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467969, So we just gonna ignore the GOAT & GOAT in Training huh? (Julie & Julia) Posted by ZooTown74, Sun Aug-09-09 11:04 AM
(That's Meryl and Amy)
We not gonna discuss Julie and Julia at all, huh?
Y'all can sit up and cyse up big mouth-ass Heigl, but ignore the fact that The GOAT done opened up yet another dumbass-looking movie, making that respectable bread, huh?
(3 Summers in a row, btw)
And don't get me started on The GOAT in Training... she better than Heigl in just about every conceivable way (acting, looks, acting, the way she don't sell out her writers and crews, acting)...
But y'all wanna cyse up big mouth. Typical. ________________________________________________________________________
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467972, you think amy adams looks better than katherine heigl? Posted by dula dibiasi, Sun Aug-09-09 11:07 AM
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467973, Yep Posted by ZooTown74, Sun Aug-09-09 11:08 AM
And act better too
Plus she open movies just as well as trout face Heigl ________________________________________________________________________
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468003, Pretty much. Posted by CaptNish, Sun Aug-09-09 02:07 PM
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468073, Cosign. Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Aug-09-09 09:02 PM
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468285, She looks like Pam from the office & I thought y'all wasnt feelin Pam. Posted by no_i_cant_dance, Mon Aug-10-09 03:05 PM
For the record, Idt Heigl is hot either & her acting skills leave much to be desired.
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468154, she def acts better, but looks better? really? Posted by rjc27, Mon Aug-10-09 07:56 AM
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468228, yeah I'm gonna have to say no on that one Posted by will_5198, Mon Aug-10-09 12:00 PM
Heigl may be a yatch and all that...that's why there's grudgefucking
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468317, i'm saying tho... Posted by dula dibiasi, Mon Aug-10-09 04:53 PM
http://images.google.com/images?q=amy+adams
amy's a great actor but is pretty much standard-issue non-descript-white-girl lookswise
heigl is borderline maxim-hot
http://www.katherineheigl.ws/katherine-heigl-boobs.jpg
http://celebrityandworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/katherine-heigl.jpg
http://www.bartcop.com/heigl-01.jpg
http://s63.photobucket.com/albums/h153/vngallery3/Katherine_Heigl/Katherine_Heigl9.jpg
http://www.tvpredictions.com/hotterheigl.jpg
cmon
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468345, I listed ACTING 3 times. Awesome focus, fellas. Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Aug-10-09 07:31 PM
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468353, and you said looks twice Posted by will_5198, Mon Aug-10-09 08:19 PM
but who's counting? do your thing tho
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468354, *counts* Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Aug-10-09 08:22 PM
>(acting, looks, acting, the way she don't sell out her writers and crews, acting).
Hrm... unless basic mathematics has changed, I see the word "acting" listed 3 times, and the word "looks" listed... once...
Super Deflection FAIL ________________________________________________________________________
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468359, don't really matter. Posted by will_5198, Mon Aug-10-09 08:54 PM
good edit tho
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468368, Yeah... "It don't really matter... but I'll bring it up anyway" Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Aug-10-09 09:34 PM
Awesome.
EDIT: Super. ________________________________________________________________________
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468375, damn. you really going to keep on, aren't you? Posted by will_5198, Mon Aug-10-09 10:00 PM
one time, three times, it don't matter -- you stated an opinion on Heigl's looks (twice including your answer to dula), some people agreed, others didn't, that's the way the board works.
but since you carrying on and trying to make it all GD up in here (yeah, I saw the edit)...lemme continue.
I knew you'd be the one getting huffy on some trivial joint like this. that's how your simp ass posts -- pre-defensive, waiting for somebody to disagree, then triple-editing your one sentence, corny as fuck replies that nobody laughs at. acting like you don't care, but you do.
so thanks for reminding me why I usually don't reply to your dumb shit. go ahead and delete this reply if you want (hell, I would if this was modding this board).
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468380, Yeah, thanks for letting us know how you really feel. Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Aug-10-09 10:08 PM
Now you can kindly get the fuck outta the post, chief. ________________________________________________________________________
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468435, RE: damn. you really going to keep on, aren't you? Posted by Bombastic, Tue Aug-11-09 02:25 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iZOmjLrFMs
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468439, *pumps fist* Posted by ZooTown74, Tue Aug-11-09 03:38 AM
________________________________________________________________________ "I am a rewriter. I rewrite a number of times. Imaginative richness is born in rewriting." - Bernard Malamud
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468404, huh? i agree that amy's a better actor, that's why i didn't mention it. Posted by dula dibiasi, Mon Aug-10-09 10:46 PM
wtf?
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468441, So you should have said that off break. Posted by ZooTown74, Tue Aug-11-09 03:45 AM
As in, "Better actor, absolutely, but better in the looks department? Cmon, fam."
