i am trying to understand what you are getting at.

When did Gruden say he was lazy? i heard him say that Griff is not at the park all of the time. lazy and not last one to leave are different. i dont think anyone would claim that griff doesnt get himself in the best physical shape he can. whether or not he is studying the most film he could is a different story.

We've heard stories of Kirk staying after practice to get throws in. Not that it helped him make better decisions - but maybe bob could be doing more of that.