The first time we played them and beat them by 20 - It was Sandy, we shouldn't have played the game. They'll have revenge on the mind next time.
(Like the Miami team felt that more than the NY team)

The second time we played them - It was Melo didn't play they didn't get up for the game.
They'll have revenge on the mind next time.

Today, the Heat come to the Garden...both Lebron and Wade said they have revenge on the mind.

WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE NARRATIVE IF THE KNICKS FUCK AROUND AND WIN TODAY?
The Heat didn't play well because they were tired after filming a Harlem Shake.
They'll have revenge on the mind next time.

winning streaks gotta end somewhere

MIA will win though, so there's that

y'all gotta stop being cysed over these lil reg. season wins. we go through this every year. makes me think this board would explode if y'all actually won a title.

>y'all gotta stop being cysed over these lil reg. season wins.
>we go through this every year. makes me think this board would
>explode if y'all actually won a title.

doesn't mean anything?

c'mon

let's not go too far

you know they aint winning shit this year...

>doesn't mean anything?
>
>c'mon
>
>let's not go too far

As long as they win the title, that's all that matters.

If anything they're more concerned about the season series with Oklahoma.

In the long run, after the season is over no one will remember how either team faired against the other one in the regular season. No matter if one or either team wins it all.

They won't remember or care about how any team faired against ANY TEAM in the regular season at that point be it the Spurs or the Bobcats.

But that's not where we are right now. Right here today that's all we have to talk about is the regular season. And how we've done against them and how they've done against us.

So yeah LeroyBumpkin has every right to feel like the Knicks are no threat to him right now.
I REPEAT LEROYBUMPKIN AND HIS BULLS FAN MATES HAVE NO REASON TO BE SHOOK OF THE KNICKS RIGHT HERE TODAY. (except the fact that they're still looking up at us)

But, right here today, The Knicks have no reason to be shook of the Heat either (except the fact that we're looking up at them in the standings)

So the question I posed is only about the reg. season, as its all we can talk about right now. We'll see what happens in the 'offs.

with both teams at full strength

you get an idea of what a potential playoff matchup will look like

you can try different sets and lineups

and then use that in a potential playoff matchup

especially considering this is the team that eliminated you last year

4 - 1

the NYK have to show something against MIA going into the playoffs

just for the mental edge

and we always compare regular season matchups when teams go into a playoff series

so yeah, saying this doesn't matter at all

ehh, I'm not buying it

ABC gets their ratings and people on messageboards and around the horn can debate largely irrelevant points generating more interest for the NBA playoffs
it's cliche but the Heat really are a different animal in the playoffs
two of the biggest contributors/role players during the playoffs last yr were fucking horrible all regular season (battier/miller)
the knicks need to focus on keeping this old ass team healthy enough to get out of the first round and thru indy or who ever they see in round 2 before u start worrying about lineups and match ups with the heat (lol)

James White didn't look bad guarding Bron

I'm guessing this isn't their normal starting lineup

Shump on Wade

White on Bron

obviously putting a lineup out their with a priority on the defensive side

looked good for a few minutes before White got into foul trouble

and they had to bring in JR

>The Heat didn't play well because they were tired after
>filming a Harlem Shake.

>The first time we played them and beat them by 20 - It was
>Sandy, we shouldn't have played the game. They'll have revenge
>on the mind next time.
>(Like the Miami team felt that more than the NY team)
>
>The second time we played them - It was Melo didn't play they
>didn't get up for the game.
>They'll have revenge on the mind next time.
>
>Today, the Heat come to the Garden...both Lebron and Wade said
>they have revenge on the mind.
>
>WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE NARRATIVE IF THE KNICKS FUCK AROUND AND
>WIN TODAY?
>The Heat didn't play well because they were tired after
>filming a Harlem Shake.
>They'll have revenge on the mind next time.

