Right today.

Just wanted to get a general sense of what it would take for wessy to surpass durant. No he isn't better now - but if he kept this play up he'd be a leading MVP candidate.

He's shooting 50% getting to the hole, and this year he's hitting those impossible to block pullups that everyone hates from the elbow and midrange at a high rate.

He's avging 26 7 and 6 in under 30 mpg.

So theoretically if he kept this up could he move up to #2 and knock durant allllll the way down to #3a with Anthony Davis or are we just gonna say no matter what it's always gonna be impossible.

Poll question: Voldy > Durant

Poll result (2 votes) Impossible- will never happen. Players come in at a certain level and stay that way. (0 votes) Vote Impossible- it's Voldy dog. (0 votes) Vote Impossible- just impossible (0 votes) Vote Waaah waaah sample size! (2 votes) Vote

And said nobody else claimed him and how this was all yours.

you're using the nickname i gave him 5 years ago and you were right with everyone else partying when rose won MVP and i took heavy fire from bulls nation for still maintaining that the award ain't prove he was better than russy.

like, dementia runs in my family and i ain't THAT old yet, but i SWEAR i have the best memory of anyone on this board. i swear i do.

Please show me where I partied off a rose MVP.

i'm sorry i can't show you a 4 year-old rose-MVP, russy v. rose agenda thread tho.

He has the talent to be as good as PRIME Wade if he had a better Bball IQ.

At the same stage of his career as Russy, Baron in 2003-4 was basically the MVP of the league before he picked up a debilitating back injury midseason & lost his mojo. People also forget that he went toe-to-toe w/ T-Mac & beat the Magic w/o Mashburn in the 2002 postseason. When he was focused & healthy there was nobody that could check him as everyone witnessed in 2007.

>At the same stage of his career as Russy, Baron in 2003-4 was
>basically the MVP of the league before he picked up a
>debilitating back injury midseason & lost his mojo. People

if by "basically" you mean "not really"

>also forget that he went toe-to-toe w/ T-Mac & beat the Magic
>w/o Mashburn in the 2002 postseason.

who *didn't* beat T-Mac in the playoffs?

>When he was focused &
>healthy there was nobody that could check him as everyone

so basically, almost never.


p.s. you know what "nm" means, right?

>if by "basically" you mean "not really"
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2003-11-25/sports/0311250140_1_baron-davis-heat-guard

>who *didn't* beat T-Mac in the playoffs?
I stated he beat the MAGIC & went toe-to-toe w/ T-Mac...T-Mac isn't the entire team even though he might as well have been. Baron is the only player that I could remember of dueling w/ pre-injury T-Mac to a draw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfVxMYsKwlg

>so basically, almost never.
Oh so you must be one of those holocaust deniers...he outplayed Dirk during his MVP season, enough said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vf2Z_gPaFo

>p.s. you know what "nm" means, right?
I had to tease you w/ it but I guess you can't handle the facts.

>>if by "basically" you mean "not really"
>http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2003-11-25/sports/0311250140_1_baron-davis-heat-guard

http://www.adventureswithwords.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/november-calendar.jpg


>>who *didn't* beat T-Mac in the playoffs?
>I stated he beat the MAGIC & went toe-to-toe w/ T-Mac...T-Mac
>isn't the entire team even though he might as well have been.

oh so now it's about the entire team not just the individual - how convenient.


>Oh so you must be one of those holocaust deniers...he

they were nazis, dude?

>outplayed Dirk during his MVP season, enough
>said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vf2Z_gPaFo

yeah Baron could put together a nice run here and there but he didn't keep up that same 'tensity day in & day out like Westbrook does.

>oh so now it's about the entire team not just the individual -
>how convenient.
WTF are you talking about? Baron played T-Mac even & the Hornets beat the Magic b/c the Hornets' role players were relatively better than the Magic's role players. I brought up the individual performances b/c we are talking about whether or not Baron Davis was as good as another individual, Russy.

>yeah Baron could put together a nice run here and there but he
>didn't keep up that same 'tensity day in & day out like
>Westbrook does.
Except Westbrook going a 100mph doesn't me shyt if he doesn't put it to good use. His impact on the game defensively is miniscule even though he has all the tools & motor to be a terror on the defense. He also has the ability to get into the paint whenever he wants but he rather jack up shots from outside the paint. Basically, he isn't channeling his intensity & putting it to good use but rather he is actually hurting his team by being reckless. Baron was a lazy muphucka but when he turned it up he was just as hard to deal w/ as Russy & he actually had a higher Bball IQ than Russy will ever possess.

U always pick the 6'11 dude that can shoot from anywhere over the player under 6'4 no matter how explosive they r....

Dog...I was old enough to remember Brad Sellers.....Chill...

>

His admin has done a good deal of injecting a sense of pride and fun into one of the old Rust Belt burnouts. Actually think he's from there.

(he'd average 0.0)

loom large by comparison.

kobe averaging 5 apg this season

>kobe averaging 5 apg this season

He isn't crying, you're just lying

What I mean is, Lebron is the best.
Durant is like 1A. But right today - consensus would be LBJ still
best player in the L.

If Lebron slips enough next year - then kd will be labeled best player in NBA.

