I made a thread about them both being HOF'ers a while back and people poo-pooed it but looking at the established standards, yes, they are both in. People just don't realize what a load KJ was to handle in his prime. He was like a skinny ass version of Russy.

It's hard to compare him to Magic and Stockton IMHO, but he was their peer for a bit and on the heels of that Hardaway really took his game to another level. Too bad neither of their knees held up.