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381205, Another set of film lists to chew on: AFI's 10 Top 10 Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Jun-23-08 08:10 PM
(a series that I totally forgot to vote on)
So, this is where the AFI peoples rank the 10 best films in 10 different genres: Animation, Romantic Comedy, Western, Sports, Mystery, Fantasy, Sci-Fi, Gangster, Courtroom Drama, and Epic
I'm going to list each list as its own post, so that people can feel free to shit on each category individually. Kidding!
So with that, here we go: ________________________________________________________________________ Jam-a-con HUAH
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381206, Animated Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Jun-23-08 08:10 PM
AFI defines "animated" as a genre in which the film's images are primarily created by computer or hand and the characters are voiced by actors.
1. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs 2. Pinocchio 3. Bambi 4. The Lion King 5. Fantasia 6. Toy Story 7. Beauty and the Beast 8. Shrek 9. Cinderella 10. Finding Nemo ________________________________________________________________________ Jam-a-con HUAH
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381221, RE: Animation Posted by JMD, Mon Jun-23-08 08:23 PM
I don't know how I feel about the top three and how there are not any Miyazaki(is that how you spell it?) What was the judging criteria?
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381238, I think they're going strictly for American films. Posted by Nukkapedia, Mon Jun-23-08 09:14 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, though.
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381250, Hmmm Posted by JungleSouljah, Mon Jun-23-08 10:23 PM
I don't have problems with that list. I would have liked to have seen an addition of Iron Giant or The Incredibles (Brad Bird needs to be somewhere on that list). I'm not sure about Snow White at #1. I'm not even sure if it'd be in my top 10. I realize it's importance but it's just not one of my favorites.
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381262, I'd take off Snow White and Shrek and squeeze Aladdin and Posted by Nukkapedia, Mon Jun-23-08 10:45 PM
The Incredibles in
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381518, I completely forgot Shrek was on there Posted by JungleSouljah, Tue Jun-24-08 07:39 PM
And I was thinking about adding Aladdin too but I think I'd rather see Iron Giant and The Incredibles.
I'm still salty over the bullshit treatment that Ratatouille continues to get. Yes it's a rat in a kitchen movie, but it's a great rat in a kitchen movie.
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381528, Ratatouille is great, but it's too new to determine it's worth. Posted by Nukkapedia, Tue Jun-24-08 08:45 PM
And Iron Giant is great too, but its status as an unfortunately relatively unknown "cult film" keeps me from putting it in a Top 10 list. Be that as it may, I might swap it for "Incredibles" on any given day. It all depends.
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381207, Romantic Comedy Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Jun-23-08 08:10 PM
AFI defines "romantic comedy" as a genre in which the development of a romance leads to comic situations.
1. City Lights 2. Annie Hall 3. It Happened One Night 4. Roman Holiday 5. The Philadelphia Story 6. When Harry Met Sally... 7. Adam's Rib 8. Moonstruck 9. Harold and Maude 10. Sleepless in Seattle ________________________________________________________________________ Jam-a-con HUAH
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381208, Western Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Jun-23-08 08:11 PM
AFI defines "western" as a genre of films set in the American West that embodies the spirit, the struggle and the demise of the new frontier.
1. The Searchers 2. High Noon 3. Shane 4. Unforgiven 5. Red River 6. The Wild Bunch 7. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid 8. McCabe & Mrs. Miller 9. Stagecoach 10. Cat Ballou ________________________________________________________________________ Jam-a-con HUAH
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381234, High Noon is a gigantic L Posted by DrNO, Mon Jun-23-08 09:02 PM
The ultimate western for those who have never seen a western or High Noon.
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381364, nm Posted by Frank Mackey, Tue Jun-24-08 10:21 AM
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381365, nm Posted by Frank Mackey, Tue Jun-24-08 10:21 AM
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381473, L = no the good the bad and the ugly Posted by thashadow, Tue Jun-24-08 04:38 PM
n/m
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381519, AFI = American Film Institute Posted by JungleSouljah, Tue Jun-24-08 07:40 PM
Sergio Leone = not American
Which is why it was left out.
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381209, Sports Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Jun-23-08 08:11 PM
AFI defines "sports" as a genre of films with protagonists who play athletics or other games of competition.
1. Raging Bull 2. Rocky 3. The Pride of the Yankees 4. Hoosiers 5. Bull Durham 6. The Hustler 7. Caddyshack 8. Breaking Away 9. National Velvet 10. Jerry Maguire ________________________________________________________________________ Jam-a-con HUAH
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381235, A genre that isn't really even a genre Posted by DrNO, Mon Jun-23-08 09:05 PM
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381253, No real surprises in the top 7 Posted by JungleSouljah, Mon Jun-23-08 10:27 PM
I'm somewhat surprised that Field of Dreams was left off, although I'm not overly familiar with the last 3. I'm saddened by the lack of football, but I can't even think of one that really deserves a mention.
