

>now sit back and appreciate the high degree of skill you are
>witnessing

We're in the middle of a pretty goddam amazing era of basketball. I'm a Dubs fan, but when KD started hitting at the end of game 7 before the GS iced it, I couldn't help but think how goddam amazing these dudes are. It was fun as hell watching some of the best players of my lifetime ball out.

I fully sports-hate Lebron for acting like a mean girl, but even then, I don't feel the need to pretend like he's anything other than a unique talent and one of the best players I've seen in my lifetime.

>fans need to get off of pretending that somebody has a shot to
>be GOAT
>
>they don't.
>
>now sit back and appreciate the high degree of skill you are
>witnessing
>
>they're not Jordan
>
>and that's Okay
>
>Player

IMO, last year was the nail in the coffin for that argument.

I had projected his stats and saw a possibility for Bron to get the points record

and be top 10 in assists and rebounds

that was my argument

If he could have pulled off the impossible last year, that agenda might have still had life,IMO

2-5, or 3-4 = NO.

>IMO, last year was the nail in the coffin for that argument.

you were still saying it last year.


>I had projected his stats and saw a possibility for Bron to
>get the points record
>
>and be top 10 in assists and rebounds
>
>that was my argument

meanwhile Kareem actually has the all-time points record, is top 3 in rebounds and blocks (and should be #1 in blocks except they were not an officially recorded stat his first 4 seasons), won a record 6 MVPs, most All-NBA selections, most All-Star games, etc.

AND has 6 rings.

not sure how that argument was supposed to work for Bron but not Kareem.

and we gotta be ready for more of this bullshit if the Cavs actually pull it off. That's the cycle. Lebron looks good - OH HE'S MJ! HE'S THE GOAT!. Things go the other way and it's an unfair comparison. FOH

I made a projection 3 years ago

with the caveat that Bron gets 6 or 7 chips

after last year's finals, I have no problem saying he doesn't have a claim to GOAT now

assuming that he won't win 3-4 more chips

and even so, he'd need to do just that to have a winning record in the finals

so that argument makes itself

my apologies if you and 40th are offended that I didn't up those posts after last year's finals, or inbox you guys to say his shot at GOAT was done IMO

however

his stats projection still holds.

the context was the stats and rings

the replies are linked

is going to dominate a huge part of his narrative, so I don't know if Finals MVPs will matter. I'm typing that assuming he and the Warriors continue to show dominance for the next 3-4 seasons.

to me, the true test of value is who did the most over the course of a season to help you win the title. that's why if GS wins, Curry is not only best player, but most valuable, as he would have done more than anyone else in the league to guarantee his team wins the chip. even if Harrison Barnes went Wade on 'em, Curry would still be your MVP.

>any impact on his early legacy
>or how he is viewed in comparison
>to the performance of ring winning greats in the finals?
>or is it completely negligible?


Nobody cares about Finals MVP with what he's already shown.
His reg seaz 3s record already solidifies him.
as well as his post-season work thus far

.

He went 4-15 G1
that means he will be 19-85 in the 4 wins
ugh

Lebron and other would be MJ clones have something to live up to. Curry is forming a mold at this point he has nothing to be measured against.

They can't afford him to struggle early like last year.

hope that changes soon

that was a little unexpected

Dray
Klay
Iggy
Livingston
Theeeeeeen S30

at his boys giving bron that work.

He threw his mouthpiece in disgust after he made a three in Game One due to the fact he was struggling then.

Outside of the missed shots, he's also turning the ball over with some sloppy passing in both games so far, so I'm sure he's not totally composed and pleased with his individual play.

>He threw his mouthpiece in disgust after he made a three in
>Game One due to the fact he was struggling then.
>
>Outside of the missed shots, he's also turning the ball over
>with some sloppy passing in both games so far, so I'm sure
>he's not totally composed and pleased with his individual
>play.



