jeremy schaap reporting (I miss his old man, who must be proud as fuck)

The video link is schaap interviewed on Sportscenter. Looks like this dude just got catfish'd

the catfish dude right now:

http://i.imgur.com/zuzCw.gif

Manti Te'o denied being part of a hoax involving a relationship with a person online whom he considered his girlfriend, during an interview with ESPN's Jeremy Schaap on Friday night.

"No. Never," Te'o said during the 2½-hour interview. "I wasn't faking it," he said. "I wasn't part of this."

Te'o said he didn't know for sure that "Lennay Kekua" never existed until Wednesday, when Ronaiah Tuiasosopo called Te'o and admitted he was behind the hoax.

Later Wednesday, Deadspin.com posted a story detailing an online relationship Te'o thought he had with Kekua which he says he learned was a hoax. Te'o said he has not read the Deadspin story or any other media report since the news broke.


Te'o said he received a direct message from Tuiasosopo on Twitter where Tuiasosopo said he was the perpetrator, along with one other man and a woman.

"Two guys and a girl are responsible for the whole thing," Te'o said. Asked who they are, he said: "I don't know. According to Ronaiah, Ronaiah's one."

Te'o spoke at the IMG Training Academy in Bradenton, Fla., where he is preparing for the NFL draft. There were no cameras at the interview, which was recorded.

The Notre Dame linebacker said he did not make up anything to help his Heisman Trophy candidacy.

"When (people) hear the facts, they'll know," he said. "They'll know that there is no way that I could be part of this."

In the interview, Te'o also said:

• He lied to his father about having met Kekua, prompting his father to tell reporters that Te'o and Kekua had met. Several media stories indicated that Te'o and Kekua had met. Te'o insisted they never did.

• He tried to speak with Kekua via Skype and FaceTime on several occasions, but the person at the other end of the line was in what he called a "black box" and wasn't seen.

• The first time he met Tuiasosopo was after Notre Dame beat USC on Nov. 24. Tuiasosopo is the man Deadspin and others have said was behind the hoax. Earlier Friday, ESPN's "Outside The Lines" reported that Tuiasosopo called a church friend in early December crying and admitted to duping Te'o. The friend, a woman in her mid-20s, agreed to be interviewed under the condition that she not be identified, saying she was fearful for her family's safety because of the overwhelming publicity the story has generated.

• A group of people related to Tuiasosopo showed up at the team hotel for the Discover BCS National Championship Game in Miami. Te'o said he knew they were at the hotel because the group took photos in the hotel lobby. Te'o said it affected his play in the game, where Notre Dame lost to Alabama 42-14.

• Te'o was never asked for money during the plot, but Kekua once requested his checking account number in order to send him money. Te'o did not provide his account number.

Te'o spoke of Kekua as his girlfriend several times after Dec. 6. One was at the Heisman Trophy presentation in New York on Dec. 8 to ESPN's Chris Fowler. Another was on ESPN Radio the same day. There were two other times, including a column in the Los Angeles Times on Dec. 10. He was also asked about it at a Jan. 3 news conference before the BCS title game but did not refer to his "girlfriend" directly.

Te'o said he "tailored" his stories so people would think he "met her before she passed away."

"I knew that -- I even knew that it was crazy that I was with somebody that I didn't meet," he said. "And that alone people find out that this girl who died I was so invested in, and I didn't meet her as well."

Their relationship started, Te'o said, when Kekua sent him a friend request on Facebook the winter of his freshman year at Notre Dame. The two then had intermittent contact over the phone.

"My relationship with Lennay wasn't a four-year relationship," Te'o said. "There were blocks and times and periods in which we would talk and then it would end."

Te'o said their relationship escalated after Kekua told him her father had died.

"She told me her dad passed away, and I was there. I was that shoulder to cry on. And I kind of just naturally cared for the person," Te'o said. "And so our relationship kind of took another level. But not the kind of exclusive level yet."

He said he was told Kekua was in a car accident April 28 and was in the hospital. He said he was told she was in a coma.

