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2254617, Thursday night bball - b/w of Rose's sore body.
Posted by Cenario, Thu Oct-31-13 11:26 AM
Derrick Rose missed the morning shootaround and is a game-time decision for Thursday's Knicks game.

This news would be relatively benign other than the fact that coach Tom Thibodeau indicated that Rose missed the shootaround due to his "body" rather than his knee. That cryptic distinction could very well mean that Rose needs some rest after not playing all the entire 2012-13 season, but this is a situation we'll be monitoring very closely in case there is anything more serious at play.
2254627, updated to sore neck...rose says he's fine.
Posted by Cenario, Thu Oct-31-13 11:41 AM
2254634, @nyknicks: Which team is the Knicks biggest rival?
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Thu Oct-31-13 11:48 AM
https://twitter.com/desusnice/status/369490848603308034
2254834, For a team no one expects anything from we have a lot of enemies
Posted by subjctmattr, Thu Oct-31-13 06:07 PM
Damn, why don't other teams just leave us alone and lets us:

Not make the playoffs ala Shaq.
Be the 5 seed ala every NBA pundit alive.
Be under.500 ala the ESPN rankings.
2254835, that was a Knick fan who wrote that, stop crying
Posted by Bombastic, Thu Oct-31-13 06:09 PM
>Damn, why don't other teams just leave us alone and lets us:
>
>Not make the playoffs ala Shaq.
>Be the 5 seed ala every NBA pundit alive.
>Be under.500 ala the ESPN rankings.
2254828, Bulls should win.
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Thu Oct-31-13 05:47 PM
Knicks on a 2nd night of a back to back.
At the United Center.
Rose's first regular season game at home.
Plus Bulls have a very high win percentage after losses.

Yeah, I'd be surprised if we lost this one.
2254833, lets do this shump
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Oct-31-13 06:02 PM
2254839, RE: Thursday night bball - b/w of Rose's sore body.
Posted by RandomFact, Thu Oct-31-13 06:15 PM
K.C. Johnson ‏@KCJHoop
DRose listed as a starter.
2254852, so the knicks are just conceding shots at the rim, huh?
Posted by themaddfapper, Thu Oct-31-13 07:27 PM
2254853, Knicks with the pumpkin chumpies on
Posted by Beezo, Thu Oct-31-13 07:29 PM
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2254856, boozer out there making stat look 46
Posted by themaddfapper, Thu Oct-31-13 07:40 PM
2254861, stat out there looking like an over the hill moses malone
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Oct-31-13 07:44 PM
2254859, yeah, about those defensive questions.
Posted by themaddfapper, Thu Oct-31-13 07:42 PM
2254865, fucking bargnani.
Posted by themaddfapper, Thu Oct-31-13 07:50 PM
2254871, so many goddamn layups
Posted by themaddfapper, Thu Oct-31-13 08:08 PM
2254872, I'm gonna try to give bitch height Bargnani some slack
Posted by subjctmattr, Thu Oct-31-13 08:10 PM
I'm gonna reserve my hatred until probably the end of November.

I have proof the guy can score. I'm gonna try give him a while before I truly hate him.

And I hope the Garden doesn't give him Charles Smith treatment, because that's not gone help him.
2254874, that's your folk. you betta hope he gets right
Posted by themaddfapper, Thu Oct-31-13 08:20 PM
cause he's not going anywhere.

2254877, NO NO NO he's not my folk....I hate jump shooting big men
Posted by subjctmattr, Thu Oct-31-13 08:30 PM
But we got him for Novak, who is only 1 inch shorter and never pulled up.

at least with bitch Height Bargs we have proof that he can score in this league.

I'll give him some time unlike other Knick fans who think 6 quarters is enough.

2254881, novak was a specialist paid 4m a year
Posted by themaddfapper, Thu Oct-31-13 08:38 PM
bargs is a former lotto pick (let alone #1, lol) who makes 10m+

he hasn't been good in 3 years.

he's got 2 weeks. but nothing I've seen suggests he'll ever be what they paid for.
2254888, The money Bargs is making was already spent..
Posted by subjctmattr, Thu Oct-31-13 08:52 PM
The only way you can make a trade is if the salaries match. So Novak or Bargs, we were spending that money regardless. It was on the books regardless.

