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Topic subjectLen Bias.. June 19,1986
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2197886, Len Bias.. June 19,1986
Posted by Beezo, Wed Jun-19-13 09:44 AM
Man.. 27 years? Wow
2197895, I swore I was alive when he died....why did I think it was 88?
Posted by CherNic, Wed Jun-19-13 09:58 AM
Obviously never saw him play but recently re-watched his 30 for 30 (one of my top 10 favorites if not top 5) and to see how SO many people were affected by his death, and especially the drug laws...
2197916, Definitely a story of "what if?"..
Posted by Beezo, Wed Jun-19-13 10:19 AM
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2197924, i was 7 and didn't know about him as a player
Posted by themaddfapper, Wed Jun-19-13 10:36 AM
but I heard coke and first time (oh, good ol 80's drug propaganda, how I miss you) and never touched the stuff.

now in hindsight it turns out that wasn't the case, however his death *might* have prevented me from ever getting mixed up w/ coke, and for that I'm grateful.

so tragic.
2197937, I don't believe someone gets a bag of blow the size of a baseball
Posted by Bombastic, Wed Jun-19-13 10:50 AM
and has the nickname 'Frosty' if this was his first rodeo.

However as a kid that was certainly an effective scare tactic.
2197943, yeah, I never really bought the whole "it was his first time, he'd never...
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Jun-19-13 11:01 AM
used drugs before" angle, that was just trying to paint him as a good guy after he died. People like to fantasize about what could've been with his career but the reality is if he didn't die that day he probably would've washed out of the league due to drugs and still been a "bust" like other members of that draft class.
2198029, I did at the time because I was in 3rd grade or something
Posted by Bombastic, Wed Jun-19-13 01:19 PM
so it seemed pretty simple to swallow along with the whole campaign (tho I was adept enough even at that age to know I hated Reagan, wrote a scathing commentary in class on his support of apartheid & supported Mondale in the '84 election as an 8-year old once he beat Jesse).

But yeah, when the stuff came about a couple years later & I read the SI with the stories about the end of Lefty Driesel's era at Maryland I remember thinking 'wait a minute.....and why is his name Frosty anyway?!?'.

Then when I got old enough to grasp exactly how much cocaine 'a bag the size of a baseball' consititutes & it becomes ridiculous to think this was a 'let's try it!' type of purchase.

They could have kept their whole campus high all weekend with that but instead they huddled up in a dorm room with three of them.

Okay, players.
2197930, creeps up on me every year.
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Jun-19-13 10:42 AM
2197953, One of the biggest reasons the C's dropped off and LA didn't
Posted by Lach, Wed Jun-19-13 11:10 AM
2197963, not really
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Jun-19-13 11:22 AM
2198022, this combined with Reggie Lewis played a big role
Posted by Lach, Wed Jun-19-13 12:58 PM
Those guys were supposed to get the torch from Bird/McHale/Parish
2198039, more like Doc/Straw with more disaterous results
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Jun-19-13 01:34 PM
2198108, Until 2000s tho?
Posted by RaFromQueens, Wed Jun-19-13 05:30 PM
2198176, part of it was the deaths, other part was bad luck
Posted by Lach, Wed Jun-19-13 11:06 PM
and then a little bad management as well. The C's had the worst record the year Duncan came out and ended up with the 3rd and 6th picks instead. At the same time the previous owner was a sorry mofo. I mean it's not just the deaths but that's about 10-12 years of possible successful basketball being wiped out right there.
2197977, think the first time i heard bias' name was in a rap song
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jun-19-13 12:06 PM
i was 4 in 86.
2198041, RE: think the first time i heard bias' name was in a rap song
Posted by guru0509, Wed Jun-19-13 01:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGetKK2eRys
2197984, .....this here....
Posted by KnowOne, Wed Jun-19-13 12:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsE0Th50SII
2198050, I wonder how many kids he kept off coke
Posted by EmDub, Wed Jun-19-13 02:18 PM
Scared them into never trying it?

It was a sad time with him and Reggie and the decline of the C's. Who knows what would have happened, but he certainly had the skills.


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2198106, His death was like the beginning of the end of the unchecked crack era
Posted by Castro, Wed Jun-19-13 05:24 PM
2198177, Prolly would've compared Bron moreso to Bias had he lived & beasted
Posted by mtbatol, Wed Jun-19-13 11:07 PM
2198195, c'mon, that's some 'Big L woulda been Jay-Z' levels of hypothetical BS
Posted by Bombastic, Thu Jun-20-13 02:12 AM
2198316, Ed O'Bannon and Joe Smith were beasts in college, too.
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Thu Jun-20-13 11:42 AM
Let's no go too ham with it, but yeah, Bias was a lot to handle at the college level.
2198893, no. bias was better than jordan in college. ed o'bannon and joe
Posted by poetx, Thu Jun-20-13 10:55 PM
smith? nah. not even.

lenny would have beasted in the pros, too. he was on some other shit.


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2198181, i remember like it was yesterday
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Wed Jun-19-13 11:40 PM
Rockets and celtics were in the finals and i was in houston visting and that news hit and it felt odd, strange and just wrong.

Bias was a beat a freaky nature of raw talent.

he was suppose to be the Next in Beantown.

him and Reggie Lewis that was sadd sadd sadd. Bias though was going to be on that next had he lived though.

2198202, Random, but I never realized he was the #2 pick. I thought he
Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Thu Jun-20-13 03:54 AM
was like #6 or something, wow.

My dad ALWAYS told me about this story, though. Heard it a million times in HS.
2198315, he'd have been no 1 in many years, if no blue chip centers were there
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Thu Jun-20-13 11:41 AM
crazy too because you look at the top seven or eight picks there, you've also got tarpley, washburn and bedford, all guys who survived but basically bummed out because of drugs.

as a result, the second round had as many successful players as the first and actually had more stars. the worm, mark price, hornacek and duckworth were all all-stars, i believe. only daugherty and harper were real deal stars in the first round. pretty sure sabonis was selected that year, but obviously didn't come over for another decade damn near.
2198492, Never realized he died on my bday...wow
Posted by MaxPtah, Thu Jun-20-13 05:21 PM
2198495, ^^^ low key fishing for shoutouts and gifts
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Thu Jun-20-13 05:33 PM
happy birthday, dude.
2198502, one of the coldest college players i ever saw
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Jun-20-13 06:20 PM
was doin all the shit jordan was doin in college but with a much better j
2198906, he had the purest jump shot i have ever seen. certainly up until
Posted by poetx, Thu Jun-20-13 10:57 PM
that time. and that's out of all kinds of great guards.

he elevated so fucking high on it, it was like he was shooting down at the basket.


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