“

I slept on the phone with her every night. I'd be on the phone. And she had complications from the accident, and she said the only thing that could help her sleep was if I was on the phone. So I would be on the phone, and I'd have the phone on the whole night.
” -- Manti Te'o

"I would ask to talk to her, and the only communication I had was through Noah, her brother, and he used her phone," Te'o said. "And he would put me supposedly right next to her mouth and I could hear the ventilator going. And she would be breathing. ... They said every time I was on the phone, they would tell me the nurse noticed that whoever was on the phone with her, she must have recognized the voice, because she would start breathing quicker and I could hear on the phone."

Te'o was told Kekua awoke from the coma in mid-May. From that point, the relationship became more serious and they spoke on the phone every day.

"Every day. I slept on the phone with her every night," Te'o said. "... I'd be on the phone. And she had complications from the accident, and she said the only thing that could help her sleep was if I was on the phone. So I would be on the phone, and I'd have the phone on the whole night."

Schaap asked why Te'o didn't go to see Kekua in the hospital.

"It never really crossed my mind. I don't know. I was in school," he said.

Te'o talked often about a "spiritual connection" between him and Kekua. Te'o discussed a ritual where he and Kekua exchanged scripture readings. Soon, his father and mother joined in. They used the SOAP method of study, which stands for scripture, observation, application, and prayer.

"We'd slack off sometimes, and my dad would say who is slacking now?," Te'o said. "Whose turn is it to send the scripture? But for the most part it was every day."

Te'o also said that his mother "had had lengthy conversations with her about her experiences about being a convert (to Mormonism), and what she thought and shared with Lennay things to look for and things that she should do."

In late June or early July, Te'o said Kekua and her brother told him she had leukemia.

On Sept. 12, his mother and father called Te'o to tell him his grandmother had died. He said Kekua called him after his grandmother's death.

"I was angry. I didn't want to be bothered," he said. "So Lennay was just trying to be there for me. I just I just -- I just wanted my own space. We got in an argument. She was saying, 'You know, I'm trying to be here for you.' I didn't want to be bothered. I wanted to be left alone. I just wanted to be by myself.


"Last thing she told me was 'Just know I love you.' "

Later that day, Te'o was told Kekua had died from leukemia. He said he was in the Notre Dame locker room when he got the call.

Te'o said he stayed in contact with Kekua's family after her death. Then months later, on Dec. 6, Te'o said he received a phone call from the number Kekua had used. He answered and a woman's voice on the other end said there was something she needed to tell him, but it could wait until after the national title game on Jan. 8.

"I said you have to tell me now, because if you don't tell me now, I'm still going to think about it," Te'o said. "... She said, well, Manti, it's me. That's all she said. And I played stupid for a little bit. I was like, 'Oh, I know it's you, U'ilani (Kekua's purported sister). What do you mean?' And she's like, 'No, Manti, it's me.' "

Te'o asked who "me" was.

"She said, 'It's Lennay,' " he said. "So we carried on that conversation, and I just got mad. I just went on a rampage. 'How could you do this to me?' I ended that conversation by saying simply this: 'You know what? Lennay, my Lennay, died on Sept. 12.' "

After the interview, Te'o showed Schaap Twitter direct messages from Tuiasosopo that contained an apology for orchestrating the hoax.

Te'o was asked what he thought should happen to Tuiasosopo.

"I hope he learns," Te'o said. "I hope he understands what he's done. I don't wish an ill thing to somebody. I just hope he learns. I think embarrassment is big enough."

He added: "I'll be OK. As long as my family's OK, I'll be fine."

Schaap asked why Te'o didn't go to see Kekua in the hospital.

"It never really crossed my mind. I don't know. I was in school," he said.

CMON MAN.

Te'o said he "tailored" his stories so people would think he "met her before she passed away."

Naw man you LIED like shit. and you still are.

I wonder if Lenny's "family" ever told him not to come out and made excuses. That's something that happened to my boy who got catfishes in hs. They'd set up these big plans, be talking about them, he'd be telling us all at school, then last minute....shit would come up.


And if this happened why manti didn't talk about it.


Lmao at the sleeping on the phone part. That exact shot is what my boy did...this was before long distance even within Los Angeles. I went to his house one day and his mom three the. Phone at him cause the bill was off the hook.


>Schaap asked why Te'o didn't go to see Kekua in the
>hospital.
>
>"It never really crossed my mind. I don't know. I was in
>school," he said.
>
>CMON MAN.
>
>Te'o said he "tailored" his stories so people would think he
>"met her before she passed away."
>
>Naw man you LIED like shit. and you still are.

