He wasn't too bad on defense either, it's just that one 2b a decade gets in the hall, and his career coincided with Joe Morgan's, so he's on the outside looking in. Gwynn really is overrated, he hit a ton of singles and rarely walked. Raines actually reached base more times in his career than Gwynn did, hit 35 more home runs, and stole almost 500 more bases while getting caught stealing only 21 more times. Gwynn is a .338/.388/.459 player, Raines is a .294/.385/.425, 1 gets 97% of the HOF vote, the other can't get ahead of Jack Morris on the ballot. With these two, as with Jeter and Lou, I think their levels of "ratedness" should fall somewhere in between where they are.

Jeter's level of perception benefits greatly from being a Yankee and playing with enough other HOFers get to the postseason every year and win a few rings. If he has the same career in Kansas City and never makes the playoffs, where would he be on the public's radar?