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514473, LOST: The Last Recruit.
Posted by FortifiedLive, Tue Apr-20-10 06:48 PM
got prompted to start this after watching a Seinfeld re-run (The Burning) and spotting Jin Kwon playing a medical student.


"Alliances are forged and broken as the Locke and Jack camps merge."


hmm, i hope a lot of people die.
514479, Is this title in reference to RJCC?
Posted by SoulHonky, Tue Apr-20-10 08:01 PM
Now THERE'S a twist nobody would see coming.
514483, LMAO
Posted by spades, Tue Apr-20-10 08:52 PM
514484, Best moment of the episode
Posted by Marauder21, Tue Apr-20-10 08:56 PM
Jin and Sun reunite FINALLY. No foolin, this is heartwarming shit you guys!

Worst moment of the episode: "Looks like someone found her voice."

Cmon
514487, That was possibly the worst line of the whole series
Posted by Y2Flound, Tue Apr-20-10 08:59 PM

<-----Iron Sheik fuck Nas in the ass, make him humble
514488, I was actually referring to the fact that she regained English with love
Posted by Marauder21, Tue Apr-20-10 09:01 PM
but that line was also terrible. Really terrible.
514490, Yea the whole thing was the worst moment in the entire series
Posted by Y2Flound, Tue Apr-20-10 09:08 PM
The line and the fact that finding him made her learn English again.

<-----Iron Sheik fuck Nas in the ass, make him humble
514497, And it's like, for what purpose
Posted by BigReg, Tue Apr-20-10 11:21 PM
Like, bad writing aside, it would be understandable if she lost her voice at a crucial time (like couldn't cry for help or something) to spin something else in the plotline.

But nope.

Someone sat in the writers room on some like:

*Random writer raises hand*

"Hey, ive got an idea. Lets have Sun lose her voice for a few episodes right? And like, when she meets Jin, she gets it back. Because it's true love. Doesn't have anything to do with Jacob or Smokey or anything, I just think it would be adorable. "

*Murmurs in the crowd*

Damon Lindelof: "That's genius."
514501, it was trite as a mug.
Posted by selppataei, Tue Apr-20-10 11:47 PM
they should've done it in korean.
514607, And i was beginning to believe the Captain was a pointless character
Posted by Mynoriti, Wed Apr-21-10 08:13 PM
oh boy was i wrong!
514506, I agree
Posted by ZooTown74, Wed Apr-21-10 01:23 AM
And that comment concludes this edition of

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514507, no lie, I screamed at my TV
Posted by CaptNish, Wed Apr-21-10 02:20 AM
I was like "The fence isn't down!!!!!!" I really thought they were running into the KEEP SMOKEY OUT fence. Which would've been tragically hilarious.
514511, thought the same thing myself...
Posted by topaz, Wed Apr-21-10 06:19 AM
514518, LOL me too
Posted by Marauder21, Wed Apr-21-10 08:11 AM
514576, same here...i was bout to be like "are you fuckin SERIOUS??"
Posted by al_sharp, Wed Apr-21-10 04:38 PM

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514513, It was like a parody..couldn't believe it!
Posted by OctavioPaz, Wed Apr-21-10 06:48 AM
514508, I honestly don't know how anyone can pretend this is entertaining
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Apr-21-10 04:48 AM

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514509, is there anything better? someone could argue Breaking Bad, but
Posted by kysersozey, Wed Apr-21-10 05:08 AM
I'd still disagree.

At this point, anyone watching LOST this long shouldn't even complain.
It's not like that clusterfuck Heroes has turned into. I realized
in season 4 that LOST is a rollercoaster... if you spend your time waiting for it to end, you can't enjoy the ride.

But I get it man... if the ending is a cliffhanger or simply sucks
you'll be able to say--> I told you so


514517, anything is better. iCarly is better.
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Apr-21-10 07:52 AM

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514540, you watch iCarly?
Posted by Selah, Wed Apr-21-10 12:04 PM
yeesh

c'mon player
514546, there's no disputing that it's better than lost
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Apr-21-10 12:50 PM

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514559, *steps from behind the curtain*
Posted by Chris Hansen, Wed Apr-21-10 01:59 PM
Please, elaborate what it is about iCarly you like so much.
514577, lulz
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514598, that it's better than lost
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514687, ^^^WOOOOOOOOSH!!
Posted by al_sharp, Thu Apr-22-10 02:37 PM

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514907, i like Lost, but there really are WAY better shows out there...
Posted by Calico, Sun Apr-25-10 10:00 AM
if you REALLY think Lost is even remotely seeing the greatness that is Breaking Bad then i honestly have to let you get your kanye on wit no argument from me...
514510, Why are you even thinking about how 'other people' can find a show?
Posted by Torez the Judge, Wed Apr-21-10 05:57 AM
Like, do you really be watching the show thinking: "How do people like this show?"