Summarizing a two hour un-taped interview in a couple of minutes will do that I suppose.

It's obvious what happened...

Te'o got GOT on some catfish shit....But then when he found out he was being played he went along with it (I think he loved the extra attention he was getting off his dead girlfriend narrative)...And to be real, he was probably too embarrassed to admit the hoax...

Either way, it ain't a good look...But the kid is far from a monster...He's just a dumb fuck...

I doubt either of those will endear him to NFL teams but I don't think he's some crazy sociopath either.

>I doubt either of those will endear him to NFL teams but I
>don't think he's some crazy sociopath either.

I mean you have to understand notated how dumb we think it was, dude was 100 percent all in on this girl.

When this happened to my boy he went into a cave for a long time. And this is someone I grew up with. We lived a few houses away so I could just go over and pop in. We were like fam. I lost contact with him for almost a year. This shit happened to manti during a national championship run season. He couldn't just disappear.

Yea I mean the worst thing is he was naive and dumb. The groupies are gonna be lining up to reel his ass in

Like everyone here hasn't let a story snowball and snowball because you just are scared to come clean.

>Like everyone here hasn't let a story snowball and snowball
>because you just are scared to come clean.

At least nothing nearly approaching this magnitude.

Cause your not in the national spotlight.

If manti wasn't well known and this was just a family thing it wouldn't be news making at all. Guy gets tricked by online gf, simps into relationship, lies about it to keep from embarrassment.

I've seen worse lies perpetuated by friends who were addicted to substances or cheating on their significant others.


My college roommate as much as I loved dude stayed scheming. Dude would break out into a "grandma voice" in the backseat of the car while we were driving to eat to scheme on girls or trying to hustle money from different places.

Me and our other roommate would just bust out laughing like c'mon dude....

>Cause your not in the national spotlight.
>
>If manti wasn't well known and this was just a family thing it
>wouldn't be news making at all.

it wouldn't be news but Y2 suggested we've all let lies snowball on a smaller level and I'm saying no. That's not a fair generalization.

>Guy gets tricked by online gf,
>simps into relationship, lies about it to keep from
>embarrassment.

I understand how it works on an average joe level but this type of comparison doesn't really work in this situation and doesn't happen to everyone.

>
>
>It's obvious what happened...
>
>Te'o got GOT on some catfish shit....But then when he found
>out he was being played he went along with it (I think he
>loved the extra attention he was getting off his dead
>girlfriend narrative)...And to be real, he was probably too
>embarrassed to admit the hoax...
>
>Either way, it ain't a good look...But the kid is far from a
>monster...He's just a dumb fuck...

-------------------------
“The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.”
Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B

...but I'ma need him to have more evidence than a Twitter DM from 3 days ago before I can buy it all the way.

by having her brother and sister tell him she was dead, sick etc

that's what he thought from Dec 6. until January 16. so, ND begins a private investigation after Teo called his coaches on Dec 26. according to the AD, Teo received the call earlier in Dec, but didn't tell the coaches until Dec 26

the tricky thing is the AD never says Lennay was just a guy, but rather that "Lennay" was the creation of a group of people --one of them being the girl Teo spoke to.

http://www.und.com/genrel/011613aaa.html

still think Teo was wrong for fronting in the media after Dec 6

And then there's that whole issue of a ND sponsored fundraiser on behalf of Lennay that occurred after the nc game.

I can see why he needed 3 days and a lawyer present for an un-taped interview

>"Te'o said it affected his play in the game, where Notre Dame lost to Alabama 42-14"

And of course that was coming

>Schaap asked why Te'o didn't go to see Kekua in the hospital.
>
>"It never really crossed my mind. I don't know. I was in
>school," he said.

to me.

"it never occurred to me" is either terrifying or bullshit.

and the Catfishers kept this prank going? sick.

now that we have Teo's statement, it sounds like Deadspin's story came from one of the people involved and not "someone who knew". could be the girl who pretended to be Lennay over the phone. this whole thing seemed like the work of one guy with only occasional assistance from others, but now I'm wondering if the "brother and sister" played a larger role.

that Ronaiah is known for crossdressing. he's probably making shit up but who knows.

ABC and ESPN specifically.