We're champs idc idc omfg


>The first time we played them and beat them by 20 - It was
>Sandy, we shouldn't have played the game. They'll have revenge
>on the mind next time.
>(Like the Miami team felt that more than the NY team)
>
>The second time we played them - It was Melo didn't play they
>didn't get up for the game.
>They'll have revenge on the mind next time.
>
>Today, the Heat come to the Garden...both Lebron and Wade said
>they have revenge on the mind.
>
>WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE NARRATIVE IF THE KNICKS FUCK AROUND AND
>WIN TODAY?
>The Heat didn't play well because they were tired after
>filming a Harlem Shake.
>They'll have revenge on the mind next time.

lol

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It's just too dangerous because of how easily the shooter can twist an ankle or worse. Only way to dissuade that is to call a foul.

9 fts in a quarter FOH

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season?

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Lol @ Ced Ceballos on this list tho

he ain't touch the one about his team with a 10 foot pole yet?
Bron be having cats cautious as fuck
this thread's premise is retarded but i give subjmatter props for putting his neck on the line for that 'thank god it snowed'

he's giving Miami a real defensive presence at the rim.

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despite all of the box-scoring, every single day game discussions, player discussions/agendas/hyping/hating/debating and the board thriving off of the NBA regular season, THE REGULAR SEASON DOESN'T MATTER, lol

It all just doesn't matter, none of it
The NBA regular season doesn't mean a thing to the people on this board

>The first time we played them and beat them by 20 - It was
>Sandy, we shouldn't have played the game. They'll have revenge
>on the mind next time.
>(Like the Miami team felt that more than the NY team)
>
>The second time we played them - It was Melo didn't play they
>didn't get up for the game.
>They'll have revenge on the mind next time.
>
>Today, the Heat come to the Garden...both Lebron and Wade said
>they have revenge on the mind.
>
>WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE NARRATIVE IF THE KNICKS FUCK AROUND AND
>WIN TODAY?
>The Heat didn't play well because they were tired after
>filming a Harlem Shake.
>They'll have revenge on the mind next time.

>despite all of the box-scoring, every single day game
>discussions, player discussions/agendas/hyping/hating/debating
>and the board thriving off of the NBA regular season, THE
>REGULAR SEASON DOESN'T MATTER, lol

that the high turnovers haven't hurt the Knicks so far.

>that the high turnovers haven't hurt the Knicks so far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnyeRbIBewI

deaded his hot streak in one fail swoop.

>deaded his hot streak in one fail swoop.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1ky6uOd8r1qcmnsoo1_500.jpg

>deaded his hot streak in one fail swoop.

http://mit.zenfs.com/207/2011/07/Bynumbox.jpg

that shit was the ugliest looking heave I've seen all year with the clock not even out yet & then he did actually go on to not hit another one all day.

Seriously tho lbj ain't get a lot of calls he normally does...I keep waiting to hear a whistle.

If kidd was sucking like lately this is a 2 point game.

Lotta sloppy turnovers by both teams.

James white sucks.

Skinny dress pants capris?
#cmonson

I feel like he has earned it with these last two starts

Cause all he does in games is collect fouls

I'm ok with that. Rebounds/deflections/fouls.

Look, when you're on a winning streak & you've lost to a team twice by 20 points you wanna win.
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The whole NBA gasped

shakes it off

next play, jumper!

looks like this game kinda matters

Rather see bosh or battier go down lol

-smuts

during that Bath Salt Bron stretch there was a fair share of bum teams in there i'm sure. no nights off , this ain't the lakers
this thread is about narratives (that the Heat players don't create) and whether or not this game matters in the grand scheme (it doesn't)

The ball movement is beautiful. Knicks giving him them open looks.

Whats problem?

He just escorted wade to the rim for a layup

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH NOVAK TODAY.

As long he TAKES wide open shots I do not have a problem w/ him whether they fall or not.

Novak's shot will more then not fall.

Who the knicks will most likely face in the ECF is a huge plus. To say that doesnt matter is just weird to me.
Depending on who they face from the west getting past the Heat is the real challenge for the Knicks.

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Here's a hint: the Knicks ain't gonna have it

that the ref is a Bitch Ass Nigga before missing that first free throw, amirite?

Bron was saying the ref disrepsected him cause he walked a way while bron was talking to him, making him look like an idiot.