EDIT (zOMG) - that would have saved about 6 posts and also saved someone from making an ass of themselves here (not me)... ________________________________________________________________________ "I am a rewriter. I rewrite a number of times. Imaginative richness is born in rewriting." - Bernard Malamud
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468500, ummmmm seriously, dude: HUH?!? Posted by dula dibiasi, Tue Aug-11-09 12:16 PM
you: cmon amy better. better acting, better looks, less of a cunt.
me: you think amy looks better?
^^^i mean, do i have to explicitly state that i don't disagree w/ the other 2 things you said? isn't that the only reasonable assumption from the way i replied?
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468504, I see you still want to argue semantics and shit. Posted by ZooTown74, Tue Aug-11-09 12:28 PM
I already answered the fuckin' question.
The time for deflections has ended, slim. ________________________________________________________________________ "I am a rewriter. I rewrite a number of times. Imaginative richness is born in rewriting." - Bernard Malamud
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467999, i can back this. great thread. Posted by Basaglia, Sun Aug-09-09 01:06 PM
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468000, A+ post Posted by numark216, Sun Aug-09-09 01:11 PM
A+ material A+ agenda C- Impact though
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468002, agreed. goatit is so beautiful and talented. n/m Posted by dgonsh, Sun Aug-09-09 01:58 PM
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468074, My girl saw it. Loved the Julia parts, was indifferent on the Julie parts. Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Aug-09-09 09:03 PM
Apparently they spend waaaaaay more time on Julia than the book did, and they cast Amy Adams to try to "nicen up" a kinda bitchy character, with mixed results.
I'm seeing it tomorrow.
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468152, Bored privileged white chick searching for meaning in her life....PASS Posted by Lardlad95, Mon Aug-10-09 07:39 AM
Behemoth of a woman who worked for the CIA and makes some mean food....I can get down with that.
"Jack of all trades, master of none, though ofttimes better than master of one"-Anonymous
The sharpest sword is a word spoken in wrath;the deadliest poison is covetousness;the fiercest fire is hatred; the darkest night is ignorance.-The Buddha
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471382, What book? Posted by 83, Sun Aug-23-09 09:24 PM
I thought the book by Julie focused on cooking the 500+ meals and the Julia portion focused on her life in France.
So what book are you talking about if there isn't one book that focused on both Julie Powell and Julia Child?
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471443, Julie's blog didn't focus on Julia as much. Posted by SoulHonky, Mon Aug-24-09 03:12 AM
I think a lot of her book focused more on her own issues and in the movie, almost everything revolved around her love for Julia.
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468077, You think people are gonna give a damn about Julie & Julia? Posted by icecold21, Sun Aug-09-09 09:12 PM
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468139, They cared enough about Trout Face Heigl to make a SEPERATE post Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Aug-10-09 04:24 AM
about her movie three weeks ago, discussing how she "won" for opening another shitty high-concept romantic comedy
Yet as The GOAT continues making summer hits AND bringing the Oscar heat, now it's tumbleweeds around this bitch... ________________________________________________________________________
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468159, i would take amy adams to so many steak dinners. Posted by jehiza, Mon Aug-10-09 08:11 AM
holy shit.
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468181, Yeah, Meryl is fucking bulletproof Posted by BigReg, Mon Aug-10-09 09:52 AM
I think more so then any other A list actor, she generally enjoys the work she's doing, be it Oscar bait or chick-flicks, and it comes off on screen. There's nothing she could be cast in that I would find unbelievable.
And Amy Adams I have had my eye on since Enchanted.
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469098, co sign Posted by Raised under Reagan, Thu Aug-13-09 04:03 PM
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468188, I saw it this weekend with my b/f and we both enjoyed it Posted by BlakGirlSoul, Mon Aug-10-09 10:09 AM
I was concerned abt him not liking it because it is a chick flick But he laughed a lot He knows how much I love food shows and I think "Julie" showed him why I feel how I do about food I give it a B+
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468225, I'm interested in watching half of that movie Posted by bignick, Mon Aug-10-09 11:44 AM
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468284, saw it w/ the gf yesterday Posted by sfMatt, Mon Aug-10-09 03:00 PM
Meryl Streep is fucking great. She kills it with the julia-isms. Every time she makes an "ooo" kind of sound, it's charming/hilarious.
Tucci is great too.
Streep as Julia is so much better than every other aspect of the film, however.