They failed basic BASIC fact checking, because they didn't want to know. Because it was providing them with garbage content that gets ratings.

God I hate ESPN.

Good blogs are 100x the "journalists" that ESPN employees are.

With blindly accepting their explanations now.

Manti could've spoken out immediately after this all went down if it was all so easily explainable. Instead he waits 4 days for a closed room interview with his lawyer and a preselected espn reporter.

Having the interview be closed room with no cameras and Te'os lawyer present and forcing me to accept what espn tells me only adds to my suspicion.

"Check in to this girlfriend. I don't buy it" ?

This story is the first of its kind, relax.

You don't run stories if you haven't talked to the people involved and established basic FACTS.

Ask anyone who works for any kind of media outlet.

excellent

They correctly identified a lot of holes in the story

and also the Ronaiah (?) dude as the one behind the Lennay on line account

but that entire article was directed at Manti

not Ronaiah

I think they may have been heavy handed with accusing Manti intially

it would have been easy enough to just present the facts that they had

without going all in on a Manti was behind this theory

IMO

I think a lot of the disbelief coming from the public is because of the tone of that article

myself, having watched Catfish

it's not that far fetched

that he fell for the Lennay angle

and then kept up appearance with some of his own lies

Unlike ESPN and college football programs, they did their job.

not sure why deadspin would take a L

and I'd have to reread the article but i dont remember them saying flat out that manti was responsible.

they had a quote from some random dude that suggested it was an 80% possibility or whatever

I can't remember if you're the person that hasn't seen Catfish

The overall impression I got from the Deadspin article

is that they were implicating Manti in the hoax

with the motivation being adding votes for the Heisman

and that's how they presented the facts

they had this theory

and were trying to prove it

when a simpler explanation

is the Catfish theory

that Ranaiah just f'd with Manti

Manti fell for it and told some lies to keep up appearances

being embarrassed for his level of involvement in an online relationship

IMO, the way the Deadspin article was written is the reason people are having a hard time accepting that Manti might not have known

they could have just presented the facts

pointed all the holes in the story

shit, they even touched on Ranaiah doing this to other people

but they didn't take that route

they went after the bigger possible story

a week later, the Deadspin article doesn't feel like unbiased journalism

it feels like an agenda

WHO CARES

this isn't a movie or a documentary. this isn't mtv. this is real life.

we have no idea what happened. maybe te'o was in on it, maybe he wasn't. we dont know. we might never know.

deadspin did a great job at uncovering a lot of shit that everyone else missed. not even close to a L.

which of these hypotheses makes the least amount of assumptions

this Ronaiah dude made a fake online profile and fooled Manti into believing Lennay was a real person

or

that Manti was involved in making up the fake girlfriend in an attempt to win the Heisman by getting some sympathy votes

included in the conspiracy are Ronaiah and his family, Manti's family, Notre Dame, etc...

I'll give you a hint

the first one has already been proven

because this Ronaiah dude used the same profile to fool other people

but the Deadspin article didn't go with that theory

they implicated that Manti was complicit in the scam

and chose the second theory

which as you pointed out, has yet to be proven

I just think they sensationalized the story by jumping to that conclusion in the original article

I don't think this would be so damaging to Manti

had they kept it simple

I mean people are putting his name in the same sentence as Lance Armstrong

c'mon

who gives a fuck.

is it interesting yes?
am i laughing ? yes.
DO i want to know the truth? Yes.

But am i mad he won't get on camera and made terms to the interview? Uh no.

Move on niggas, the jokes continue but stop all this crusading over some stupid ass college kids non-relationship.

although i do think its somewhat insulting when the media tries to insult our intelligence with bullshit. and it's natural to want to call them out on it.

te'o doesn't isn't obligated to speak on it. but he wants to regain his reputation so away we go...

he may not have orchestrated the hoax, but he lied consistently and repeatedly about his relationship with "lennay" from day one, to his friends, to his family, to his teammates, to his coaches, and mostly to the media. and not small lies either. he was spinning stories like this girl was his lifelong soulmate who he'd been with for years and couldn't go on without. meanwhile, he'd never met her, he'd only been chatting with for a few months, he didn't bother visiting her on her deathbed ("It never really crossed my mind"), and he didn't bother showing up to her funeral. he milked this thing hard for all the media attention and heisman votes it was worth.

portraying this guy as the victim is a joke. going along with his excuse that he was lying out of embarrassment is a joke. he was soaking up the attention like a sponge and lying right along with ronaiah, whether he was in on the actual hoax or not. he was a willing accomplice in all this-- almost the ringleader when you consider that ronaiah had absolutely nothing to do with putting the story in the media or blowing it up to the levels it got to. that was all 100% te'o. and he's still milking it (now blaming the hoax for his BCS title game play). he's still the accomplice. portraying him as anything else is a lie.

