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2488475, Justise For All
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Oct-29-15 08:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QpllI4oFR4

^^^^nothing else matters


kid is the rare ultra-athletic cerebro wing player. i have no idea why his measurements and unfinished jumper scared off so many GMs. maybe MKG not becoming a superstar affected how people viewed his ceiling, but maybe names like Kawhi and Artest shoulda been at the forefront of their thoughts instead. i dunno. whatever.

i know mika dumbass was prolly sitting somewhere wondering what the hell he was thinking. some damn kaminsky. mika could scodabawl but he can't draft for shit.



2488481, HA HA HA HA HA look at Wade
Posted by Dr Claw, Thu Oct-29-15 09:03 AM
2488690, Thats sooooooooo last week basa
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Oct-29-15 01:34 PM
Stanley already did this a week ago.

https://instagram.com/p/9M4xVvIHBo/
2488691, not as good
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Oct-29-15 01:35 PM
2488704, agree. just like Jus isnt as good as Stan
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Oct-29-15 02:01 PM
2488706, there's clearly a difference in skill level and IQ
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Oct-29-15 02:08 PM
it'll click for you soon enough. you seem to know basketball.

2488693, You know my Kaminsky agenda.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Oct-29-15 01:36 PM
I'm glad Justise went where he did, because it's the perfect fit for *him.* And several teams above him will regret passing on him. He's a special player.
2488735, i know 1 that wont
Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Oct-29-15 03:23 PM
2488736, lol, I wasn't talking about you
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Oct-29-15 03:25 PM
I think Winslow is better, but I was aiming my comment more at Orlando, New York, and Charlotte.
2488744, lol i know. just my first toe dip into NBA 'genda waters
Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Oct-29-15 03:55 PM
2488696, lol
Posted by Cenario, Thu Oct-29-15 01:40 PM
maybe MKG not becoming a superstar affected how people viewed his ceiling,
2488717, dem 'bliminals!
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Thu Oct-29-15 02:37 PM
2488721, c'mon...he's a brand new 22. MKG has as much time as Giannis to pop
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Oct-29-15 02:49 PM
2488730, MKG on the Heat and I would be ELATED fam.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Thu Oct-29-15 03:05 PM
I saw nothing wrong with that comment.
2490795, You want no parts of Giannis
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Nov-04-15 12:54 AM

Stay away from positioning anyone opposite him in an
agenda war

It's a losing battle

Plus he about to make Carmelo 0.5 look like Carmelo 0.75,
so you should be on team Giannis

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2490825, i want no parts of whoever you cysing, because you a sore loser
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Nov-04-15 08:18 AM

still mad 2.5 years later.
2490826, Well damn, bro. All this cuz Black Gyro > Carmelo 0.5
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Nov-04-15 08:26 AM
>
>still mad 2.5 years later.

K said Jabari is Carmelo. Not me.

We all agree that he ain't that good, so I'm just trying
to maximize your agenda by pointing out that Giannis will
allow Jabari to play no defense and endlessly chuck, which
will be good for his numbers.

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2488788, Lol...
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Oct-29-15 06:47 PM

>i know mika dumbass was prolly sitting somewhere wondering
>what the hell he was thinking. some damn kaminsky. mika could
>scodabawl but he can't draft for shit.
2490688, At least we know Ba's government now
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Nov-03-15 09:19 PM
LMAO yo Ba you gotta admit this is the cysiest non-onion article ever written in the history of sportskind.


http://www.nba.com/heat/newsrecap/he-follows
click the link so you get all the animated gifs of Winslow not reacting LOL


here are the choice quotes


OMG he got scored on but he stayed so stoic. BAHAHAHAHHA


It’s the sort of call that can derail many rookies. They’ll feel like an established player is getting the benefit of the whistle, and they’ll react. It might be a visceral, emotional reaction. It might lead to gabbing at the officials, or blaming a teammate. More often than not, it leads to further mistakes.

But Winslow? Nothing.


What seems to separate Winslow from the pack is his mind, his unwavering stoicism on the defensive end and the fact that he actually cares.

“Whether it was in High-School, with Team USA, Duke, I always just took defense personally,” Winslow said. “There was never one person that showed me how to play defense. I think everyone can play defense, it’s about really wanting to. Some guys are more athletic of course, but you have to lock in and want to do it. Not everyone wants to do that.”

“Guys will make tough shots, guys are going to miss open shots or miss hard shots,” Winslow said. “You just got to stay even-keeled.”

And when Winslow was chasing Harden around screens a forcing him into tough, contested misses, he had the exact same reaction.

“LeBron was scoring on me, wasn’t really scoring on me, but if you look at my facial expressions on both those guys, it never really changed,” Winslow said. “Same facial expression when LeBron was scoring, the same when James was missing shots.”