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468295, is this another TDWP for the GOAT? Posted by Darryl_Licke, Mon Aug-10-09 03:54 PM
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468348, *waits for further post derailments* Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Aug-10-09 07:50 PM
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468382, I see Will decided to explode Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Aug-10-09 10:10 PM
Glad to know I can still make people upset with my "corny" posting style
Talk about claiming not to care
No edits, btw ________________________________________________________________________
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468425, . Posted by ZooTown74, Tue Aug-11-09 12:52 AM
From the Los Angeles Times
>CRITIC'S NOTEBOOK
That Amy Adams touch
She eats up sweetheart roles but her true genius is revealed in stormy characters ('Julie & Julia,' 'Junebug') that set off intense sparks.
By Betsy Sharkey FILM CRITIC
August 11, 2009
Amy Adams has a smile that plays big, taking over her face, then the room, then everyone in it. It's as if the world is suddenly bathed in sunshine. That's why it's hard to imagine anyone else as the dipped-in-happiness princess of "Enchanted," a cartoon character come to life, who sings and sews her way into Patrick Dempsey's heart.
But as wonderful as that super-saturated optimism can be, and as much as Hollywood suits and moviegoers alike prefer her in those roles, she is even more interesting to watch as someone who's been hurt, betrayed by life or circumstance or someone else. Those finely textured performances have a way of surprising you, so unexpected do they feel, so unlike the lightness of her comedy.
It's when she comes undone that I love Adams most. She paints a thousand colors on that dark canvas: bruising pain, profound empathy, infinite compassion, infinite need. There is an interior steeliness to her darker work -- a sharp intake of breath as she brushes her broken bits under the rug, a flash of lightning in stormy eyes, and you know she will, in a Scarlett O'Hara-as-God-is-her-witness-way, carry on.
The nuance Adams brings to those moments will ultimately go a long way in defining her still-developing career. (She turns 35 this month but she plays much younger). Consider "Julie & Julia," the great French bake-off that opened over the weekend that costars Adams, though Meryl Streep's Julia Child effortlessly whips egg whites and everyone and everything else into a fluffy meringue. While Streep has been butter-cream frosted in praise -- and rightfully so -- the reception to Adams as Julie has been something closer to frosty.
Yet if you take a close look at Adams in the film, you'll discover another carefully calibrated performance. Everything about her character is as it should be: self-involved, often superficial, often insecure, sometimes petty and with a "poor me" attitude that is very unappetizing when her day job is assisting the victims of the 9/11 World Trade Center collapse.
Her Julie Powell is a not-quite-30 Manhattan office drone who spends a year cooking through Child's "Mastering the Art of French Cooking" in a desperate bid to flavor her own bland life. She was never supposed to step out of Child's shadow, even when success comes.
Adams understands that. From the slump in her shoulders to the serious shear of her hair, she allows herself to shrink into someone smaller on screen than she's ever been. At times it's as if the camera is searching for her, which rarely happens, since the camera fell in love with her ages ago.
It's quite simple, really -- if Adams has to choose between the character and our affection, she'll go for the character every time. She's a lot more than America's sweetheart.
Eyes have it
What I've come to believe is that Adams is a character actor blessed and cursed with a youthfully angelic face, leaving her the sizable task of layering meaning into performances that will, by necessity, reside inside porcelain perfection with a pert nose and a not quite grown-up voice.
All might be lost, or at least the potential for a broad artistic sweep to her career, if not for her eyes. An inky, indigo blue, they are a hopeless gossip, eager to let slip all the secrets hiding inside. When she throws them wide open, which she does with a sort of fierce intensity, the emotion you are witness to is unmitigated, raw and real. You understand why writer-director John Patrick Shanley would look at her and see the novice nun he envisioned for "Doubt," a Madonna untouched, her piety and belief about to be shaken to the core.
Adams commits absolutely to whatever role she's taken on, it's a glimmer in the bouncy cheerleading afterthought she was in 1999 in her first film, "Drop Dead Gorgeous," which starred a long list of other young actresses that were expected to outshine her, including Kirsten Dunst and Brittany Murphy. As Amelia Earhart earlier this year in the silliness of "Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian," Adams evoked an old-style glamour; in jodhpurs and a bob, she became Amelia, feisty and formidable and comically adorable.
Despite expectations, her breakthrough did not come as the innocent who falls for Leo DiCaprio's con artist in Steven Spielberg's "Catch Me If You Can" in 2002. There she was largely overlooked despite a nuanced performance of absolute love betrayed. The devastating final image of her is on an airport curb, Feds at the ready with arrest warrants for her ex-lover in hand. There stands little girl lost, crushed as much by the Judas role she finds herself in as any betrayal by DiCaprio's con.
'Junebug' leap
It was not until the 2005 indie film "Junebug" that the actress finally caught everyone's attention. An Oscar nomination came just as she was about to give up on Hollywood and head back to the stage.
"Junebug," though, was a revelation; a close-up of just what Adams might be capable of as she delivered a tour de force of battered optimism and endless need with a fractured smile and a Southern drawl.