>he was spinning stories like this girl was
>his lifelong soulmate who he'd been with for years

The story has always been: they were online friends for years and only 'got serious' last year. Somehow this week that got blown up to they've been dating for years and how unbelieveable that is.

That's what's been bugging me bout the outrage to this. People so desperate to be mad, they've been putting extras on his extras.

>The story has always been: they were online friends for years
>and only 'got serious' last year.

i dont recall it ever being mentioned that they were 'online friends' until the ND press conference.

Every story and interview about their relationship always implied that they had met before and never gave a hint that it was strictly an on line/long distance relationship or that they had never met or hung out in person.

"They started out as just friends," Te'o's father, Brian, told the Tribune in October 2012.

>"They started out as just friends," Te'o's father, Brian,
>told the Tribune in October 2012.

furthermore we now know the father to be an inaccurate source of info

i dont know who originated it (te'o or his father or whomever) but the story was that they had met at a stanford game where they "exchanged glances".

would love for SOMEBODY to explain the stanford encounter

Yes, I read about the stanfurd encounter as well and am waiting for an explanation? Perhaps Manti made that up as a cover so he didn't have to tell people they met on line because he was ashamed of meeting her on line? Kind of like how he lied to his dad about meeting up with her in Hawaii?

if he lied and made shit up then what exactly are people embellishing.

u said te'o claimed it was internet relationship from the start. that's not true.

As in: just some chick he talked to now and then. He wasn't in an online romantic relationship for three or four years as folks are making it on some 'he *had* to know! he lying!'

They were only 'serious' for a few months, which isn't as mad-making. All that 'love of my life' shit is just him getting hype off the attention. But he never said they dated for years.

I can somewhat understand him not attending it because of it being on a Saturday....somewhat.

However, no one sent him a picture of this supposed funeral? If the love of my life died and I couldn't attend her funeral I would think someone who did attend would send me a photo of the event or the head stone or something. If no one did send me a photo I would certainly ask for one. In this day and age of cell phone cameras and videos I would think someone would have documented something from this "funeral" to send to him or Te'o would ask for a photo.

Wasn't she "buried" in LA? So when ND played SC this year for the final game of the season Te'o didn't want to visit her gravesite? Unless she was supposedly buried somewhere else, I don't understand why Te'o and his family wouldn't stay a few days in LA to meet her family and visit her gravesite.

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2013/01/17/0117-ronaiah-subasset-tmz-3.jpg

Girl in the sunglasses is the same woman he/they were using as Lennay's sister.

If Te'o believes that is a photo of her grave, why didn't he attempt to visit it after the SC game? It was the last game of the season for ND so he would have time to go there with his family.

all of the funerals I've been to

there wasn't a headstone immediately

most graveyards have a period of about 6 months

before the headstone is put in

at least that's been my experience

usually the family will put up a marker in the interim

It isn't in the ground at the time of the burial but they already had it ready and placed shortly after.

However, these funerals weren't held at large cemeterys, they were at small community cemeterys or family cemetery's. So perhaps it is different for large cemetery's.

where cosntanza tried to get the death certificate for a discounted plane ticket and instead showed them a picture of him standing next to the closed casket, lol

Anybody ask for documentary evidence? Or say it's all bullshit til I see a headstone?

Or did people accept it at face value and feel appropriately moved?

We know the end of the movie, so it's all good IN HINDSIGHT to ask why he ain't this or that. He accepted shit at face value until it was obvious he couldn't.

It's a picture of her sister at a funeral. What about that couldn't he take at face value? Why would he say, 'nah I need to see that gravestone or I ain't buying it.'?

not a great comparison

With them. Perhaps someone asked for photos or was sent a photo.