OMG he stayed on the floor vs a jumpshooter!!!!

“They’re fakes, so there’s no point in leaving the ground,” Winslow said. “You just have to stay disciplined. I go for fakes a lot, but it helps when you have a guy like Dwyane in practice. You can get used to fakes from there. Just try to stay down and be the second one off the floor.”

There’s something spooky about that. Winslow isn’t on the court playing with manic energy, hopping around and waving his hands like crazy. He’s just there, waiting, expressionless. Score on him? He’s there. Miss your shot? He’s there. Silent, steady and ready, like a horror villain always walking towards his prey. The basketball version of It Follows.

AHAHHAHAHAHAH
“He looks like that. That’s his mad face, same as his happy face, I guess,” Bosh said.
2490697, you mad nobody care about third world's mike finley.
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Nov-03-15 09:42 PM
2490698, RE: you mad nobody care about third world's mike finley.
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Nov-03-15 09:53 PM
15 yr career
22-6-5 in his prime
2 time all star
Nba Champ

Mike Finley?

Cool Ill take it
2490700, cool. take it. justise better than that.
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Nov-03-15 09:56 PM
plus, third world's mike finley ain't close to that.

2490789, Metallic references intended or no?
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Wed Nov-04-15 12:50 AM
Dude is going to be very good, exactly the kind of players that's made a difference for teams in recent years.
2490824, intended
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Nov-04-15 08:17 AM
2513215, it's being talked about all over twitter. why not here?
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Jan-25-16 11:10 PM
i thought we liked basketball? seems like every bit of minutiae is mentioned daily, EXCEPT when it's my turn.

oh well.

jimmy got locked and i don't care

2585302, Carl Thomas with a gym membership is fucking HORRIBLE
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Thu Dec-29-16 10:20 PM
2585304, MKG in his FIFTH year and a trash shooter.
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Dec-29-16 10:27 PM
2585310, Yet he's never shot as bad as Justise....
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Thu Dec-29-16 10:44 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3CEml1qL7CI/hqdefault.jpg
2585313, yet, he's trash and will average single digits well into his 30s
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Dec-29-16 10:45 PM
2585319, Still better than getting paid in Cambodian plantains in his 20s
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Thu Dec-29-16 10:57 PM
2585322, he's still a fifth year afterthought who has already maxed out
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Dec-29-16 11:03 PM
2585327, 0-9. Part defense, part Justise being a stinky bag full of assholes
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Thu Dec-29-16 11:16 PM
2585330, no one cares about MKG no more. it's over.
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Dec-29-16 11:24 PM
2585358, Nah, he's still a solid contributor every night. Summer Rain tho?
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Fri Dec-30-16 09:44 AM
2585362, no one cares about him.
Posted by Basaglia, Fri Dec-30-16 09:54 AM
2585303, he is 75-204 in FGs this year. 7-35 from 3.
Posted by HecticHavoc, Thu Dec-29-16 10:26 PM
probably the worst offensive top 10 drafted player in the history of the NBA
2585305, He is 20 years old.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Dec-29-16 10:38 PM
Yes, he is presently a bad shooter. Scoring .9 points per shot. That's bad.

Though it's worth noting that Mario Hezonja, from the same draft, taken 3 spots above Winslow, is currently doing .87 points per shot. Also bad. (Especially since his rep coming into the draft was as a shooter.)

But Winslow is 20 and Hezonja is 21. I'm not convinced either will be the worst ever at anything. Austin Rivers was called the worst player in the NBA by plenty because he couldn't shoot at age 19/20, and now, at age 24, he shoots over 40% from 3. *shrug*
2585312, if you're going to hide behind his age, he should pass more w that shitty shot
Posted by HecticHavoc, Thu Dec-29-16 10:45 PM
aint nothing fixing that broke ass form
2585318, he does pass a lot...who making shots for them?
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Dec-29-16 10:56 PM

only so many lobs to whiteside he can throw.
2585334, He shot over 40% from 3 in college.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Dec-29-16 11:42 PM
And it's not like he rarely shot.

Shit is not good now... but the potential is there, you can see it in how he shot at Duke. It's not like he's *never* shot the ball well-- I loved watching him shoot at Duke.

And it's not "hiding behind his age." I feel like this entire board shits far too early on young players before seeing what they can be. If he's still shooting like this ages 21, 22, then I'll be right there with you.
2585344, Maybe he should re-enroll.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Fri Dec-30-16 08:41 AM
2585356, That's gotta hurt, Frank.
Posted by Numba_33, Fri Dec-30-16 09:38 AM
You set him up so perfectly for that one.
2585380, Nah, this pro shit is between him and Ba.
Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Dec-30-16 11:14 AM
I want my dudes to succeed, but end of the day, Justise is a champion. So is Singler. Nothing that happens to them next level will really change how I look at them.

