y'all falling over yourselves to get in your two cents again without holding true to your own convictions.

facts:

he has no running back and that o-line, while improved, was terrible last night against a very good defense that was hellbent on getting a W.

receiving corps is young and dumb and therefore awful.

playcalling is awful.

bradford will still manage to have a decent 3500 yd. 20 TD season with garbage weapons, as he does when healthy.


so, once tavon and givens get up to speed and that line gets even better, don't come tryna be friends.

so far...

Yet TAVON's gotta step up to help his QB?
Come on

the season w/a lot of hype along w/an impressive combine...

I'm just waiting to see more

Especially since he was the 1st WR taken, yet we've seen more flashes from cats like Hopkins and Thompkins at times

But Bradford was the #1 overall pick, and has YET to play like one. Every time he's questioned as to why there's some sort of excuse

mad?

his ceiling looks to be average at best to me.

Anyone can put up those passing stats in the NFL today. Anyone.



That said, he has a terrible OC, the running game is abysmal and the line has problems. He is surely better than he looked last night.

I don't care though because I can't fuck with QB's who cant/wont throw the ball downfield.

There is little chance of that. Even if the Rams get better, I don't root for noodle armed QBs.

Part of our irrevocable shareholder agreement that was drawn up in crimson and cream.

playing behind that line on turf. This old chestnut of a dumb argument about the Rams cutting Bradford and swallowing $50M in guaranteed/already paid money to switch things up again by taking Griff is was and will always be funny.

This old chestnut of a dumb
>argument about the Rams cutting Bradford and swallowing $50M
>in guaranteed/already paid money to switch things up again by
>taking Griff is was and will always be funny.

if so, i can't help you improve your reasoning skills.

Bradford has been what he's been his whole career... he STILL doesn't have an o-line and Austin and Givens are there NOW and he can't get them the ball, they paid Jared Cook mad money, good week 1, now sam can't get that big target the rock. These things won't change this year, so he gets ANOTHER year next year? Many QB's have been doomed by a franchise who did not provide them with an oline/running game/good wr's, etc. Trent Edward, Chad Henne, David Carr, Mark Sanchez the past few years, etc

Laurent Robinson left young Sam and balled with Romo, Danario left young Sam and balled with Rivers last year.

Not to mention he's in a division with the best D in the NFL (probably will be for the next 3 years min) and the banged up defense that shit on him last night isn't going anywhere either.

This is a buy low opportunity so you really can't lose, but Sam Bradford will NEVER win an NFL playoff game, shit he'll never play in one, and if you don't do that as a QB, especially a 1st pick you are a mega B U S T

>he has no running back and that o-line, while improved, was
>terrible last night against a very good defense that was
>hellbent on getting a W.

>receiving corps is young and dumb and therefore awful.
>
>playcalling is awful.
>
>bradford will still manage to have a decent 3500 yd. 20 TD
>season with garbage weapons, as he does when healthy.

and you know he never will


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In a draft post, once he that new receiver, you said he was gonna ball out this year. I said NO excuses, and you said he won't need any.

I don't have the thread retrieval skills like some do, but I remember that exchange. Keep them goalposts in place fam. He's gotta produce THIS YEAR.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2168328&mesg_id=2168328&page=55#2168719

He's got 12 games left...lol

Touche

>

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/bradmiss.gif

if homeboy actually ran his route that's an easy 6.

if Bradford isn't gonna wait for it to develop due to his happy feet at least put some air under it to let the receiver go get it



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who looks like he was trying his damnedest to hold.

there's no basis for it, but cool.

and make no hard cut.

that was probably exactly how it was drawn up.

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it hits him in his face and he walks in for a touchdown.

but he halfassed the route and made everybody look like an asshole.

disgusting

there are different routes in that situation, one is flatter towards the sideline, the other is deeper towards that wide open space in the endzone.

It's not like the dude ran an out route instead of a crossing pattern.

The bottom line is that he didn't hit a wide open WR for a TD.

Any interpretation is just guesswork on your part.

Oh, he also had a terrible game.

>It's not like the dude ran an out route instead of a crossing
>pattern.

like it takes a receiver running the complete wrong play instead of just not running the route as it's drawn up to make a pass play miss.

doctoral candidate level work here.

your boy had a shitty game and missed a comically open WR.

