Don't believe me?

Fight me about it.

****spits Great Muta mist right in your eyes & karate chops you in the sternum***

I don't know if its an ability issue or a desire issue. Honestly you hope its an ability issue because you can just work around that. Theres 60 years of NBA history that tells us you can't fix bad heart on a big man.

Not sure if thats a good thing or a bad thing for a Center, but its a fact.

Here's the leaders from last year http://weaksideawareness.wordpress.com/2011/05/15/taking-charges-offensive-fouls-drawn-in-2010-11/

Grant Hill PHO 80 2409 65
Jose Barea DAL 81 1669 58
Derek Fisher LAL 82 2297 54
Glen Davis BOS 78 2298 54
Nick Collison OKC 71 1524 51
Devin Harris TOT 71 2254 49
Manu Ginobili SAS 80 2426 48
Ersan Ilyasova MIL 60 1505 47
Blake Griffin LAC 82 3112 46
Gerald Wallace TOT 71 2693 42
Wesley Matthews POR 82 2758 42
Corey Brewer TOT 69 1510 40
Monta Ellis GSW 80 3227 40
Danilo Gallinari TOT 62 2104 39
DeMarcus Cousins SAC 81 2309 39
Beno Udrih SAC 79 2734 38
Chris Paul NOH 80 2880 38
Jon Brockman MIL 63 677 38
James Jones MIA 81 1549 37
Josh Smith ATL 77 2645 36
Anthony Tolliver MIN 65 1362 36
Raja Bell UTA 68 2097 36
Marc Gasol MEM 81 2586 35

I'm surprised Heinz is the best selling ketchup because I prefer the flavor of Hunts.

and then there's derek fisher.

cousins could play 20 seasons and not accomplish what walton did.

to have Big Cuz in a Sixers uniform.

Lol

Lol indeed

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=couside01&p2=monrogr01


But there's not a big enough sample size.

However you want it though. He's just better.

That's why when there were thoughts of him wanting to be traded earlier in the year. The Pistons were quick to call.

they werent trading greg monroe for cuz

Greg is the consolation.

overall, their stats are practically identical. Cuz rebounds a bit more, but Monroe fouls less and passes better.

advanced metrics show cuz scores more because he uses more possessions and the difference in passing is pretty substantial. the charges are an interesting stat, but their D ratings are pretty much identical and monroe's O rating is higher (though that's partly a result of usage rates). Monroe's shitting on him in win shares. but thats all based on believing advanced metrics which are a bit shaky in the nba.

both are on shitty ass squads, but at least Cuz doesn't have to be the leading scorer and one of the top assist men for his squad. then again, evans and thornton are gunners.

but holy shit. Monroe's shooting .511 and Cuz is at .437. FROM THE CENTER POSITION? foh. that's awful.

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It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilarious.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=320314023

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It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilarious.

I'll grab my temporary L.

I was thinking about mentioning it in the NBA Observations post. But I'd rather make you do the work.

This is Greg Monroe's ceiling


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this is Damarcus Cousins ceiling


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Demarcus Cousins

he's working his way up the list. But for a team winning this year, there are a bunch of bigs I'd probably take over him. Long term, he might just be top three.

My fear, however, is that he slips into the Big Al Jefferson mode of getting his but not helping his team as much as he should/could.

Al doesn't care either way.

No diss to Cuz, who after the booting of his coach has really excelled this season. It just used to be that the third best center in the league was Ewing or the Admiral, or even more recently Zo or Mutombo.

They just don't make em like they used to.

http://tinyurl.com/7n28zau

Cuz is more PF than center.

You on that Tim Duncan right now.

D

if they get a center worth his snuff...expect him to float back to his natural position of Power Forward

Why?

He can play both, but he's playing Center.

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King Tee - Tha Triflin Album

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If he could just get Scola out the way.

Like, all the time. He gets pouty and takes plays off. But when he's engaged, dam is he a beast.

Cut down on the bitch fits.

And that baby fat is fading.

Those hands and quick feet are pretty much unmatched.

>Cut down on the bitch fits.


That shit is all-time high with his better play now. He fouled out the game against Memphis on 2 RIDICULOUS crybaby fouls.

http://tinyurl.com/8xl2yj7

http://tinyurl.com/85kl8xs


Cuz coming for #2

i've only watched 1 kings game this season

He's learning now.

But there are games when he thinks he's a shooting guard cuz he can shoot from 20 feet away.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/10/01/demarcus-cousins-sacramento-kings/index.html

After busy summer, Cousins ready to take his place among NBA elite

Story Highlights
DeMarcus Cousins spent summer practicing with Team USA and getting into shape
He enters camp in great shape, believes he's ready to join elite group of centers
With drama behind him, Cousins is certain he and Tyreke Evans can carry Kings
SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Of course there's a dog living in the wine cellar.