514516, no, I'm thinking there is no reason to find it entertaining
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Apr-21-10 07:51 AM
thanks for trying and failing for the thousandth time to make it about me making it about you when it wasn't.

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514570, 'thousandth?' - - have i ever even replied to you in a lost thread before?
Posted by Torez the Judge, Wed Apr-21-10 03:23 PM
514596, yet you are concerned about MY concerns... the irony
Posted by kysersozey, Wed Apr-21-10 07:02 PM
FOH
514520, I gotta say though, it overall it wasn't that bad
Posted by BigReg, Wed Apr-21-10 08:36 AM
Outside the last ten minutes with Sun/Jin and Kate/Claire having the 'Not Without My Baby!' moment. (as said above, probably the worst minutes the show ever filmed)

Alternate universe was pretty entertaining, and I think I love the Sawyer/Miles buddy cop show. LOL@the garden hose tripwire.

In 'reality' it for the first time this season having the survivors finally realize "Hey, maybe the Undead demon guy running around in Locke's body might be a bad thing. Let's NOT do what he says."

It's also interesting how it kinda looks like there is a good chance Sayiid didn't kill Desmond, which is good on one hand because the zombie Sayiid was getting played, but still kinda doesn't seem true to the character after his heel turn.
514523, Thoughts/Observations/Questions
Posted by Melanism, Wed Apr-21-10 08:47 AM
http://blog.melanism.com/2010/04/21/lost-season-six-the-last-recruit/

What I Liked:

* The flash sideways are finally coming together
* Finally! Jin and Sun are reunited!
* Desmond appealing to Sayid and possibly converting him back from the Dark Side…at least momentarily
* Jack’s jumping off Sawyer’s boat after he’s given a “You’re on Team Sawyer or you’re off”
* LA X Sun freaking out when she saw Locke
* Sawyer calling Lapidus “that pilot who looks like he stepped off the set of a Burt Reynolds movie” and “Chesty”
* notLocke revealing he was the one on the island walking around as Christian Shepard
* Kate’s speech to convince Crazy Claire not to shoot her and to leave the island with them.

What I Didn’t Like:

* LA X Sawyer’s conversation with Kate about continuing to run into one another was a little too on the nose
* Lapidus ruining Sun and Jin’s emotional reunion with the worst line ever: “Looks like someone got their voice back.”
* While I thought Evangeline Lilly did an amazing job in her plea to Claire, I still wanted her to shoot
* While Sawyer and Kate have witnessed Claire’s crazy, I find it hard to believe that Hurley and, especially, Jack would abandon Claire because Sawyer said so

Lines of the Night:

* “Why John Locke?”
“Because he was stupid enough to believe that he’d been brought here for a reason, because he pursued that belief until it got him killed, and because you were kind enough to bring his body back here in a nice wooden box.” – Jack and notLocke
* “The third day we were here I saw…I chased my father through the jungle. My dead father. Was that you?”
“Yes, that was me.”
“Why?”
“You needed to find water. This may be hard for you to believe, Jack, but all I’ve ever been interested in is helping you.”
“Help me? To do what?”
“Leave. But because Jacob chose you, you were trapped here before you even got here. Now Jacob is dead. We don’t have to be trapped anymore. We can get on an airplane and fly away any time we want to.” – Jack and notLocke
* “John Locke was the only one of us that ever believed in this place. He did everything he could to keep us from leaving this island.”
“John Locke was not a believer, Jack, he was a sucker!” – Jack and notLocke
* “No…No! It’s him! It’s him!” – LA X Sun upon seeing Locke at the hospital
* “I never had much in the way of family, so it really means a lot that you’re coming with us.”
“Actually, I haven’t decided if I’m coming with you.”
“Yeah you have. You decided the moment you let him talk to you, just like the rest of us. Whether you like it or not, you’re with him now.” – Claire and Jack
* “What about Sayid?”
“Sayid ain’t invited, he’s gone over to the dark side.”
“Yeah, but you can always bring people over from the dark side. I mean, Anakin.”
“Who the hell is Anakin?” – Hurley and Sawyer
* “Well, don’t you think it’s weird? You and me on the same flight, having that little meet up in the elevator? Then a week later, boom! Out of all the cars in Los Angeles you smash into mine. It’s almost like someone is trying to get us together.” – LA X Sawyer to Kate
* “First chance you get, double back. Hoof it to this spot. There’s an old dock. Grab Hugo, Sun, and Lapidus. Kate and I will meet you there.”
“What about Sayid and Claire?”
“Sayid’s a zombie and Claire’s nuts. She gave up her ticket when she tried to kill Kate and I ain’t going to let that happen again. That’s Hugo, Sun, and the pilot, only them.” – Sawyer and Jack
* “So what will you tell her?”
“What do you mean?”
“This woman, when she asks what you did to be with her again, what will you tell her?” – Desmond and Sayid
* “Wait, you didn’t say Claire.”
“She ain’t coming. The Claire you came back for is gone.”
“I promised I would bring her back.”
“That was before she started drinking Locke’s Kool-Aid. She’s dangerous. You really want her around Aaron? Let’s go. We ain’t got much time.” – Kate and Sawyer
* “I’m promising you! I was there when he was born and I never should have raised him. It should have been you. I came back to get you so that you could be with him again. It’s the only reason I came back to the island, Claire. Please, come with us. Go home.” – Kate to Claire
* “I know I was a little late to the party, Captain, but you mind filling us in on what your game plan is?”
“The plan, Chesty, is to land on Hydra Island, get ourselves nice and cuddly with Widmore until we get a chance to jump on that sub. Then I’m going to put a gun in someone’s face and make him take us home.” – Lapidus and Sawyer
* “We were brought here because we’re supposed to do something. And if Locke, that thing, wants us to leave, maybe he’s afraid of what happens if we stay.”
“Get off my damn boat.”
“What?”
“You’ve got a decision to make and you make it now. Either you’re here with us and you keep that damn crazy talk to yourself, or you’re going in the water.”
“James, this is a mistake and I know there’s a part of you that feels that. This island isn’t done with us yet.”
“Yeah, well I’m done with this island. You want to take a leap of faith, Jack, then take it. Get off my damn boat.”
“I’m sorry that I got Juliet killed.” – Jack and Sawyer
* “I never stopped looking for you.”
“We’ll never be apart again. I promise you.” – Sun and Jin
* “Don’t worry, it’s going to be okay. You’re with me now.” – notLocke to Jack