These two things are not nearly the same. Unless that OKP was in a relationship with another poster on here I don't see how they are similar.

Noted.

and then turned into my GF, yes I would ask for a few photos or videos. In this day of cell phone cameras and videos that is not too hard to ask for and expect.

Especially if I can't attend the funeral or at the very least I would visit the grave site after my game against SC to lay some flowers.

>I can somewhat understand him not attending it because of it
>being on a Saturday....somewhat.
>
>However, no one sent him a picture of this supposed funeral?
>If the love of my life died and I couldn't attend her funeral
>I would think someone who did attend would send me a photo of
>the event or the head stone or something. If no one did send
>me a photo I would certainly ask for one. In this day and age
>of cell phone cameras and videos I would think someone would
>have documented something from this "funeral" to send to him
>or Te'o would ask for a photo.
>
>Wasn't she "buried" in LA? So when ND played SC this year for
>the final game of the season Te'o didn't want to visit her
>gravesite? Unless she was supposedly buried somewhere else, I
>don't understand why Te'o and his family wouldn't stay a few
>days in LA to meet her family and visit her gravesite.

Every piece of information that has come out supports that he was a victim.
Which has always been the most logical explanation.
The public educational system has failed you.
You're an idiot.

>You're an idiot.

She didn't exist? So he knew about this whole thing on Dec 6th but in following interviews he continued to talk about her and play it up?

Or if she was supposedly buried in LA/southern California why didn't he attempt to visit her gravesite after playing at SC?

Or his father talking about meeting her in Hawaii?

>She didn't exist? So he knew about this whole thing on Dec
>6th but in following interviews he continued to talk about her
>and play it up?
>

>Or his father talking about meeting her in Hawaii?

watch the video.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8859077/manti-teo-notre-dame-fighting-irish-denies-being-part-hoax-late-girlfriend

>You're an idiot.

and as far as 'information' goes...all we have is the account from te'o and ND, none of which is factual evidence. and both parties are in cover your ass mode...

Espn is also in cover your ass mode as well.

What we really need are those Yahoo! Sports journalist on this. Manti better hope they don't start digging into this story.

from the unnamed ND players who claimed to have known that Te'o never had a gf and was making it up.

so if we're gonna allow unsubstantiated nonsense into the mix then let's put it all out there.

>from the unnamed ND players who claimed to have known that
>Te'o never had a gf and was making it up.

i thought they said that he just embellished their relationship after her death and that they smelled bullshit when she died the same day as the grandmother (and suspected he knew it was untrue at that point as well) but never brought it up to him.

>i thought they said that he just embellished their
>relationship after her death and that they smelled bullshit
>when she died the same day as the grandmother (and suspected
>he knew it was untrue at that point as well) but never brought
>it up to him.

From the article, as i recall it, at some point the players knew he never had a gf and was milking the situation during interviews.

>from the unnamed ND players who claimed to have known that Te'o never had a gf and was making it up.

i thought you were saying that they knew for a fact he made up this girl.

ND hired a private investigator supposedly but their credibility is suspect due to conflict of interests and the recent rape/suicide scandal
the idea that people aren't supposed to be skeptical of a dude that at facilitated a lie (best case scenario) is a little weird

IMO, even though he thought Lennay was real, it was just a convenient relationship which he exploited for the attention.

I mean imagine if she actually was real and died of leukemia. It never occurred to him to visit her? Never visited her grave? Then at the same time he's in the media talking up their relationship. He'd still be a dirtbag for that

personally

I lost someone close to me over the summer

but I was unable to attend the funeral because I had just moved cross country

best believe, when I went home for the holidays I made it a priority to visit her gravesite and pay my respects

The USC game would have been the perfect opportunity had "Lennay" been buried in LA

He was a naive, sheltered, ultra-religious Mormon. So I believe that for as long as he thought the girl was real (however long that may be) he was "in love" with her.

lol.


nah haj, you probably just love manti te'o too much bro.




http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

>"I would ask to talk to her, and the only communication I had
>was through Noah, her brother, and he used her phone," Te'o
>said. "And he would put me supposedly right next to her mouth
>and I could hear the ventilator going. And she would be
>breathing. ... They said every time I was on the phone, they
>would tell me the nurse noticed that whoever was on the phone
>with her, she must have recognized the voice, because she
>would start breathing quicker and I could hear on the phone."
>
>Te'o was told Kekua awoke from the coma in mid-May. From that
>point, the relationship became more serious and they spoke on
>the phone every day.
>

if this is true. Part of what some people dont understand about how this coulda happened is how small the Hawaiian/Polynesian community is--especially online. Its prolly like 2 degrees of separation.