This is, after all, the home of enigmatic Sacramento Kings center DeMarcus Cousins. Blake Griffin may not be welcome here, but all things unconventional and against the grain most certainly are. Not that there's no normalcy to be found in the two-story, five-bedroom abode.

Here in this quiet neighborhood a few miles away from his basketball home on the other side of Interstate 5, there's the standard big-screen television and the obligatory PlayStation 3 that are staples in the home of any pro athlete these days. Pictures of his past hang in the hallway with framed magazine covers (Sports Illustrated among them) highlighting his exploits at Kentucky. In the living room, two large paintings of Cousins wearing home and road Kings uniforms are the centerpieces of adjacent walls.

Loso, a white English bulldog with large brown spots and, of course, a Kings collar, rests nearby behind the metal gate with rods that look like vines. The resident alpha dog, meanwhile, settles into the family room sofa to discuss his summer and the notion that he could join the NBA's elite this season.

AMICK: Cousins, other players poised for strong seasons

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Before the first question can even be completed, Cousins -- looking lean with a 6-foot-11 frame that is nearly 20 pounds lighter than it was at the end of last season -- provides a reminder as to why he's rattled so many cages in recent years. He is forever candid and uncouth, and, in this case, quick to correct the premise of a reporter's first question.

His experience with the U.S. select team in Las Vegas in July won't be remembered as a positive one, he insists, and his well-publicized dust-up with USA Basketball chairman Jerry Colangelo is to blame.

"No, it wasn't ," Cousins interjected unapologetically. "No."

During the week in which the select squad played against the Olympic team as training for the London Olympics, Cousins drew criticism for being too physical in scrimmages. Colangelo told reporters that Cousins "has some growing up to do." Cousins later approached Colangelo to discuss their rift.

"I didn't enjoy it," he said of the experience. "I went out there, and ... I'm not going to say I didn't learn anything from it, because I did. But it was just, in my mind, another political battle. I learned more about politics. I saw the work ethic of the so-called elite in the league, and I took some notes from that and took that back with me. But as far as the rest of it? No.

"Honestly, the scrimmages were one-sided the whole time. To even have a chance, you had to play hard as hell. We were out there getting our heads knocked off, and if they're going to play physical, then I'm going to play physical back. I'm not out there trying to start fights -- just trying to stand on my own. But I guess the ignorance of people is they take it as being immature."

Cousins was battling for the Olympic spot that opened when Griffin went down with a knee injury. (Griffin has become something of an arch nemesis in Cousins' mind, their one-sided tiff coming to a head last season when Cousins deemed Griffin "an actor" who is "babied" by the NBA.) While Cousins eventually lost out to another former Kentucky big man, No. 1 pick Anthony Davis, his tough play ultimately won him some fans.

"He's had a couple really good days here back-to-back," Colangelo said after the select team camp. "His play, his demeanor, his conduct, everything."

More than two months later, Kings basketball president Geoff Petrie agreed that Cousins seemed to take a step forward this offseason.

"It has the potential for a really significant growth year for him," Petrie told SI.com. "On the physical side for sure, he really consistently worked on his conditioning, played every day for the past couple weeks here getting ready. He's shooting the ball very well. He's coming into camp in the best shape I've ever seen him, really.

"So if we can combine the physical improvement with some skill improvement and some mental improvement, then there could be some real growth. ... It's all still in the development phase. He's a player where the elevator for him can still go way up, and we'll keep working with him to try to get him there."

The list of elite NBA centers is a short one: the Lakers' Dwight Howard and Philadelphia's Andrew Bynum. But the idea that Cousins is closing fast in the big-man race is as real as the sneer on his face when he was asked to argue on his own behalf.

"I'm not going to even speak on" who is the best big man in the game, said Cousins, who averaged 18.1 points, 10.9 rebounds and 1.2 blocks last season for the 22-44 Kings. "Whoever you consider the best in the game, just check my game against theirs. Go look at the game stats and you tell me.

"My game speaks for itself. Regardless of our team's record, their team's record, or who made the playoffs or whatever, I'm one of the best big men in this game right now."

Cousins' trainer, Keith Williams, believes his client has turned a corner.

"I think a light has clicked on," he said as he sat near Cousins in his home. "It's not as bright as we want it to be, but it's getting there."

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Posted: Monday October 1, 2012 2:34PM ; Updated: Monday October 1, 2012 6:48PM

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DeMarcus Cousins (cont.)