Questions:

* How messed up is ABC for implying that Sayid shot Desmond in their preview for this episode?
* Did Sayid shoot Desmond? If not, did he leave him down there?
* Is it still possible for Sayid and Claire to be turned back from the dark side?
* Who is David’s, Jack’s son, mother?
* Did Desmond know what he was doing when he brought Claire to Ilana?
* Why did Widmore renege on his deal with Sawyer?
* How did Team Widmore miss notLocke that badly is that had a clear shot and he didn’t move? I know it wouldn’t have killed him but they missed him by a good 7 feet
* Why did LA X Sun freak out when she saw Locke at the hospital?
514527, I love that Jack now calls Sawyer James, like Locke used to.
Posted by CaptNish, Wed Apr-21-10 09:43 AM
> “James, this is a mistake and I know there’s a part of
>you that feels that. This island isn’t done with us yet.”
514774, better question...
Posted by budz4zo, Fri Apr-23-10 10:19 AM
why the fuck is the finale on a sunday?
514525, :/
Posted by spades, Wed Apr-21-10 09:30 AM
514536, christian shephard.
Posted by selppataei, Wed Apr-21-10 11:09 AM
couple things:

1) did smokey inhabit christian's body? because he didn't inhabit locke's. i guess he could've taken christian's form and then done away with the body so as to convince jack that christian had indeed abandoned his coffin. but i'm not feeling that, smokey. if you have an s.o.p., then stick to it, dude.

2) i get that smokey can get around fast and s***, which works in the instances that christian showed up to tell locke to turn the donkey wheel and stuff. but what about appearing to michael on the freighter? what about appearing to jack in the hospital lobby? what about bob?
514538, RE: christian shephard.
Posted by Brother_Afron, Wed Apr-21-10 11:50 AM

>2) i get that smokey can get around fast and s***, which works
>in the instances that christian showed up to tell locke to
>turn the donkey wheel and stuff. but what about appearing to
>michael on the freighter? what about appearing to jack in the
>hospital lobby? what about bob?

If the Smoke Monster was actually Christian, then appearing to Michael on the freighter kinda proves that he can actually leave the island whenever he wants. Fuck a plane/boat/submarine.
514565, Which is why I don't think he's being completely honest...
Posted by aScribe, Wed Apr-21-10 02:47 PM
Although, he's probably been giving half-truths this whole season, I'm inclined to believe he is telling the truth about NOT being able to become smoke and travel across the water. In fact, that reveal came the same episode when Zoe asked Jin to show them the pockets of EM energy around the island. I think that was purposeful, as if the source of the smoke monster's form has something to do with him being "tied" to the physical land of the island, and thereby the energy pockets. Hence Widmore needing Desmond for some reason. I could be wrong. But there aren't any pockets - presumably - in the water. And besides, if he could turn to smoke over water, why bother to go to Hydra island for a plane, he could just fly away to the mainland or wherever "home" is.