SO

Since the money was already spent the salary Bargs is making is not as important a the production you get for it, and the expiration date of the contract.

Novak at his best is one dimensional, we know what he is is and everyone knows/knew how to neutralize him.

Bitch Height Bargs at his best is a match up problem that can create his own shot and put the ball on the floor. At least he's gonna shoot, Novak would pass up shot and couldn't think about creating his own shot.

The Knicks took a chance to get more production for the money. If it works it works, great...if it doesn't it expires when everyone else does anyway.
2254953, lmao
Posted by Cenario, Thu Oct-31-13 11:04 PM

>
>The Knicks took a chance to get more production for the money.
>If it works it works, great...if it doesn't it expires when
>everyone else does anyway.
2254873, These announcers going H.A.M. on the Knicks...damn all that hate
Posted by subjctmattr, Thu Oct-31-13 08:13 PM
2254875, Rose's jumper.
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Thu Oct-31-13 08:26 PM
It was there in preseason.
Hasn't found it in the last 6Qs.
I think he will eventually.

Loving Butler getting his hands on passes.

Wish Boozer would take advantage of Melo guarding him.
2254883, Back to back tre balls
Posted by Beezo, Thu Oct-31-13 08:40 PM
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2254879, I guess Kenny cant take a joke, smh
Posted by Starks dunked on Bulls, Thu Oct-31-13 08:32 PM
2254885, This new delay of game shit is gonna cost somebody a big game
Posted by Beezo, Thu Oct-31-13 08:46 PM
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2254892, Come playoff time they won't be calling it anymore
Posted by subjctmattr, Thu Oct-31-13 09:07 PM
Like they won't be calling the BS picks they called on Bitch Height Bargs, or the BS walk they called on Melo
2255002, Come game 30, no one will be doing it
Posted by LA2Philly, Fri Nov-01-13 02:03 AM
2254886, bargs w/ 3 buckets, but no weakside help on the butler postup.
Posted by themaddfapper, Thu Oct-31-13 08:49 PM
even if he scores, he'll never matter enough where it counts for it to matter.
2254891, We just got completely screwed on that no clear path
Posted by subjctmattr, Thu Oct-31-13 09:06 PM
Why stop our fast break?
then call that BS for Kirk for a 3 point play.
2254894, The Knicks are dreadful. Just awful.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Oct-31-13 09:09 PM

As in, really bad.
2254897, Dude we're down 7 with 10 minutes in the game...
Posted by subjctmattr, Thu Oct-31-13 09:15 PM
On the 2nd night of a back to back without the reigning 6th man of the year.

Let people tell it we're getting blown by 40.
2254898, i see what you did there. well done.
Posted by themaddfapper, Thu Oct-31-13 09:20 PM
2254896, O Boards Bargs!
Posted by themaddfapper, Thu Oct-31-13 09:13 PM
2254901, that chandler backtap, boy.
Posted by themaddfapper, Thu Oct-31-13 09:34 PM
man rose better get "right" soon. he ain't scoring 25 a night....I dunno.
2254902, Fock they came back ..Hardaway jr =shae Davis
Posted by JAESCOTT777, Thu Oct-31-13 09:34 PM
2254903, Bulls are gonna miss those 2 late game assassins they let walk
Posted by rjc27, Thu Oct-31-13 09:36 PM
Bellinelli and Nate were real clutch often last year in these games, now the offense is crap if rose doesnt do everything
2254904, the confusing thing about the overwhelming knick hate lately is,a 54
Posted by rjc27, Thu Oct-31-13 09:37 PM
win team got better, and people started predicting like 44 wins... I have not gotten that... why shouldnt this team at least win 50?