I think that about covers it.

he definitely had a shitty game, but your .gif is a poor example of that fact, and illustrates the incompetence he's working with.

and your inability to watch football and understand what's happening, apparently.

bradford threw to the open spot in the defense, where a well-run route would have gone

that guy is looking to catch a seam over his outside shoulder, which...no

a real cut has him scoring a touchdown, that was just fuckin lazy

Not where Pettis was running.

this .gif actually illustrates the bullshit bradford has to deal with to try to have some success.

half his offensive line is getting absolutely manhandled 1 on 1, while his receiver breaks off his route and calls for the ball instead of making his cut and running his route.

but i'm just copping pleas so i keep friendly at the alumni breakfasts.

He hasn't done anything since being the #1 pick
He's HAD a great RB in SJax...and he's had a comparable line with comparable weapons as Sanchez

Every year is another excuse for him...he's just not good

> Sanchez

They all suck. You're turning this into Plummer vs Brooks vs the Brooklyn Brawler
____________________

Behold my works,ye mighty

Sanchez's done more with the same tools...comparable WR's and nowhere near a beast of a back like SJax was. And like someone said, it's interesting that dudes left STL and are balling now, whereas the guys that aren't on the Jets anymore are Braylon Edwards and Plaxico Burress

I quickly realized those WEAPONS are shit.

Darryl Richardson - is Goontacular
I Pead - is ass cheeks. (drafted him over Josh Gordon) Smh
Zac Stacy - I got this nigga too

Tavon - Austin - hasn't done much yet, but he's young
Chris Givens - He's an okay field stretcher
Brian Quick - Good Lord
Jared Cook - blew his load early

Them dudes are horrible

Gordon went in the supplementary draft months later

>I quickly realized those WEAPONS are shit.
>
>Darryl Richardson - is Goontacular
>I Pead - is ass cheeks. (drafted him over Josh Gordon) Smh
>Zac Stacy - I got this nigga too
>
>Tavon - Austin - hasn't done much yet, but he's young
>Chris Givens - He's an okay field stretcher
>Brian Quick - Good Lord
>Jared Cook - blew his load early
>
>Them dudes are horrible


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starts.

his former OC Pat Shurmer and the Browns had two 1st round picks in 2012, they probably would've coughed up one of them for Bradford. if it was the 4th overall pick, Rams coulda paired RG3 with Morris Claiborne...if they gave them the 22nd pick they coulda got some OL help like David Decastro or Riley Reiff, or an impact defender like Harrison Smith.

in St Louis, of all places, that he didn't in Washington?

>in St Louis, of all places, that he didn't in Washington?

This is why he's coddled in DC

That shit wouldn't fly in the Lou

St. Louis is full of Tha_Truth types

They wouldn't stand for that shit, nah



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over Bradford and the picks Washington gave them if they had a chance to re-do it.

instead of the deal they made?

is that something that was shopped and documented, or is this just conjecture?

Cleveland made a lot of sense at the time, there was familiarity with Bradford and the coach, they had an extra 1st from the Julio Jones trade and a glaring need for a QB.

wasn't snarking, legit asking.

http://ionetheurbandaily.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/ms-melodie.jpg

was not happening, ever.

Rams got kinda fucked on him being the last of those big rookie deals.

Remember when Tavon Austin was the only reason that
Geno Smith put up FORTY TWO FUCKING TOUCHDOWNS to
SIX INTERCEPTIONS!?!?!?

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Tavon and the system was supposed to be the reason for Geno's #'s in college

Dude is throwing to CLYDE GATES now and winning games

Bradford's had SJAX, Tavon, Danario Alexander (balling with Rivers) and Brandon Lloyd and sucking

LMAO @ a nigga trying to come in here like he's some
undervalued, persecuted martyr

He was HYPED to no end

Get THEE fock outta here

>Tavon and the system was supposed to be the reason for Geno's
>#'s in college
>
>Dude is throwing to CLYDE GATES now and winning games

Nobody has a worse supporting cast than Geno

NOBODY

>Bradford's had SJAX, Tavon, Danario Alexander (balling with
>Rivers) and Brandon Lloyd and sucking


He's had weapons.

He's had time to improve.

He hasn't improved.