But yea, I could imagine that dude laughing with his boys (and girl) while putting the phone up to the fake ventilator noise. I mean I get how that shit is funny to a certain extent--but he let it go way too far. And yes Manti is naive and dumb for falling for it--but doing that shit with someones emotions is fucked up.


From whats reported dude tried to hook a lot of other people and Manti is the only one who got hooked this deep but he had lots of fishlines out.


Dude better lay low cause Im sure the Hawaian/Polynesian is ready to fuck him up.

>But yea, I could imagine that dude laughing with his boys (and
>girl) while putting the phone up to the fake ventilator noise.
>I mean I get how that shit is funny to a certain extent--but
>he let it go way too far. And yes Manti is naive and dumb for
>falling for it--but doing that shit with someones emotions is
>fucked up.

I mean in this situation there was a shitload of time spent and involvement of other people...

it's hard to understand why somebody would go to this kind of effort without any sort of monetary gain. extortion would make a ton of sense but there has obviously been no claim of that.

te'o gonna lose money on this though. which also makes his 'forgive and forget' stance hard to explain.

logic doesn't apply

people do this shit everyday

I believe you. people get off on all sorts of crazy shit.

it's just weird way to spend your time, IMO.

Who would do this to someone?

Literally misery for your own amusement.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0119/ncf_t_teolennaytweets_400.jpg

One of the messages is way over 140 characters. The account was deleted and the username was hijacked by a troll a couple days ago, so the person makes sure to say "it's the 16th." And I read that someone checked if Manti was following the account on the day it was sent, and he wasnt (meaning he wouldn't be able to receive DM's from that account)

I'ma need more than a 3-day-old face-saving message from his alleged co-conspirator for me to buy it completely. I'm at like 70%.

To do some search to figure it.

M

...and the huge one is two 140 character messages mashed together. I dunno what that means.

lol, what a crock of shit

And Jeremey Schaap clearly believed him, what else do you want?

"The brutally unsentimental retelling of the Manti Te'o story feels like an open wound, a cautionary tale that teaches an unfortunate lesson: Trust is dangerous.
Yet some of the speculative detritus was swept away Friday night when Te'o sat down with ESPN's Jeremy Schaap for a 2½-hour, off-camera interview. The sprawling dialogue answered many questions but made the shocking turn of events no less dumbfounding.
What did seem to emerge is that Te'o was not complicit in the hoax that created a fake girlfriend for him so she could die a fake death and inspire Te'o and others who heard the fake story."

cause i'm not believing shit this dude says

so according to the hoax believers Te'o only lied about meeting the girl to family and friends in order to not look like a dweeb?
even though online dating is a multi-million dollar industry in 2013 and pretty common place?
iono i guess that could happen.
but then i have to question why he felt the need to introduce the public to this girl at all. why not just have your little online relationship on the low and be done with it. he knew what was going on was weird yet still felt compelled to bring it to a NATIONAL stage?
just seems weird. plus he couldn't even keep up with the complexity of his lies.
the benefit of the doubt this dude would need is a little bit too much for me.

a little embarrassing for people to admit they met on line. I have a friend who met a girl on a dating site, he told me but hasn't told any of his other friends about it and I'm not sure if he told his family how they met.

knowing they use it...

>

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"It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"

Doesn't allow the body language interpreters to analyze it and see that he's lying.

Also a scripted interview is a good move. it gives the appearance of being open and forthcoming.

so all those missed tackles shouldn't count

Perhaps Nick Saban and Eddie Lacy were also part of this hoax?

"Te'o said it did not affect his play in the game, where Notre Dame lost to Alabama 42-14."