Should Cousins become a mainstay on the Western Conference All-Star team, he has the potential to be an All-Interview regular as well.

Sometimes surly, other times comedic or insightful, and always unfiltered, Cousins is a reporter's dream when it comes to -- as the kids say -- keeping it real. In a 30-minute chat, he didn't hold back on a number of touchy topics.

• Cousins revealed for the first time that his former girlfriend from his hometown of Mobile, Ala., gave birth to his son, Amir, five months ago. It was, to be clear, one of the few times in the interview that he offered a hearty smile, speaking of how fatherhood had changed his perspective:

"It's fun. I'm enjoying it. You've got to grow up fast. It's an added responsibility. Now you're not just a role model for the fans, you're a role model for someone who is actually looking up to you. It changes your mindset."

• On his distant memories of Paul Westphal, the former Kings coach who consistently battled with Cousins before he was fired seven games into last season:

"Every chance get, they bring it back up, never accepting the fact that maybe it was Westphal and it wasn't DeMarcus. But hell, we're going to stick with DeMarcus, to say it was DeMarcus. I haven't had an incident since, so you tell me.

"We've moved on, and we've gotten better from it. But I don't feel like I was treated right in that whole situation."

• On his summer workout routine that has drawn so much praise from his Kings bosses:

"I basically doubled up my workouts. Even when wasn't in town, I still made sure I worked out. I was in the gym, running every night, watching the way I eat, watching my calorie count. Every little small thing.

"We haven't really worried about the weight, but I don't want to overdo it. I'm watching what I eat, trying not to eat too many heavy meals. I wasn't . Well, I was, but I wasn't as disciplined."

Last offseason and during the season under Westphal, Cousins said, "I put in the work but there was nothing positive coming out of it. No matter how much I did, it was never good enough. I wanted to be good. I wanted to be great. I wanted to be in the best shape. But at the same time, if I don't have the support system that's there and that's also trying to help me get there, then what can I do? What I'm saying is that was the Westphal era. Now we all have a goal, we know where we want to be. Me and coach are on the same page, so it's easier to get it done."

• On the team and, specifically, the dynamic between him and fourth-year guard Tyreke Evans:

"At the end of the day, everybody in that locker room knows this team is myself and Tyreke's. I don't give a about no articles . This team goes as far as we carry it."

• On the Lakers' new Super Team:

"That's whatever. I don't care. Dwight, Andrew, same thing. That's something they have to work out. I couldn't care less about the Lakers."

• On playing in the frontcourt with rookie power forward Thomas Robinson, the Kansas product who fell to fifth in the draft after being projected as high as No. 2:

"His motor is crazy. That alone will help him. I really see him being like Paul Millsap. He's going to help us out a lot as well. He's not really the political type . He's going to get straight to the chase. He's got a lot to prove. He came in the league the same way I did -- thinking like, 'Why is no one else believing in me? Why did I drop down so much?' He's definitely got a killer-instinct mindset, which I like, and he's trying to prove people wrong."

http://youtu.be/g0MnHd4JFIw

Cool, he's Big Baby Davis

Stop.I know you rep your boys.But stop.It will never happen for dude and I'll put money on that
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But we traded Bogut for Monta.

Cuz will never be a top player on a good team.
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horrible TS%, lots of turnovers and poor shot-blocker. but the talent is there.

Zero

He'll never block shots either.

as someone who likes to see headcases and weirdos succeed, i'd like to have big cuz become a force. but there are real problems with his game right now. still, in the right place i think he'd be great. AS IN NOT IN SACRAMENTO

Maybe a former All-Star or something like that.

Healthy Bynum (oxymoron?), too.

I'm not going to do too much more thinking about this, I've already knocked him down twice as far.

Cousins was the one Kentucky played I really liked in recent years but his game is still a mess IMO. He will put together some nice stat lines and obviously has a lot of talent plus some arrogance (call it confidence if you want). But overall, eh, he is just scratching the surface of what he could do and a good team wouldn't benefit from the way he plays right now.

Strange

Trust me dude, I would love to see Cousins surpass Howard. I have never been a Howard fan and of course now that he is a Laker I would love to see him fail miserably.

But Cousins is still a ways from any sort of consistency. He is an explosive talent. Like I said I was hoping the Sixers would take him over Turner, from a talent standpoint he was much better but obviously they went with Turner because he seemed more stable. That's still probably true but on the floor they are both all over the place.

I just don't see Cousins as No. 3 RIGHT TODAY, he could be the best in the league though if he maximizes his potential and gets his mind right.

ive been saying since his rookie year, if Dude played with a quality PG, he would easily avg 20 and 10.