Ref ain't gaf

>Bron was saying the ref disrepsected him cause he walked a
>way while bron was talking to him, making him look like an
>idiot.
>
>Ref ain't gaf

Made me laugh

#Kang better

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on both sides

in 5 secs no less

and woodsons coaching looks mighty suspect right now

Get back on d damn, they letting both teams get away wit stuff so stop crying.

i won't hear the end of it if the Heat don't beat the knicks.

gotta beat these turkeys and keep Mello and especially TYson Chandler in check.

gotta keep them off that 3 point line

troll on troll onnnnn

only 4 points and not a single point in the last 5 min when bron locked him the fuck up when it mattered most
:(

Melo gets blitzed and it results in a JR chuck...Felton doesn't even touch it lol.

L for the knicks

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dumb pass by jr smith
but melo gotta be more aggressive and come to the ball if lebron is lurking right there

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Oh well

He was handling the ball a lot more consistently and did it well. Also allowed Bron to play at the elbow which gave him a lot more ability to see the floor bc NY was doubling the screen-roll hard with Chandler.

lol

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i agree - it was an important game - but not indicative
of who will win should they match up in the Playoffs.

but you know you've got plenty fellow Knick fans who couldn't
wait to write an e-thesis on what this win would've meant lol

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felt that winning the game means that we could beat Miami in the playoffs

the two top teams in a conference, one of them the defending champs playing each other on a National TV matinee is a big enough game to get happy if the Knicks won though (as a Knicks fan)

but the game doesn't matter so who cares

>i agree - it was an important game - but not indicative
>of who will win should they match up in the Playoffs.
>
>but you know you've got plenty fellow Knick fans who couldn't
>wait to write an e-thesis on what this win would've meant lol
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lol

I care about players.

You know, the guys that actually comprise of the *team*

upset?


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still one more game

yal pull that out yal can have sutten to hang ur hat on after yals annual 1st round playoff exit

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Guess it only matters if the Heat win huh?

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attacking the basket last couple of minutes when the game was in the balance
ultimately that's a L for the knicks because u need Melo or Amare stepping up in that spot
but at least Felton was trying

for not even having Amar'e on the court



>attacking the basket last couple of minutes when the game was
>in the balance
>ultimately that's a L for the knicks because u need Melo or
>Amare stepping up in that spot
>but at least Felton was trying

nuff said

Why are talking about Woodson or Lin or whatever?


The Heat are better.


Lebron is a titan. He can be 4 different players
within a single quarter, as many as three within
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>Why are talking about Woodson or Lin or whatever?
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>The Heat are better.
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>Lebron is a titan. He can be 4 different players
>within a single quarter, as many as three within
>a single possession
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how do you turn your back to lebron, the most dangerous basketball player, like, ever, so he can get an alley-oop?

how do you let him pass, and a)not have him bumped as he cuts or b) have the big rotating to the middle for the give and go?

james white should have stuck to long jumping.

iman shumpert, for a guy who played 1 at GT, has no confidence dribbling the ball nor attacking the rim.

sloppy w/ the rock.

and though I gather from the posts felton was attacking the rim late in the game, the major offensive flaw on this team none of the guards are a real threat to get in the lane.

too much mental midgetry for a veteran team, if you ask me. and it can't be all on woodson.

best player...sorry, it's just the truth

Also, they have too many complimentary parts and no real 2nd option - like whose their 2nd option? Is it really JR Smith, Amar'e, Chandler, or Felton? If the answer is anyone of the above then that explains why they won't win nothing more than *maybe* a 1st rd playoff series

The second option is jr

Kidd is kidd
Tyson is Tyson
Felton is barea
Melo is dirk
Smith is terry
Novak is cardinal

Problem is: dirk is efficient, melo ain't . And who is their matrix?

to melo's credit, he's been pretty efficient this year (although nowhere near dirk in 2011).

>to melo's credit, he's been pretty efficient this year
>(although nowhere near dirk in 2011

Yeah and Carmelo can't pick his spots to be efficient
when he's surrounded my inconsistent mindless long bombers.

after that sizzling start, JR has been pretty shabby. his TS is now down beneath 50% (league average is around 53%). elsewhere in the backcourt, felton is lousy and shump can't shoot for shit. as an aside, i think prigioni should probably be playing a bit more.

the knicks' problem is that novak and kidd need to be taking shots, but can't defend. the guys who can defend can't shoot. as they've tried to shore up the defense--rising from 19th to 16th over past few weeks--their offense has slid from 2nd to 4th.

