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727957, Nice review. Couple of friendly but substantial disagreements here:
Posted by Orbit_Established, Sat Feb-17-18 08:57 PM
>First things first, hats off to Coogler and all parties
>involved - the pacing, the framing, the costume design, the
>acting...all top notch.
>
>I only had 3 issues:
>
>1 - MBJ himself was so dope but I don't think he was given
>much to work with for the first half of the movie. Obviously
>we know his motivations and resentment bc it's told to us but
>it wasn't earned imo - his return to Wakanda didn't resonate
>emotionally for me. His character arch really did open up in
>the 2nd half as we got more time & development with his
>character.
>
>2 - Ulysses' eventual death was pretty weak. After all the
>stuff this dude has survived and been through, you'd think it
>would take a little more

Disagree.


1) That scene was symbolic -- it rid the film of the
only *classical* bad guy, and so the rest of the movie is
the film walking the audience through moral ambiguity. To
me it was like:

"Oh, y'all expected some standard good guy/bad guy shit?
Well, here's what we think about that. Enjoy the rest of
this complex, beautiful movie."

1) Klaw was dealt with swiftly and in the
same backstabber ass way that he usually deals with people.
And that scene QUICKLY affirmed how gully Killmonger was;
we needed that, because before that we didn't know if he
was just a petty jewelry thief.


>3 - Easy manipulative writing with the back to back scene of
>Wakabi being disappointed with Tchala for not bringing Ulysses
>back and then MBJ shows up at his doorstep with the body.

Nah, those weren't back to back. In fact, I'm sorta
surprised you missed the sequence because it was clear
and very poignant:

The MBJ scene with him dropping off Klaw came RIGHT
after we learned about WHO HE WAS (the heart wrenching
closeup with the camera zooming down from the Oakland
apartment building to the little boy playing hoop). Pretty
sure the next scene was Killmonger dragging the body. It
was perfectly sequenced and profound. Both times I've
seen it, the audience is gasping when they learn that
his father was killed. And then it moves perfectly into
the body dropoff scene.

>Overall, so damn good. Need to see this again to soak it all
>in.

Yeah, I've seen it twice.

My only issue is that I would have enjoyed 30 more minutes.
I didn't NEED it, but the film had my attention enough,
enough interesting shit was going on, that I could have
taken it. Can't blame Coogler/the editors -- they were
prolly like: "Man, if this is anywhere close to 2:30, no one
will see it." I totally get it.


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