I'm hoping, he's changed.

from Joe 'Barely Cares' to Boogie 'Cares Too Much'

Do you think he still is 3rd best C? Outside of D12, who is ahead of him? Brook and Hibbert (who scored 1 point yesterday)?

But I'd have him more as the 2nd best right now.

The only Center I could honestly put ahead of of him and knock him down to 3 with no questions would be Bynum.

But is nowhere near hibbert or gasol in terms if ability to be a defensive presence and clog the paint- which is an important thing for Cs.


A >But I'd have him more as the 2nd best right now.
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>The only Center I could honestly put ahead of of him and knock
>him down to 3 with no questions would be Bynum.

at the rim.

And I could also say he's a much better rebounder than they are. And that's a part of defense.

End of game he was jawing with Javale. Before it could go anywhere, but shaq cooled him down.

Boogie will be boogie. But they may have someone to keep him reasonably in check.


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Same as it ever was!

but he won't. they'll be bad. prolly gonna keep him out the all-star game too. oh well...

year 5? maybe? it's crazy. HE is crazy.

You be sitting their all weekend with 2 hoop earrings and a thick turtleneck sweater cheezing watching all of the All Star festivities.

i can't nail you down on ANY of your guys. i think you said wall and AD gonna lead their teams to better records than Ky, but for me that's weak, because it's not gonna happen. it's anti-climactic. so, gimme some numbers, SOMETHING. i need to know.

Wins are generic? Lol

And you're rocking the Charisma Counter?

wall folded and tried to pad...as usual

I was flipping to good performances all night long. Wall had a bad game, but Bledsoe, Kanter, A.D., were all smile inducing.

you know the feeling of having multiple players from your college team beast out on the same night in the NBA...um, welcome to the club, i guess?

guys did. I saw Kyrie almost had a double double..............Almost.

Hey when ANY of your dudes ball out in the Playoffs, we can reconnect.

Go search for some Laettner box scores on the Hawks in 96. It won't matter.

>guys did. I saw Kyrie almost had a double
>double..............Almost.

oh, stats matter when they matter, huh...your guy got one...he padded like crazy to get it, but he got it. AND LOST

>Hey when ANY of your dudes ball out in the Playoffs, we can
>reconnect.

did batty not hit six threes? crucial three 2 years running. 2 rings. could SWEAR booz averages around 20 and 10 CAREER playoffs.

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>Go search for some Laettner box scores on the Hawks in 96. It
>won't matter.

there's REALITY and there's hurt feelings.

***shrugs***

And every playoffs a bench player shows out for a game or two. Shane is Danny Green. Congratulations.

(except Danny is a starter.....so he's not Danny either)

different between shane is danny is bank account and rings

So I guess we all gotta get our moments as the 8th man on a title team.

so why you even commenting on the finals?

all the real contenders have dukies, so...holla at me in june, when you preparing for your next trough of role players to be cysed at the draft.

with your non-sense.

You sly agenda ninja you. Continue to read on.

We done. You have no response for Boogie.

I have ONE response for ALL these dudes you cyse every year like something gonna change.

He's better than ALL of them.

http://tinyurl.com/mkglmvx

http://tinyurl.com/mwjowpa

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emotions.

A lot of teams passed up on him because of that. Sucks he is in Sac

But he was a beast last night. He's not going to win DPOY anytime soon but his footwork & hands on the offensive end is incredible.

had me hyped.

And the back to back Isaiah 3's. It's cliché by now, but this team looks a lot different from last season. I still think .500 on the season would be overachieving, but I wouldn't be surprised if they got there.

He needs a veteran coach / teammate to show him the rope. Considering his skill-set I don't see why he can't be a modern day/bigger Sir Charles with some guidance.

a stud with the right coaching and attitude adjustment. that's hardly news. i am rooting for the guy though, too much talent to go to waste. i think comparing him to sheed, zbo, webber, etc, that's about right, he's a guy who HAS it but doesnt GET it yet.

getting to the line a ton.

rebounding, assisting, defending, all improved.

the light bulb came on. he's learning the art of dominance.

Not only has he improved his 3-pointer by basically 20% since entering the NBA, he shoots it like, what, between 5 and 8 times a game? For a guy his size who's still as tough on the boards as he is, that's insane. And he's doing nearly 6 dimes a game on top of it?

One of the most remarkable player improvements of any player active in the NBA today. He was a tough traditional big entering the NBA, but he's become so much more.

He keeps pushing himself to get better.

like...geez, is this for real?

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http://tinyurl.com/ybg9wyzg