They have all of one reliable scorer on offense

They have a "stopper" coming off of knee surgery

Their 2nd best scorer is a shadow of his former self

They are reckless on the perimeter

an efficient scorer...he's who he's always been

The Knicks were always fool's gold w/that style of play. They can't adopt the Mavericks style of play because the Mavs had smarter players and more efficient shooters than do the Knicks and their star player was a better player and easier to build around than the Knicks' star player.



>to melo's credit, he's been pretty efficient this year
>(although nowhere near dirk in 2011).

it's only partially useful and often deceptive. harden and holiday both shoot 45% but are totally different in terms of efficiency.

>it's only partially useful and often deceptive. harden and
>holiday both shoot 45% but are totally different in terms of
>efficiency.

Man ya'll gotta stop w/these Bleacherreport and ESPN metrics lol...ok, how abt the good ol "eye test?" Does that suffice? Melo has now surpassed Bean for the most shot attempts this season and his 44% fg is right around what he usually shoots from the floor. The knock on the Knicks since January is the ball movement has now become stagnant and that the 'ball is starting to stick to certain player's hands." Now, which player would that apply to on the Knicks?

FG% doesn't account for free throws or weight three-pointers as being worth more. the obvious comparison is to batting average. it's a helpful start but easily inaccurate.

for example:

who's the most efficient scorer this year out of these raptors?

kyle lowry - 41% FG
demar derozen - 43% FG
landry fields - 46%

hint: it's the exact opposite of their respective FG percentages.

>The knock on the Knicks since January is the ball movement has now become stagnant and that the 'ball is starting to stick to certain player's hands."

the 'knock' on the knicks is that they are not hitting 3's like they did in the beginning of the year, not defending the same way and turning the ball over a bit more.

it was nice as far as the "buying in" narrative and the woodsonian agenda goes, but tyson chandler is the only excellent defensive player on the team (now that brewer's gone and rasheed is done).

the defense was better for most of last season under both coaches because they were playing dudes like jeffries, fields, douglas and a healthy shump instead of kidd and felton. the secret to linsanity was that they had the second-best defense in the NBA with amare and melo on the sidelines.

>>The knock on the Knicks since January is the ball movement
>has now become stagnant and that the 'ball is starting to
>stick to certain player's hands."
>
>the 'knock' on the knicks is that they are not hitting 3's
>like they did in the beginning of the year, not defending the
>same way and turning the ball over a bit more.

Yeah, they're aren't hitting 3's at the rate they were early in the season because they aren't getting THE BALL MOVEMENT and initially knicks apologist said it was because Felton was out and now that he's back, they still aren't shooting particularly well from the outside and 'sticky hands' are a big reason for that

kidd, JR and melo were shooting way above career averages early in the season. that was partly due to great ball movement, but it wasn't going to keep up. same deal with oj mayo -- he wasn't going to maintain 50% three-pointing shooting all season.

Melo shot 44% from 3 in nov.
Kidd 49%
JR 47%
Brewer 41%
Felton 40%

No type of ball movement is going to sustain those numbers throughout a season.

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is comical to me... it just showed that if he isn't scoring constantly in crunch time nobody else can step up and do it... JR Smith refused to go to the hoop just settled for 3's 5 ft behind the line, Novak literally looked scared everytime he touched the ball, Shumpert shouldve pulled a D-Rose and sat all year, and late in that game u have to wonder if Amare is a better option then Chandler, Chandler is useless on offense when you have to slow down and play half court late in games like that

Miami wasn't gonna let melo beat them.

Felton ain't appear til about 2 mins left

he's right there with durant, bron and harden, in terms of guys who shoot frequently while keeping a high TS percentage. it could be a small sample size fluke, but it's worth noting.

Which is why his numbers look good.

But if we are going to do anything in the playoffs, we gotta take the training wheels off amare

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