<< Started From The Bottom

@rob_starrk
2254905, Tyson Chandler arguing that? Blatant push in the back
Posted by rjc27, Thu Oct-31-13 09:38 PM

<< Started From The Bottom

@rob_starrk
2254906, Wow..just wow at that BS call
Posted by subjctmattr, Thu Oct-31-13 09:38 PM
2254917, now we even TC got a BS call too
Posted by subjctmattr, Thu Oct-31-13 09:49 PM
2254908, damn D-Rose, Nate Rob hits a 15 foot jumper there last year
Posted by rjc27, Thu Oct-31-13 09:39 PM

<< Started From The Bottom

@rob_starrk
2254909, goddamnit. good intention by melo.
Posted by themaddfapper, Thu Oct-31-13 09:43 PM
2254913, nobody was expecting him to pass there, f'd up his own teammate
Posted by rjc27, Thu Oct-31-13 09:45 PM

<< Started From The Bottom

@rob_starrk
2254954, chandler stay dropping those passes
Posted by Cenario, Thu Oct-31-13 11:07 PM
2254910, wtf is rose doing? the 3 is open all around the court
Posted by select_from_where, Thu Oct-31-13 09:43 PM
2254916, I agree with Kerr. Flow and pace of the game all fucked up now
Posted by Beezo, Thu Oct-31-13 09:46 PM
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2254918, M-V-P
Posted by select_from_where, Thu Oct-31-13 09:50 PM
2254919, derrick fucking rose.
Posted by themaddfapper, Thu Oct-31-13 09:50 PM
2254920, Melo time.. high pick and roll.
Posted by Beezo, Thu Oct-31-13 09:50 PM
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2254922, dammit. dammit dammit dammit.
Posted by themaddfapper, Thu Oct-31-13 09:52 PM
2254923, *climbs in the pulpit*
Posted by select_from_where, Thu Oct-31-13 09:52 PM
2254924, *clears throat, wipes brow with preachers scarf*
Posted by select_from_where, Thu Oct-31-13 09:53 PM
2254926, *Test Microphone*
Posted by select_from_where, Thu Oct-31-13 09:53 PM
2254927, BULLS BITCH!!!!!!!
Posted by select_from_where, Thu Oct-31-13 09:54 PM
2254925, CLUTCH by D-Rose, buuttt. did have 2 turnovers on previous 2 possessions
Posted by rjc27, Thu Oct-31-13 09:53 PM
not hating 1 bit, just saying... but he made up for it


<< Started From The Bottom

@rob_starrk
2254939, he was bad
Posted by RandomFact, Thu Oct-31-13 10:28 PM
it's clear that his timing is off in all facets of the game. he played well in preseason but dudes are trying now.

our offense is a stagnant mess due to lack of cohesion. i expect this to be fixed soon though.
2254928, 19 REBOUNDS and 4 BLOCKS
Posted by Starks dunked on Bulls, Thu Oct-31-13 09:56 PM
2254995, Nope, he's sorry and Carmelo has no one.
Posted by Szabo, Fri Nov-01-13 01:06 AM
LOL.
2254929, http://cdn.hiphopwired.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/6yi0n2v.gif
Posted by dula dibiasi, Thu Oct-31-13 09:56 PM
http://cdn.hiphopwired.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/6yi0n2v.gif
2254932, haha
Posted by select_from_where, Thu Oct-31-13 09:56 PM
2254930, bulls starting lineup needs to gel
Posted by RandomFact, Thu Oct-31-13 09:56 PM
lotta standing around and watching.
2254931, FUCK THE BULLS
Posted by RexLongfellow, Thu Oct-31-13 09:56 PM
I know it's only game 2 but FUCK'EM!
Rose hits the toughest shot he took all game
2254933, rose saved himself and us of torturous espn coverage all weekend
Posted by rjc27, Thu Oct-31-13 09:58 PM
about him at least

>I know it's only game 2 but FUCK'EM!
>Rose hits the toughest shot he took all game


