>>We gave up too much for Cutler.
>>
>>Those 2 first rounders
>>
>
>One of those picks would have been used on a QB, make no
>mistake.
>
The first year, no...the QB drop off was immense. They would have probably gone with Oher to give Orton some protection and got another QB via freeagency or later round.



>>Kyle Orton
>>
>>I just watched Orton manage to manage a team with not even
>>half the talent we have on offense to a better record.
>>
>
>Bills have a 100X better defense, a better oline and are not
>that far off in terms of receivers.
>
>I mean, anyone can do what you are doing. I watched Jay Cutler
>"lead" a team with a fraction of the "talent we have now" to
>the NFCCG just a couple years ago.
>
>Without context it's not saying much. And all this offensive
>talent everyone constantly harps on is more myth than reality.
>MArshall injured all year, Jeffery 1 great year in 3 years in
>the league, Bennett a good player but not elite or anything.
>Forte a good multipurpose back but we dont run. And the oline
>is below average. No depth at receiver, so the slot position
>has been a turnstile.
>
>There is talent on this offense to some degree sure, but
>people act like this is the Aikman's Cowboys or something.
>

GTFOH, folks was nutting up over Jeffrey and Marshall and Forte was a top 3 back a year ago. We ran last yet right...well mostly with McCown at QB I guess.

Context is what I am talking about. Last season Cutler had a struggling D or shall I say Cutler/McCown and their offense looked very promising while the D not so much. This season the D has been more aggressive but also secondary was shitty and injuries so we are doing much worse with Cutler at the helm all season (yet he shoulders no blame?)

When our D was great, Cutler could march any bumblefucks at WR to the playoffs it seems...

Context

D>O



>>All of the moves Bears fans were against this past offseason
>>had to be done, why...
>>
>>...because these idiots made him the highest paid QB in the
>>entire league.
>>
>>You can't afford a defense.
>
>This is just patently false. We spent a grip of money on
>defense! Seriously, in all honesty, do you follow this team at
>all?
>
>Jared Allen
>Lamarr Houston
>Willie Young
>Ryan Mundy
>DJ Williams
>J. Ratliff
>
>All got contracts this offseason, with the top two three guys
>pulling in some significant cash. They tried to get Michael
>Bennett off the HAwks but he took less money to stay in
>Seattle. How many free agents were they going to sign??
>
>We can disagree but lets not make shit up.




WASTED MONEY G

They could have got Willie Young (by far the most productive of the bunch) for pennies and STILL kept Peppers. It was Emery who thought Peppers was washed up so instead of giving him 18 mill, you spend that same 18 million on Houston and Allen??? the rest of that trash is just trash, though Ratliff is decent but old and I would have preferred Melton...

don't ever question my Bears fandom again btw.

We passed up on top FA secondary players (our MAIN need) because they wanted to take chances on the D line and shifting money over.

no way you can tell me if they just give McCown 4-5 million or some other game manager 4-5 million for a year or two and have another 10-15 million to play with, they wouldn't have been a player for a Jarius Byrd or Vontae Davis TJ Ward Aquib Talib...

they overspent on scraps, or shifted the Peppers and Hester money over.


>
>>This offense is paid to score. The dumb Bears fans were the
>>ones who wanted Lovie gone...Urlacher gone and wanted some
>>pretty offense for their fantasy points.
>>
>
>Doesn't refer to me so okay
>
>>
>>I'm a Bears fan and I'm happy with us winning every single
>>game 7-0 or 3-0 and shutting out teams.
>>
>>We could have easily.....EASILY kept Kyle Orton and drafted
>>Clay Matthews or Michael Over in 09 and Dez Bryant in 2010
>and
>>been in a better position than we are now.
>>
>>But noooo.
>
>Have you paid attention to how this team has drafted over the
>last decade, especially under the guy you think would have
>turned the picks we used on Cutler into gold of some kind?
>
>I'm guessing you haven't
>
you talking about the guy who drafted Briggs, Tillman, Knox, Hester, Forte, Harris, Orton...that guy?




>And if you think Lovie would still be coaching here if Orton
>had been the QB, you are tripping.
>
>They would have drafted a QB, blown the other pick and we all
>know this.
>
>By the way, Clay Matthews is a 3-4 OLB, highly doubt Lovie
>would have any use for that in his scheme.
>

Clay would be no worse than Hunter Hillenmeyer at LB and unfortunately Gaines Adams passed away that next offseason when they tried to trade for him which would have helped on the D Line.

I am not saying Clay would have been an automatic pic...he was there, but Oher would have been a nice look.

They Bears in 2009 weren't a horrible team. At all.

Now...we are horrible with the highest paid QB.

Bears so-called fans got what they wanted.




>That said, it's okay to disagree about should we have got
>Cutler to begin with. It was a gamble. That said, Cutler isn't
>at what is wrong with this team right today.


Cutler is what's wrong.

is he the only thing wrong...no...

but now we are stuck.