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8859077/manti-teo-notre-dame-fighting-irish-denies-being-part-hoax-late-girlfriend

yall making sht load of assumptions and just doing way too much in general

"Due to a transcription error, how Manti Te'o felt he played in the BCS title game was misrepresented in an earlier version of this story. Te'o said he was not affected by the story surrounding a girlfriend hoax during the game."

apparently there was other stuff in that article that was edited way after the fact

I don't think it would be that hard to do after watching this whole comedy of errors.

http://deadspin.com/5906658/is-an-espn-columnist-scamming-people-on-the-internet

http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

• A group of people related to Tuiasosopo showed up at the team hotel for the Discover BCS National Championship Game in Miami. Te'o said he knew they were at the hotel because the group took photos in the hotel lobby. Te'o said it affected his play in the game, where Notre Dame lost to Alabama 42-14.

With his lawyer and others going over each question and answer with him.

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this guy is a headcase at the very least.
a lot of this story is very hard to believe.

he wouldn't make it with the NY media

dude. no disrespect but break this down for me please! te'o?

hahaha!
what would you like me to break down?


from what i gather, this pacific islander community is rather close-knit
a subsection of that would be those that've played collegiate or pro football
wtf is happening


yes, not sure what you're referring to tho
are you saying matin should have known?


ah ok, my bad for presuming then
*manti


i have no idea
ok based on what ive been reading, at the very least he was complicit
seems as if his family friend catfished him, he dropped some nuggets in the media before he knew the extent of it, and then the heisman came knocking and he rolled with it hoping the ND/sympathy machine would roll toward a stiffarm trophy


hmm - from what I've gathered from his cousins (Manti and I grew up in the same community), he didn't know the guy that catfished him
and he found out before the ceremony but didn't tell anyone till later
despite lying to his parents and everyone else abt meeting his girlfriend
in person


isn't that questionable though?


it is


lying to your own parents about meeting the girl? plus after a stanford game? how far do we keep the visiting team


well, she supposedly died before the stanford game


but they supposedly met as they "locked eyes" after a stanford game!

i think this is part of the reason i'm so invested ... nevermind that stepfan taylor scored in that 3OT and ND was NOT undefeated this season

hahaha! yeah, he def lied abt any interactions with her. but apparently the convos he had with her were that amazing


so i'm cynical in thinking it was part of a collegiate/NBC/notre dame package to push national media exposure and a heisman?
on the same day as his grandmother too?! that's the part that makes me hope he wasn't in on it because that's just dirty

it sure fits the bill
I mean, part of me thinks he had to know
but I really think he was over his head
thats a lot to deal with at 21/22
right? how does your girlfriend get into a life-threatening car accident in may and you never go see her during your offseason
she apparently told him not to see her

for 4 or 5 months though?

I know... so weird

when does camp start? august or something
yeah

yeah i think he got played but he knew earlier and decided to string it along for that heisman
sympathy votes
nbc loved it too! and you know how invested in the golden dome they are
espn smh

I really hope that wasn't the case but we don't have any evidence refuting that
still so many holes in his story

Snip snip here, a nip and tuck there, everything wraps up neatly.

They could have been founded as SPN but clearly they
are in the entertainment business. So maybe we should
dilute our expectations of absolute journalistic integrity from
them. They are in the business of entertaining and they love
to sell a great story.

There's no where else to turn for the type of coverage they
provide in my opinion. It's pretty close to a monopoly.
Sure there's fox sports and the other major networks like
CBS and NBC but really, it's not the same.

the whole focus on whether or not Te'o is credible after the fact

IS the coverup to distract from the fact that it never should have been possible

http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

so how can they be expected to give honest reporting?

deadline.com:

>Katie Couric To Interview On-Camera Manti Te’o And His Parents About Girlfriend Hoax

By NELLIE ANDREEVA | Sunday January 20, 2013 @ 11:55am PST

The second “big get” interview in as many weeks has landed outside the broadcast networks’ news divisions, once the go-to place for most figures at the center of a controversy. Katie Couric will conduct the first on-camera interview with Notre Dame football star Manti Te’o and his parents since the tragic story of Te’o's girlfriend was exposed as a fraud. (The athlete did an off-camera interview with ESPN on Friday). The interview will air Thursday on Couric’s syndicated talk show. Previews for the chat will air on ABC News platforms, Good Morning America, World News and Nightline.

Earlier this week, disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong admitted to doping in an interview with Oprah Winfrey on her cable network OWN.

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I love Viacom.

not manufacture it
some shameful shit right here