I just think all of these posts that paint young players as busts are pointless. All of them, no matter the team. I've harped on this for years now. When a kid enters the league at 19 or 20, you won't know for a couple of years just who they're going to be. Some are more raw than others. But I refuse to call a kid who can't yet drink a bust.
2585424, Lmao
Posted by guru0509, Fri Dec-30-16 02:04 PM
>
2585382, Wasn't he supposed to be more nba ready than porzingis.
Posted by Cenario, Fri Dec-30-16 11:16 AM
was better equipped to help the knicks win now?
2585386, that's what was said.
Posted by Basaglia, Fri Dec-30-16 11:21 AM
2585394, I'd never seen Porzingis play.
Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Dec-30-16 11:41 AM
But yes, I thought Justise's shooting would be better than it is today.

I think his defense, positional rebounding, etc are all strong for his age, for the record. But the shot is very obviously worse than it was in college and needs correction.
2585401, okay cool...fair.
Posted by Cenario, Fri Dec-30-16 12:15 PM
2585403, doesnt find a way to do much on offense
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Fri Dec-30-16 12:17 PM
as far as dat zingis, obviously no one had seen him much but the little that was out there showed a very promising player. anybody bashing him was just euro bashing, thinking about nikoali tskitishivilleicicicicic or someone.
2585307, Yeah Pat fucked up with that one.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Thu Dec-29-16 10:40 PM
2585326, him and Singler are both shooting 36%
Posted by HecticHavoc, Thu Dec-29-16 11:13 PM
it is hilarious seeing who is shooting better and being more efficient than the above mentioned SFs.

PJ TUCKER IS PLAYING BETTER LOLOLOL
2585328, I am still a believer.
Posted by theeraser, Thu Dec-29-16 11:17 PM
2585355, He sorry as a mutha. The End.
Posted by Beezo, Fri Dec-30-16 09:37 AM
2585360, I'm just glad we've established shooting %'s matter
Posted by Basaglia, Fri Dec-30-16 09:49 AM

i can use this.

a 20 year-old SF with 11/4/5 averages and plus-defending can be "sorry" because of poor shooting.

as usual, y'all get mad enough to give me an opening.

this will be used on simmons, by the way.

and i'll be the problem.
2585368, Lmao...when your guy has nothing to hang his hat on, Yes it matters.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Fri Dec-30-16 10:08 AM
Take this L and go back to the drawing board.

And don't get mad when I cut and paste the same arguments for that bust Brandon Ingram.
2585371, Wall not a good playoff performer because he shoots 38%
Posted by Basaglia, Fri Dec-30-16 10:13 AM
2585390, But he wins and leads his team to the playoffs. Boxed in huh?
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Fri Dec-30-16 11:29 AM
2585392, yeah...i'll let Ky punch my way out...with his ring on.
Posted by Basaglia, Fri Dec-30-16 11:33 AM

http://giphy.com/gifs/l0HlRtycgPrUCdNBe/fullscreen

dummy.
2585399, You mean Bron carry Ky out the ring like Macho Man did Queen Elizabeth
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Fri Dec-30-16 11:58 AM
2585400, If NBA were Glengarry Glen Ross, Wall is Jack Lemon to Ky Spacey
Posted by Basaglia, Fri Dec-30-16 12:08 PM
Ky closes.
2585419, Kyrie is Mac from "Mac & Me" an offbrand ET getting carried
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Fri Dec-30-16 01:55 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/5d81b6d8886072656978156d85c8af64/tumblr_mlqolmhIKW1qedb29o1_500.gif

Gtfoh with your fake ass Robert Horry
2585421, Wall is Tyrin Turner in Belly, not liking his team or every man contract
Posted by Basaglia, Fri Dec-30-16 01:59 PM
.
2585425, haha. you tanked that, young.
Posted by dula dibiasi, Fri Dec-30-16 02:06 PM
dat al was the closer.
2585428, that's fine. as long as wall is lemmon.
Posted by Basaglia, Fri Dec-30-16 02:10 PM
knew i shoulda checked.
2585370, yeesh, so glad the knicks didn't take him over zingis.
Posted by Cenario, Fri Dec-30-16 10:09 AM
if that happened, him and jeannie prolly still engaged.
2585402, was that even a possibility?
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Fri Dec-30-16 12:15 PM
i liked him a lot but didn't see him going ahead of zingis, mudiay or cauley stein. hezonja i didnt know enough about to say.
2585404, knicks got killed for taking porzingis over justise.
Posted by dula dibiasi, Fri Dec-30-16 12:18 PM
killed.

every team from 4 thru 9 did.

i remember that shit vividly. i knew that was a cyse from day 1.

and i like justise.
2585409, right, on the boards and off people didn't want to take the chance
Posted by Cenario, Fri Dec-30-16 12:41 PM
on waiting on porzingis to develop bc winslow was so supposed to be nba ready right now.