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He woulda been the #1 pick overall in the Stafford draft
but didn't come out (Heisman)

He was basically just chilling that last year...until
he got hurt

and double the TD's

:)

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is him closing it & then handing it to the guy behind him tho as if to say 'get that shit out of my fuckin' face, I don't even know what I'm supposed to be looking at & it doesn't matter'.

See if this works:
http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/811357057.gif

>http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/811357057.gif

He's literally saying GET THAT OUTTA MY FACE...I DON'T KNOW DAT SHIT!

It was after the first interception, where his receiver mistimed the world. Bradford is thinking about Q school or why he isn't balling with Blake right now rather than dealing with this disfunctional shit.

the fact is, the Rams aint shit. They just aren't. These new weapons are not really weapons at all. Sam has everything stacked against him. He's never had a decent OC, maybe save for his first season under Pat Shurmur...and they ran him out of town because his play calling was too "vanilla". Forget about the fact that Sam was at his best under Pat. He's got an O-line that literally gets beat up one on one nearly every play, NO running game (these backs are a collective joke...good thing they got rid of Jackson), receivers who cant run proper routes and/or get separation....and when they do get a pass thrown their way...they usually drop it and an OC who consistently ran his 200lb running back straight up the gut into the line for 1 to 2 yard gains all night. They won't/can't run plays to his strengths. He and Givens have actually developed some chemistry and that's the one shining light. Remember when Brian Quick was the next T.O.??? Yeah...me neither. Pettis? FOH. Cook got cised like shit when they got him in the off-season. I didn't hear about anyone blowing up his phone to get him before that. Tayvon Austin was drafted 8th overall??? He's child-like in size and they only have one play for him!!! 8th overall!!! Should have got Lacey and had a fucking running game. As much as this town shits on Spags...the team had played EXACTLY the same the last two weeks under Fisher. He was supposed to change the culture, lol. I'm rolling with Sam till the wheels fall off. He's not gonna flourish, though, til he leaves this town.

>the fact is, the Rams aint shit. They just aren't. These
>new weapons are not really weapons at all. Sam has everything
>stacked against him. He's never had a decent OC, maybe save
>for his first season under Pat Shurmur...and they ran him out
>of town because his play calling was too "vanilla". Forget
>about the fact that Sam was at his best under Pat. He's got
>an O-line that literally gets beat up one on one nearly every
>play, NO running game (these backs are a collective
>joke...good thing they got rid of Jackson), receivers who cant
>run proper routes and/or get separation....and when they do
>get a pass thrown their way...they usually drop it and an OC
>who consistently ran his 200lb running back straight up the
>gut into the line for 1 to 2 yard gains all night.
You can literally say the EXACT same thing about Sanchez. When Sanchez had Thomas Jones for one year, and a effective but waning LT for his second year, he was throwing to Braylon Edwards and Santonio Holmes. He still won games and was enough to get into a playoff spot and do damage.
Bradford had SJax and Brandon Lloyd. Everyone said Tayvon Austin was a great weapon when he was drafted, and he's only played 4 games. He had Danario Alexander (got banged up) and Danny Amendola for a stretch before he got hurt as well. Bottom line is that he's HAD weapons and just couldn't get it done.
His line was shaky, I'll grant that. But nobody gave Sanchez that plea when his line was in transition.


They
>won't/can't run plays to his strengths. He and Givens have
>actually developed some chemistry and that's the one shining
>light. Remember when Brian Quick was the next T.O.???
>Yeah...me neither. Pettis? FOH. Cook got cised like shit
>when they got him in the off-season. I didn't hear about
>anyone blowing up his phone to get him before that. Tayvon
>Austin was drafted 8th overall??? He's child-like in size and
>they only have one play for him!!! 8th overall!!! Should
>have got Lacey and had a fucking running game. As much as
>this town shits on Spags...the team had played EXACTLY the
>same the last two weeks under Fisher. He was supposed to
>change the culture, lol. I'm rolling with Sam till the wheels
>fall off. He's not gonna flourish, though, til he leaves this
>town.
Same with Sanchez...however Sanchez got ROASTED NATIONALLY for regressing. And he's done better under the same garbage OC that Bradford has now. Bradford is the #1 OVERALL, and is dodging national criticism left and right. Dude should be roasted for playing like garbage.

Dude ain't good

you can have bradford though. i am hopeful, that's it. i saw him in college a lot, not much with st louis. so far with the birds, ehhhhhhhh, "just a guy" would be generous.

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