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710900, I agree to disagree
Posted by Pamalama, Fri Apr-15-16 05:51 PM
>>What Chuck did with Mesa Verde was personal. Like Jimmy
>said,
>>if you wanna go after me, fine, but leave Kim out of it.
>Why
>>did he have to punish Kim? I am interested to see how Kim
>>reacts once she finds out Chuck is hurt though.
>
>See post #291.
>
>But I agree, what Chuck did was personal. It was to teach
>Jimmy a lesson, and Kim was in the crossfire. From Chuck's
>point of view though... is he wrong? He went into that
>meeting with Mesa Verde with the mentality that the company
>would be in its best hands at HHM, which is perfectly
>reasonable, knowing Jimmy's methods. It seemed like the head
>of Mesa Verde wants to do everything on the up and up, which
>would have been fine as only Kim would be handling the client.
> But Chuck didn't know that.... so how can you blame him for,
>in his eyes, protecting the client's best interests?
>
Kim was caught twice...once when she was delegated to the mailroom and with Mesa Verde. I'm pretty sure Chuck wasn't thinking about MV's best interest, but getting back at Jimmy through Kim

>>I'll admit my memory is shaky at best, so I don't know the
>>timeline from Jimmy passing the bar to current day, but I
>feel
>>Chuck wants Jimmy to be his caregiver and that's it.
>
>Come on. That's the blinders talking. Chuck wants to be
>Jimmy's brother, and that's it. There's nothing that shows he
>only wants Jimmy as a caregiver. There's a reason why he
>relies on Ernesto, why he calls Ernesto first, not Jimmy.

Ernesto works for HHM and brings him stuff. Jimmy is the one that calms Chuck down and 'cares' for him through the panic attacks. No way can Ernesto handle that.
>
>He loves Jimmy because Jimmy is a good person, he just never
>wants to ever have professional ties to Jimmy.

I think he loves him, but doesn't like him. Not to mention, I think he depends on Jimmy quite a bit.

>> As I
>>mentioned in a previous post, Chuck doesn't leave the house
>>unless Jimmy's involved. Jimmy will screw up on his
>own...he
>>doesn't need Chuck to show the world what a screw-up he can
>>be.
>
>Sure, I agree. Chuck also came out early in the season to see
>how Jimmy handled Sandpiper, and Jimmy handled himself pretty
>well (in part because he lied about his solicitation methods).
> It wasn't until the commercial that he reminded everyone he
>was still Slippin Jimmy.
>
>>If Chuck wouldn't have pressured him so much at HHM, I
>>think Jimmy would've been ok.
>
>What "pressure" are you talking about at HHM? Their divide
>started when Jimmy tried to fast track himself into a lawyer
>position at HHM. He didn't want to pay his dues in the
>mailroom (maybe futilely) so he struck out on his own.


This is the pressure I'm talking about. That wasn't a 'hey, just checking to see how your day went' visit. That was a 'I'm watching you' visit. Jimmy's whole attitude changed when he saw Chuck. In no way was Chuck being supportive.
>
>
>>I get it's his company, but if
>>the HHM could survive a phobia to Electrodes, they surely
>can
>>survive Jimmy.
>
>Come on, you don't actually believe this. Everything we've
>seen in two seasons shows that Jimmy would have jeopardized
>the company's reputation sooner or later. Chuck was
>absolutely right in denying Jimmy a real job at HHM, precisely
>for what happened at Davis & Main. The commercial seems like
>a small thing, but it's obvious Jimmy flouts the rules any
>time it suits him. That shit is not kosher if you're trying
>to run a prestigious law firm.

Eh, Law firms always massage the rules all the time. They were just mad he didn't run it by them first and that's fine. Jimmy was trying to get fired at that point

To me, it appears Jimmy works to right the wrongs of the assholes of the world and to help clients/people he cares about. Chuck comes across as pompous crab and jealous.