Also, when "Christian" appeared to Michael, the whispers were heard. And in spite of what dead-Michael told Hurley last week, the whispers up until that point almost always accompanied the appearance of the Others (i.e., Harper appearing to Juliet, the Others taking Cindy the stewardess, Ben telling a young Rousseau that if she ever hears whispers to run the other way). Methinks that the "Christian" that appeared to Michael was something else.

My theory is that the Man in Black, Jacob (?), and something else (?) have all been using the "Christian" identity at various points. We still don't know who else Hurley saw (the eye peeking through the window) in Jacob's cabin besides Christian.

We'll see.
514547, there is a theory that
Posted by LiShang52, Wed Apr-21-10 12:53 PM
MiB did portray himself as Christian on occassions, but that it was also Christian himself in others, which would explain the missing corpse.

I think he is seen wearing a blue suit in some scenes, and a brown suit in others.
514537, Sooooo everyone fell asleep watching this
Posted by dmind, Wed Apr-21-10 11:24 AM
I was watching with a few friends... I woke up in the middle of the episode and everyone was sleep. This is really going down hill.
514539, there wasn't shit to watch
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Apr-21-10 12:00 PM
all i'm asking for is halfway interesting filler episodes.

that's not too hard is it?

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514544, its really not too much to ask at all
Posted by dmind, Wed Apr-21-10 12:26 PM
they could make up so much shit at this point just to wrap it up.
514569, The last couple of eps have been more enjoyable than the first half.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Apr-21-10 03:13 PM
I finally feel like there may be some purpose to the parallel universe, other than just random bullshit. That helps these eps so much.
514578, here's another recap from videogum...this shit is great every week...
Posted by al_sharp, Wed Apr-21-10 04:46 PM
http://videogum.com/172602/lost-s06e14-you-belong-with-locke/tv/recaps/


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514587, This guy is GREAT and
Posted by OctavioPaz, Wed Apr-21-10 05:58 PM
it reaffirms the notion that if you treat Lost like a comedy, you won't be disappointed

"nickleback lyrics"...lol
514591, funny how you chase me around for saying it sucks
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Apr-21-10 06:11 PM
but give it a stupid caption so your dumbass can get it, and you're a dickrider.

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514688, hey man it's fine if somebody thinks the show sucks...
Posted by al_sharp, Thu Apr-22-10 02:40 PM
your week-after-week/year-after-year brigade against the show tho is more dickriderish than just about any of it's fans could ever possibly be.


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514868, Amen
Posted by BigWorm, Sat Apr-24-10 08:58 AM
514869, so you've got no logical reason. thanks.
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514597, Attorney Ilana > Guardian Ilana
Posted by topaz, Wed Apr-21-10 07:05 PM
She looked real good there.
514627, Yessir
Posted by Innocent Criminal, Thu Apr-22-10 12:20 AM
514645, another ''fantastic'' execution of one of the answers
Posted by RetroName, Thu Apr-22-10 09:26 AM
jack: so was that you as my dad earlier?
locke: yes

brilliant!
514691, really though...
Posted by xbenzive, Thu Apr-22-10 03:04 PM
what other way? there's no alternative. I don't want them to make a diagram.
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514772, so they can explain all of the mysteries
Posted by RetroName, Fri Apr-23-10 09:59 AM
in the form of 3-minute dialogue with questions and answers 'yes' or 'no'.
it's like writers are knocking viewers on the head with a hammer screaming 'hey! we are explaining the mysteries! right now!'.

anyway, wasn't that obvious earlier that it was locke? why the reassuring?
514870, I just love how the "fans" who said they weren't watching for answers
Posted by Rjcc, Sat Apr-24-10 09:32 AM
are the ones who are like LOOK!!!!! ANSWERS!!!!


meanwhile everyone else in the world can see through the shitty writing.

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514694, I LOL'd at the 1st missile
Posted by Sponge, Thu Apr-22-10 03:10 PM
Am I missing something obvious? Wouldn't Widmore and crew think that that might be a bad idea considering they don't know where Desmond is and there is a chance that he might be stashed at the spot that they decided to hit as a warning to Smokey Locke?

Sheila Kelley is horrible as Zoe.

The series' corny love moments (e.g., Sun and Jin reunite; Hurley's monologue about Chahlie's death) / moments of heart would've probably gone down better with me if they didn't have such overwrought music accompanying them.

I agree that Ilana the lawyer is hotter than the Jacob disciple version.

Still anticipating the series finale though: to see if it's going to be another Through the Looking Glass, if it's going to be meh, or if it's going to be a whaaat? that kinda sucked.
514700, since when is a smoke monster afraid of a mortar attack?
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