He cares because he knows to be Finals MVP he has to be on top of his game. Hitting on all cylinders. He's not doing that now. He's like 4-8 from 3pt but only has 18 pts int he game, and 8 rebs, 5 dimes?
that's not WORLD CLASS NBA PLAYER stats
that's some shit that's good for Harrison Barnes or Livingston
Maybe Draymond.
S30 knows he wants to be up around 8-15 behind the arc, 38pts, 6 rebs, 9 dimes

That's a stat line he'd like to see
That's a stat line that will earn you Finals MVP

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Midgame he's thinking about WTF my shots aint fallin???!?!?!
WTF did I just make that dumbass TO?
WT I let Krie cross me up like that? I know my ankles are brittle.

he didn't play bad. just didn't play a lot.

happy on the bench.

rest of the team goes off and they win, he'll be fine.

This ain't davidson lol

But if he could the ring ANNNND Finals MVP then he'd take that.
You think S30 wants to come out and hit 10 3ptrs in each of his last 2 games carrying the team on his back to another chip and him being the Finals MVP?

He cares.
Everybody cares.
This is what we all dream about from the time we were in Spiderman draws.

But only getting a ring and no Finals MVP ain't such a bad thing either.

He seems to be a pretty humble guy and that's why he's not complaining about his salary.

Somehow I think Curry is fine with how this has played out.

Doesn't matter who gets the individual credit. It's so refreshing, a huge testament to Marc Jackson and Steve Kerr for the type of culture that has been instilled and reinforced there.

other team double and triple teamed him all game so he just didn't shoot and went scoreless, but his teammates were open all game long and Davidson still blew them out

niggas need to know that steph gets all the way coached up offline by his mother, who's an irrevocable Type A.

(*winks at walnut creek*)

hell, look at his oral fixation. if he ain't chewing the mouthpiece, he's chewing gum. if he ain't chewing gum, he's chewing nails.

>hell, look at his oral fixation. if he ain't chewing the
>mouthpiece, he's chewing gum. if he ain't chewing gum, he's
>chewing nails.

but how is this relevant to the topic at hand? Not trying to be a jerk because maybe you know something I don't, but I've never thought of that correlating to being competitive or whatever you're getting at.

Bwahahah @ niggas like "Steph don't care"

You sound mighty mad right now

Of course Steph cares

Just ain't shit he can do about it at the moment

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The two-time MVP has never been honored as the best player in the Finals, but a record night in the Warriors’ Game 2 win has made him the clear favorite this year
By Haley O'Shaughnessy Jun 4, 2018, 1:31am EDT

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More than LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Billions, or Westworld, Sunday night belonged to Steph Curry. Game 2 of the NBA Finals, therefore, belonged to the Warriors, who slow-burned the Cavaliers before torching them altogether in a 122-103 victory.

Curry is the third-best player in the Finals—which is not a knock on him; he’s sharing the court with someone who very well could go down as one of the greatest scorers of all time and someone else who could go down as the greatest, period. But there is no answer for Curry, especially when he goes full Curry. It’s near blasphemy to watch him on the perimeter—or, on occasion, quite far behind the perimeter—hitting the deep shots that he has helped popularize around the league.

On the way to 33 points, Curry broke the record for the most 3-pointers ever made in a Finals game—his nine beat out Ray Allen’s eight with the Celtics in 2010. Curry took 17 3-point attempts to get there, which is, (a) more shots than he averaged from the entire field this regular season, and (b) more shots than any other Warrior took Sunday, from everywhere. Durant was closest, going 10-for-14 from the field. KD was far more efficient than Curry, but it was a quiet one next to Curry’s performance, literally, as Oracle exploded each time he winked at the fawning crowd.