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@rob_starrk
2254936, *tips hat*
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Thu Oct-31-13 10:09 PM
2254934, from nyk-chi to gs-lac is like they played 2 different sports.
Posted by themaddfapper, Thu Oct-31-13 10:07 PM
2254935, Bulls 2/15 in 4Q.
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Thu Oct-31-13 10:09 PM
Rose hit both of those shots
It's a win though.
And I can't stand losing to the Knicks of all teams.
So I'm glad we pulled it out.
2254938, No lie, preseason Rose had me thinking...
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Thu Oct-31-13 10:24 PM
...he was gonna walk in to the season primed.
I don't doubt he'll get there. The speed is definitely there.
Execution is off. Jumper is off.
2254944, He will get there.
Posted by PIMPINCHICAGO, Thu Oct-31-13 10:39 PM
I think what is important is that he does it writhing the framework of the team chemistry from last year. Boozer Deng and Butler all get looks and chances to produce so as long as he keeps them flowing efficiently, he can work his beadtmode into the flow.


Midseason he will be able to turn it on and off and be a better facilitator.


Watching Jordan all of those years, part of what made him great was the ability to go bananas at the flip of a switch. Jordan would start out strong, and if the Bulls had a lead, work the offense and God forbid the came was close or we were down in the 4th....it would be a wrap and he would go Jordan.


That being said, as long as he comes through in the clutch and get us out to decent lead, quarters 2-3 can be all Deng Boozer and Butler getting money.


2254952, RE: He will get there.
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Thu Oct-31-13 11:02 PM
Boozer Deng
>and Butler all get looks and chances to produce so as long as
>he keeps them flowing efficiently, he can work his beadtmode
>into the flow.

Yeah, I think he's getting them the ball, but they seem to all be jumpers.
And outside of Boozer, they haven't been hitting them.
Which forces Rose to, dare I say it, turn the Bulls into the Knicks...ha.

I think they'll be running good by NOV/DEC.
2254941, this bj mullens shooting 3's is a real thing, huh? im not a fan
Posted by themaddfapper, Thu Oct-31-13 10:32 PM
and the w's really miss jack. they don't have a good secondary ballhandler and they're throwing the rock all over the place.
2254943, is tyronn lue on doc's staff?
Posted by RandomFact, Thu Oct-31-13 10:37 PM
2254950, Yes
Posted by MothershipConnection, Thu Oct-31-13 10:58 PM
Doesn't seem so long ago he was getting stepped over by AI.
2254945, stephen a and wilbon talking about it
Posted by RandomFact, Thu Oct-31-13 10:45 PM
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9910380

bulls still don't have enough on offense
2254947, Bogut is so cunty
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Oct-31-13 10:51 PM
2254949, ?? What was he supposed to do
Posted by HecticHavoc, Thu Oct-31-13 10:58 PM
He pushed him back and didn't back down, plus talked shit lol.
2254951, he did exactly what he was supposed to do
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Oct-31-13 11:00 PM
I was just pointing out that he is a cunty douche aka australian
2254948, That Rose shot was nuts
Posted by adam, Thu Oct-31-13 10:57 PM
I can't really get too angry about losing on a shot like that. I thought Felton and Tyson had it defended well. Rose is just Rose, though.

It'd be nice if the Knicks would run actual plays late in close games. Maybe someday.

On a positive note, Tyson looks healthy and has been really solid so far. That Tyson-Melo-Shumpert-Felton-Hardaway Jr. lineup late in the game looked real good, too.
2254956, Blake goin nuts out there
Posted by BlassFemur, Thu Oct-31-13 11:46 PM
2254957, it's all good when the clippers can do that.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Oct-31-13 11:47 PM
2254963, Its all good when the warriors have 15+ turnovers
Posted by Amritsar, Fri Nov-01-13 12:12 AM
2254983, Exactly. If they beat you in the half-court, then you tip your cap
Posted by LA2Philly, Fri Nov-01-13 12:37 AM
But turnovers into transition is a death knell.
2254958, Paul X Griff = 3 alleys in a row
Posted by VonClay, Thu Oct-31-13 11:50 PM
eeesssshhhh
2254962, no one else can take the 3's steph takes w/o getting the hook.
Posted by themaddfapper, Fri Nov-01-13 12:10 AM
no daylight and he's still hittin
2254965, klay thompson is soft. unless he's lights out he's tentative.
Posted by themaddfapper, Fri Nov-01-13 12:14 AM
no off the dribble game.
2254967, SLOW DOWN SPICE YA KILLIN EM
Posted by themaddfapper, Fri Nov-01-13 12:16 AM
2254968, This boy is just actin crazy now.
Posted by BlassFemur, Fri Nov-01-13 12:17 AM
Curry and CP3 are having fantastic games.

