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727958, RE: Nice review. Couple of friendly but substantial disagreements here:
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Feb-17-18 09:38 PM
>>First things first, hats off to Coogler and all parties
>>involved - the pacing, the framing, the costume design, the
>>acting...all top notch.
>>
>>I only had 3 issues:
>>
>>1 - MBJ himself was so dope but I don't think he was given
>>much to work with for the first half of the movie. Obviously
>>we know his motivations and resentment bc it's told to us
>but
>>it wasn't earned imo - his return to Wakanda didn't resonate
>>emotionally for me. His character arch really did open up
>in
>>the 2nd half as we got more time & development with his
>>character.
>>
>>2 - Ulysses' eventual death was pretty weak. After all the
>>stuff this dude has survived and been through, you'd think
>it
>>would take a little more
>
>Disagree.
>
>
>1) That scene was symbolic -- it rid the film of the
>only *classical* bad guy, and so the rest of the movie is
>the film walking the audience through moral ambiguity. To
>me it was like:
>
>"Oh, y'all expected some standard good guy/bad guy shit?
>Well, here's what we think about that. Enjoy the rest of
>this complex, beautiful movie."
>
>1) Klaw was dealt with swiftly and in the
>same backstabber ass way that he usually deals with people.
>And that scene QUICKLY affirmed how gully Killmonger was;
>we needed that, because before that we didn't know if he
>was just a petty jewelry thief.
>
>
>>3 - Easy manipulative writing with the back to back scene of
>>Wakabi being disappointed with Tchala for not bringing
>Ulysses
>>back and then MBJ shows up at his doorstep with the body.
>
>Nah, those weren't back to back. In fact, I'm sorta
>surprised you missed the sequence because it was clear
>and very poignant:
>
>The MBJ scene with him dropping off Klaw came RIGHT
>after we learned about WHO HE WAS (the heart wrenching
>closeup with the camera zooming down from the Oakland
>apartment building to the little boy playing hoop). Pretty
>sure the next scene was Killmonger dragging the body. It
>was perfectly sequenced and profound. Both times I've
>seen it, the audience is gasping when they learn that
>his father was killed. And then it moves perfectly into
>the body dropoff scene.
>
>>Overall, so damn good. Need to see this again to soak it all
>>in.
>
>Yeah, I've seen it twice.
>
>My only issue is that I would have enjoyed 30 more minutes.
>I didn't NEED it, but the film had my attention enough,
>enough interesting shit was going on, that I could have
>taken it. Can't blame Coogler/the editors -- they were
>prolly like: "Man, if this is anywhere close to 2:30, no one
>will see it." I totally get it.
>

Man it’s 2:15 as is nobody wants to see a 3 hr movie not even Black Panther lol