Hell, porzingis got booed vociferously at the draft in ny.

Little kids were crying their eyes out.
2585427, Shit, they got killed for taking him PERIOD, lol.
Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Dec-30-16 02:09 PM
I still remember those boos. One of the all-time great draft boos.

But yeah, at the time, Winslow was the hotter pick-- but shit, I think if they'd taken any of the next couple non-Euros selected, they wouldn't have heard boos like that. Too many flashbacks to tall goofy named melanin-free Euro busts happening in that room that day.
2585433, yep i was scared of that pick....but at the same time, i heard scouts
Posted by Cenario, Fri Dec-30-16 02:30 PM
saying that he would be best player in 5 years out of that draft...it just took time. So i was okay with the pick, but yeah i was scared he wouldn't fit in ny.

but once i heard this interview...i was geeked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwfnZKOr1Bc

2627180, Who is Josh Richardson?
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Oct-23-17 07:46 PM
2628877, ?
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Nov-05-17 05:48 PM
2628881, what a great player!!!
Posted by Basaglia, Sun Nov-05-17 05:53 PM
2628908, He's so trash. His jumpers feel like they have no chance to be made.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Sun Nov-05-17 07:07 PM
2628917, great young player coming back from injury...wonderful starter
Posted by Basaglia, Sun Nov-05-17 07:47 PM
2628980, He had the same amount of fouls as all of his other stats combined.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Mon Nov-06-17 12:44 AM
And that was his first start. Lmao... he's some bullshit.
2628990, wonderful starter
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Nov-06-17 07:37 AM

nice watching you go back and forth between BI and justise. LMAO. it's cool. justise will be fine.
2628953, Stanley flourishing for a winner
Posted by cgonz00cc, Sun Nov-05-17 09:49 PM
Justise gonna miss the playoffs from the bench
2628956, lol
Posted by Basaglia, Sun Nov-05-17 09:57 PM
2628962, Justise starting now.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Nov-05-17 10:22 PM
Went into the starting lineup today, got a road win over the Clippers.

*mulls this over, strokes beard, looks for patterns*
2628981, Lmao... started today.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Mon Nov-06-17 12:45 AM
2628984, Recovery from injury sucks.
Posted by Frank Longo, Mon Nov-06-17 01:52 AM
Takes a while.

Hope now he can stay healthy.
2628985, He's been healthy for months. And he's been not good since draft day.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Mon Nov-06-17 02:04 AM
2629106, Missing an entire season at age 20 is obviously bad for development.
Posted by Frank Longo, Mon Nov-06-17 02:11 PM
And he himself admitted that he's struggling to find a rhythm after missing so much time.

Him putting up 6 and 5 as a 19-year-old his first season didn't bother me, re: your other claim.
2629111, Him being shitty is also bad for his development.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Mon Nov-06-17 02:26 PM
You can try to wedge his age into every single plea if you want. He's some shit.
2629217, lol
Posted by guru0509, Tue Nov-07-17 08:21 AM
2628999, He started because Dion didn’t play
Posted by DJR, Mon Nov-06-17 08:57 AM


2629107, IT COUNT!
Posted by Frank Longo, Mon Nov-06-17 02:11 PM
lol
2629228, LMAO
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Nov-07-17 10:22 AM
2629559, Dion is back and Justise is still starting, btw. Just for posterity.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Nov-09-17 01:05 AM
2629568, PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!!!!
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Nov-09-17 07:11 AM
2628957, Racist niggas wanted him over zingis
Posted by Cenario, Sun Nov-05-17 10:05 PM
Just like the racist ones who wanted Felton over lin.

We gotta do better.
2629101, Kuzma better...
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Mon Nov-06-17 01:32 PM
2629570, Kaminsky better
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Nov-09-17 07:51 AM
http://www.mediaoutrage.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Michael-Jordan-smile.jpg
2634769, damn...
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Dec-21-17 05:51 PM
>http://www.mediaoutrage.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Michael-Jordan-smile.jpg
2634799, Too many Urkels on your team, that's why your Wins-low
Posted by okayplayery, Fri Dec-22-17 03:05 AM
2670020, RE: Beefing with Mr. Heat
Posted by Castro, Sun Aug-05-18 03:22 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/justise-winslow-says-animosity-tension-160003416.html
2670024, Scrubs shouldn’t be allowed to have beef.
Posted by Beezo, Sun Aug-05-18 04:42 PM
2670044, Pretty much. Nobody cares about who or what you don’t like.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Mon Aug-06-18 10:13 AM
Developmental 8th man on the Heat.