Curry got them 9 TOs though.
2254972, damn cp3 is giving klay the runaround.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri Nov-01-13 12:23 AM
2254980, Klay is playing pretty good D...CP3's jumper is really wet tonight
Posted by LA2Philly, Fri Nov-01-13 12:32 AM
2254975, Man the Western Conference is gonna be a war
Posted by MothershipConnection, Fri Nov-01-13 12:27 AM
I mean we all knew that coming into the season, but this might really be a landmark year in OKS posting.
2254978, W's are really gonna miss J Jack handling the ball
Posted by LA2Philly, Fri Nov-01-13 12:31 AM
He allowed Steph to work off the ball for easy looks, Klay didn't have to handle the ball or play off the dribble (two things he is mediocre at), and Toney Douglas is an inconsistent decision maker.

If you have the personnel to really crowd and haggle Steph for 48 mins, you can force turnovers out of him and the other ball-handlers.
2254985, 100% cosign. Definitely shouldn't have let him go.
Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Nov-01-13 12:39 AM
2254996, They weren't going to be able to give him what the Cavs gave him
Posted by mrhood75, Fri Nov-01-13 01:11 AM
And I'd rather have a few years of Iggy.
2254997, Esp. when they had Barnes
Posted by FILF, Fri Nov-01-13 01:11 AM
2254986, Iggy helps but the W's really miss Jack's shooting w/2nd unit
Posted by MothershipConnection, Fri Nov-01-13 12:40 AM
They should probably stagger Iggy and Steph's minutes a bit, I understand getting Steph off the ball to get better looks, but he really is a guy who shoots just as good off the dribble too. Meanwhile the Warriors 2nd unit doesn't have that same punch without Jack and Carl Landry. Warriors are gonna be real dangerous but it's hard to take them as a serious title contender until they get some source of inside scoring.
2254992, My point about off the ball looks was moreso regarding fatigue
Posted by LA2Philly, Fri Nov-01-13 12:45 AM
Having primary ball handling duties while getting hounded is a tiring exercise plus Coach Jackson expects full effort on the defensive end....JJ allowed Steph to get easy looks without having to do much work which conserves his stamina and thus makes the rest of his game better. Some of these turnovers tonight by Steph are tired turnovers and I can't even blame him because there are no other primary ball-handlers on the court and CP3/Collison have been applying a lot of ball pressure.
2254993, Good point
Posted by MothershipConnection, Fri Nov-01-13 12:48 AM
>Having primary ball handling duties while getting hounded is
>a tiring exercise plus Coach Jackson expects full effort on
>the defensive end....JJ allowed Steph to get easy looks
>without having to do much work which conserves his stamina and
>thus makes the rest of his game better. Some of these
>turnovers tonight by Steph are tired turnovers and I can't
>even blame him because there are no other primary
>ball-handlers on the court and CP3/Collison have been applying
>a lot of ball pressure.
2254988, these teams need a best of 9 playoff series
Posted by themaddfapper, Fri Nov-01-13 12:40 AM
2 extra games for the matt barnes/draymond green bogut/deandre jordan suspensions.
2254989, Warriors/Clips/Grizzlies round robin to 9
Posted by MothershipConnection, Fri Nov-01-13 12:42 AM
Everything sponsored by Taco Bell.
2255008, Someone going to tell Rose that kinesio tape won't give him a spine?
Posted by B9, Fri Nov-01-13 07:22 AM
Doesn't work like that, Skittles.
2255016, welp at least bargnani hit some jumpers.
Posted by Cenario, Fri Nov-01-13 08:28 AM