should've known one of you baseball nerds (and I say that with the highest regard) would point that out, but I was just going for a player who's HOF credentials were well-established (even if 7th highest HOF vote % is crazy high)

that's basically my point with Jeter. the people who complain about how overrated he is always seem to overlook the fact that he has actually been a great player and would be a lock for Cooperstown based on the numbers alone regardless.

And I'm with you on Raines. I'm actually kindof annoyed that most of the HOF vote talk (besides steroids) has been about Biggio's candidacy while Raines has hardly been mentioned (I'm talking on-air discussion, not the internets). And I really like Biggio. But Raines is getting jobbed.