It was supposed to be Embeth Davidtz's movie in her role as the sophisticated art dealer who travels south to woo a reclusive artist and squeeze in a first visit to her in-laws. And her arrival does indeed set things in motion and keeps upending the equilibrium of this barely middle-class family. But from the moment a barefoot and pregnant Ashley runs out of the house to embrace her new sister-in-law, it becomes, without question, Adams' film.
There are countless moments in "Junebug" when Adams' performance breaks your heart. The easy one to choose is in the hours after she's lost the baby she had nicknamed Junebug. But my favorite is of Adams playing beauty parlor, painting Davidtz's fingernails a bright red as she chatters on about her life, the baby, her very small dreams. In that scene we realize just how completely Ashley understands the great divide between her life and Davidtz's. All the ways in which she tries to make the words, "I'm fine. . . . I'm fine" gain purchase, a bowed head, a quick glance, a quivering smile.
A dark turn
On the horizon for Adams is "Leap Year," a romantic comedy that has her running off to Ireland, and the new David O. Russell drama, "The Fighter," which follows the Rocky-like rise of boxer "Irish" Mickey Ward played by Mark Wahlberg, with Christian Bale as the once drug-addled half-brother who guides him.
But the one I'm most looking for is in that netherworld of development -- "Daughter of the Queen of Sheba" with Lasse Hallström set to direct. It's an adaptation of Jacki Lyden's disturbing and deeply moving memoir about surviving her mother's descent into manic depression. A shadowy place where Adams can breathe in the darkness and come undone. ________________________________________________________________________ "I am a rewriter. I rewrite a number of times. Imaginative richness is born in rewriting." - Bernard Malamud
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468505, The "Julia" part of the movie looks interesting Posted by tappenzee, Tue Aug-11-09 12:30 PM
The "Julie" part, not so much.
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469094, Wonderful film... Streep is MAJOR. Posted by Raised under Reagan, Thu Aug-13-09 03:58 PM
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469323, im just glad Posted by astralblak, Fri Aug-14-09 02:27 PM
yall didnt try and name other woman and say streep wasn't the GOAT. i havent seen J&J, but all her roles are chosen with such precision and acted to unparralled levels. reall ywho is fuckin with her. as for amy i dont know, but workin on two films now with maryl can't be hurting her
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469701, Fun movie. Streep should get Oscar consideration. Posted by SoulHonky, Sun Aug-16-09 04:11 PM
She should definitely get a Golden Globe nom. She was a joy to watch.
It was a fun albeit slight movie. There's not really much going on but I thoroughly enjoyed myself.
(SPOILER)
The fact that Child didn't like the blog is kind of a downer. Apparently she thought it was a stunt and didn't consider Powell a serious cook which is kind of true, but that's also kind of the point of her book, no? Cooking for the every woman?
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473526, Finally seen all of it Posted by Duval Spit, Tue Sep-01-09 11:53 PM
Let me preface by saying that I work at a movie theatre, so while I haven't sat down and watched it straight through, I have, as of today, seen the entire thing. Most of it multiple times.
That being said: This is not a bad movie. It is, in fact, a very well made movie. But that doesn't mean I care one way or another about seeing it again.
Nora Ephron did a good job. The script is good, the directing is good. Amy Adams did a good job. She is normal, and doesn't make you completely hate this narcissistic and obsessed woman, which would be very easy to do. Julie's husband was also effective and normal. But that's the problem - everything felt a little too real. The say that theater is life under a microscope. If that is true, Nora pulled in way too close. The ONLY thing she focused on was Julie's obsession with Julia and it really made her seem like a loon. But a loon that you work with. Note to all future film-writers: blogs are not a good subject for a movie.
The Julia part, however, is much better. Meryl was excellent at making a cartoon character seem like a real woman, and Stanley Tucci, as always, was great. Her struggles were much more palpable than Julie's because it felt like she was actually trying to achieve something.
If I wanted to read into this movie, the obvious parallel would be to see how women have progressed in terms of their own standards of accomplishment. The only problem is that it doesn't feel as if Julie really accomplished anything. She was successful, that is true, but her level of heartache and effort as compared to Julia's seemed miniscule. Maybe that's a problem with our society, but it comes off as a problem in the movie. Ephron does an excellent job intertwining Julie and Julia's lives, but at the end of the day I still wished it had been a Julia Child biopic.
At the end of the movie I felt like nothing had been done, that the story had gone nowhere. It EASILY could be trimmed, as some of the troubles they each go through become a bit repetitive, but making it shorter wouldn't have made it much better.
At the end of the day, the movie had all the right ingredients, but the final product just didn't taste great.
And yes, I did end with a food metaphor.
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