Say Lebron holds on to that title another year and then takes a slight
dip and is say the third or fourth best player in the league...

will AD23 have surpassed kd and is considered the best player in the world?

Could happen.

kd could be the best player ever to never be the best player ever.

His prime overlapped w/ the PRIME Jorn/Hakeem/Malone/Barkley era.

Jebuzz dude was out there looking like the drunk version of Manu during crunch time. They need to take the ball out of his hands if they are leading.

Westbrook: "When we won eight in a row nobody said nothing about not passing so I don't want to hear it now."

> Westbrook: "When we won eight in a row nobody said
>nothing about not passing so I don't want to hear it now."

>> Westbrook: "When we won eight in a row nobody
>said
>>nothing about not passing so I don't want to hear it now."


No worries...Russy will get his chance to have his own team. He can shoot as much as he wants then....That said...the kid has been balling....

that's who he is. and it's a good thing.

gotta take the bueno with the malo, tú sabe?

http://dailythunder.com/2014/12/russell-westbrook-says-he-needs-to-shoot-fewer-3s/

Part of what’s made Russell Westbrook season thus far so exceptional, is he’s picking his spots maybe better than ever. He’s shooting a career-high from the field, because he’s shooting better shots.

He’s taking fewer long 2s, he’s attacking the basket more often (and finishing), he’s getting to the free throw line, and he’s taking fewer 3s.

But he still wants to sharpen his shot selection up even more. In a rare moment of self-awareness, Westbrook admitted Monday at practice he wants to trim down his 3-point attempts.

“I need to stop taking as many as I’m taking, to tell you the truth,” he said. “I’m going to take those down as the season goes along.”

Westbrook, who has actually reduced the number of 3s he’s attempting this season to 3.4 per game down from a career-high 4.7 last season, said despite lowering his 3-point shots already, he wants to be more selective with them.

“It’s not always a great shot for myself or my team. So I’ve got to do a better job of taking those out,” he said. “My advantage is attacking, regardless of who’s in front of me. That’s my advantage. And I’ve got to use my advantage to help my team and help myself.”

Relevant: Westbrook’s first 11 games this season, he took a total of 31 3s, hitting 11 of them. His last three games, he’s taken 17, hitting just three. He’s lost grip on his shot selection a bit, getting carried away to fire away from deep. Some have been good looks he’s missed. Others have been completely forced.

“I thought he took maybe two or three too many last night,” Scott Brooks said. “The ones when his feet are set, those are ones all our guys can make. The ones behind screens off the dribble, those are tough shots.

“But his shot selection for the month of December since he’s been back has been good. He’s been shooting at a high percentage.”

Last season, I talked to Westbrook about why he was taking more, and this is what he said:

“If somebody goes under, I’ll shoot it. Gotta make ‘em honest,” Westbrook said. “Obviously they’d rather me do that than drive to the basket, but if they keep doing that, they’re gonna learn.

“There’s no need to take long 2s,” he said. “If you’re going to take a 2, you might as well take a step back and shoot a 3. It’s a better percentage if you just back up a step or if you go in a step instead of taking a long 2. It’s a bad shot.”

In terms of long 2s, Westbrook has cut those out almost entirely. This season, he’s taken only one — ONE! — shot longer than 20 feet that wasn’t a 3. From mid-range, he’s been spectacular, hitting 52 percent (26-of-50) of his shots between 16 and 24 feet. Essentially, Westbrook is at his best either getting to the rim, or backing his defender off enough to pull up from the free throw line extended.

Still: What about the final four minutes against the Pelicans where he literally didn’t pass a single time and went 0-of-6 from the floor, which included three 3s. Westbrook still didn’t want to discuss what went wrong saying after watching film is was about “execution,” but did admit there were possibly some quick shots in there.

He also gave an unusual long answer when asked about what factors into his decision-making down the stretch. Let the tape roll:

“Depends how the game is going, he said. “Depends what’s working, depends on what’s worked throughout the game. You have to see the flow of the game. You have to actually watch the game and know what’s going on, know what sets is being ran, know what plays is being ran, know who’s guarding who, know who’s a bad defender, know who’s not a bad defender, know who’s slow, know who’s fast, know who’s not smart. There’s a lot of things you have to take into consideration.

“And I think it’s very important people understand the game, not just the stats,” he continued. “You have to honestly understand the game, understand what’s going on throughout the game. Lotta people don’t watch the game unless it’s on TV. So if you don’t watch our games, you don’t know what’s exactly what’s going on. You may turn the game on in the fourth quarter and say, ‘Oh, shit, what’s going on?’ Make sure you watch the first quarter and see what’s working for us. Watch the second quarter. Watch the third quarter. If you don’t know personnel, you don’t know anything. So I think it’s very important people know exactly each individual player what’s going on throughout the game.”

Westbrook said a lot to really say very little there. I think he’s trying to pull a “WATCH THE GAMES” thing here, but he clearly is not over the he-didn’t-pass theme from last night. Westbrook was combative as usual, giving terse answers about who the Blazers might guard him with, about his quarter-by-quarter production and basically whatever else he was asked about.

Either way, Westbrook has been splendid so far this season, and seems to realize what’s got him there. He may not have passed, and he may have taken some bad shots. But he’s aware of it all, at least. And willing to change.