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A Steph Game is so enjoyable that it’s easy to forget it’s also crucial. The show he puts on is unique. It’s serious business for LeBron, vengeful for Russell Westbrook, and petty for James Harden (in the best way possible). The Warriors offense depends on Curry for much more than shooting—he had eight assists, and grabbed seven of Golden State’s 41 boards, a key factor against Cleveland’s big frontcourt—but shooting is how he’ll be remembered, especially in this Finals. Curry is shooting 50 percent from 3 through two games and averaging 31 points, which puts him as an easy favorite to be named Finals MVP for the first time. “The guy is the best shooter probably in the history of the Earth,” Warriors coach Steve Kerr said postgame. (I guess the NBA wasn’t a big enough pool.)

Curry has been the lifeblood of the Warriors dynasty since its 2015 title, but he’s never been acknowledged as the best player in the Finals. Sunday night put him one step closer to being recognized as such, but it was also something of a full-circle moment from the star of the regular season. When Curry was healthy, he posted an astounding 14.7 net rating—numbers usually reserved for players at the end of the bench who have one or two moments in garbage time. When Curry wasn’t healthy, Durant, the reigning Finals MVP, didn’t slide into the position of fearless leader quite like expected. KD was inarguably fantastic in Game 2, but Curry feels, at this moment, more essential. Durant offers the steady performance on both sides of the ball that’s imperative to the Warriors’ success, whereas Curry can’t offer as much defensively. For instance, without Andre Iguodala, whose defense earned him the 2015 Finals MVP over Steph, Durant has had to guard LeBron more. But Steph brings them over the top with his ability to warp spacing and overwhelm an opponent by racking up points in short order.

The Cavs rallied in the third, but couldn’t keep it going because of Curry. He was the chaser to every Cavs shot, finishing with 16 points in the fourth quarter alone. “Nine 3s,” Kerr said, “and seemed to hit a big shot every time we needed one.” When LeBron, Kevin Love, or George Hill pulled up from deep, I might have thought: That looks good. I thought differently watching Curry’s release. He cut out the middleman: That’s good.

he couldn't even hide it. Up til they it was announced, I think he expected to win it.. lol

And that "wtf" shrug Klay gave him said it all

they won't give him the Kobe treatment but he deserves it

Curry was amazing - 28, 7, and 6. 22 3’s.

Durant was even better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xS9hvs5F7s

It's sorta weird at this point

No shame in that.

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And despite how great KD was, Steph was not far off the mark during those last two Finals. Steph should have won at least one Finals MVP out of the three Finals series they've won. I'd go so far as to say that he prolly should have shared the 2016/2017 Finals MVP with KD.

2014 - 2015:
SC - 28.3 (PPG), 5.0 (RBG), 6.4 (APG), .1 (BPG), 1.9 (SPG), 3.9 (TOV)
AI - 10.4 (PPG), 4.5 (RBG), 3.6 (APG), .3 (BPG), 1.2 (SPG), .7 (TOV)

2016 - 2017:
SC - 28.1 (PPG), 6.2 (RBG), 6.7 (APG), .2 (BPG), 2 (SPG), 3.4 (TOV)
KD - 28.5 (PPG), 7.9 (RBG), 4.3 (APG), 1.3 (BPG), .8 (SPG), 2.5 (TOV)

2017 - 2018:
SC - 25.5 (PPG), 6.1 (PBG), 5.4 (APG), .7 (BPG), 1.7 (SPG), 2.9 (TOV)
KD - 29.0 (PPG), 7.8 (RBG), 4.7 (APG), 1.2 (BPG), .7 (SPG), 2.4 (TOV)

So let him come back 3-1 and earn it.


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and if the W's do win, this will be an all timer of a Finals MVP.

nothing will ever top Magic as a rookie, but this would be in the next group down

>and if the W's do win, this will be an all timer of a Finals
>MVP.

but taken on its own, this one would be special

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Hi


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Welp

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it was a girl at the desk I should have taken a Klay-style shot at when I was there last

>it was a girl at the desk I should have taken a Klay-style
>shot at when I was there last


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had it in the plans before the V70 got T-boned