Maybe Friday Night Lights?
The Longest Yard?
Brian's Song?
I dunno.
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381310, It doesn't fit the AFI definition of a sports movie Posted by SoulHonky, Tue Jun-24-08 01:35 AM
Costner isn't an athlete or taking place in a competition.
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381521, But you could argue that there are other protagonists that do Posted by JungleSouljah, Tue Jun-24-08 07:52 PM
I know we're splitting hairs thanks to our friends at the AFI but if Field of Dreams isn't a sports movie, then what genre is it?
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381341, no "Longest Yard"? *throws this list in the trash* Posted by disco dj, Tue Jun-24-08 09:07 AM
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381347, RE: Sports Posted by The Goldng Child, Tue Jun-24-08 09:29 AM
caddyshack and jerry maguire don't belong. those are movies that just happen to mention sports occasionally.
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381354, No Slap Shot...fuck this list Posted by MadDagoNH, Tue Jun-24-08 09:55 AM
Greatest sports movie ever made that was not named Raging Bull.
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381430, ^^^^^ Posted by disco dj, Tue Jun-24-08 02:38 PM
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381541, No "Bad News Bears" = L Posted by mrhood75, Wed Jun-25-08 01:45 AM
It has an understanding of sports that most movies can't fathom.
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381210, Mystery Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Jun-23-08 08:11 PM
AFI defines "mystery" as a genre that revolves around the solution of a crime.
1. Vertigo 2. Chinatown 3. Rear Window 4. Laura 5. The Third Man 6. The Maltese Falcon 7. North By Northwest 8. Blue Velvet 9. Dial M for Murder 10. The Usual Suspects ________________________________________________________________________ Jam-a-con HUAH
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381254, Playing it pretty safe. Posted by JungleSouljah, Mon Jun-23-08 10:29 PM
They should have just called it "Hitchcock and Some Other Dudes". Nice nod to Usual Suspects.
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381349, If Vertigo wasn't #1 then the list is wrong Posted by Dae021, Tue Jun-24-08 09:29 AM
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381211, Fantasy Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Jun-23-08 08:12 PM
AFI defines "fantasy" as a genre where live-action characters inhabit imagined settings and/or experience situations that transcend the rules of the natural world.
1. The Wizard of Oz 2. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring 3. It's a Wonderful Life 4. King Kong (the 1933 one, not the "racist" Peter Jackson one) 5. Miracle on 34th Street 6. Field of Dreams 7. Harvey 8. Groundhog Day 9. The Thief of Baghdad 10. Big ________________________________________________________________________ Jam-a-con HUAH
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381343, I'd throw "Legend" on there instead of "Big", but it's a decent list. Posted by disco dj, Tue Jun-24-08 09:09 AM
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381212, Sci-Fi Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Jun-23-08 08:12 PM
AFI defines "science fiction" as a genre that marries a scientific or technological premise with imaginative speculation.
1. 2001: A Space Odyssey 2. Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope 3. E.T. - The Extra-Terrestrial 4. A Clockwork Orange 5. The Day the Earth Stood Still 6. Blade Runner 7. Alien 8. Terminator 2: Judgment Day 9. Invasion of the Body Snatchers 10. Back to the Future ________________________________________________________________________ Jam-a-con HUAH
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381257, Blade Runner at #6? They liked E.T. that much? Posted by celery77, Mon Jun-23-08 10:36 PM
That's a worthless list.
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381461, yeah that's a disgrace Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Tue Jun-24-08 03:45 PM
>That's a worthless list.
basically.
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381259, I would have added The Matrix Posted by JungleSouljah, Mon Jun-23-08 10:38 PM
but I'm not entirely sure what I'd remove from the list. And I'd definitely consider switching Empire for New Hope.
I should really see the original Invasion of the Bodysnatchers. I've seen the 70s remake and the one from last year. I wonder if 'zombie' movies are considered Sci-Fi.... if so, switch Night of the Living Dead or Dawn of the Dead for Invasion?
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381309, I would put 12 Monkeys on there Posted by sosa, Tue Jun-24-08 01:33 AM
maybe take out or move Blade Runner.
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381351, no to star wars Posted by The Goldng Child, Tue Jun-24-08 09:33 AM
i personally consider star wars to fit in the fantasy category since most of its premises don't have any kind of bearing on technology or physics (real or imagined). i'm a bit surprised none of the star trek movies got a nod, but not terribly so.
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381457, NOPE! TIE fighter = Twin Ion Engine Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Tue Jun-24-08 03:38 PM
science!
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381490, ^^^Quality posting^^^ Posted by disco dj, Tue Jun-24-08 05:36 PM
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381355, I was going to scream where is the Matrix Posted by Dae021, Tue Jun-24-08 09:55 AM
But that list is actually pretty legit.
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381359, as long as blade runner's in there! Posted by ajiav, Tue Jun-24-08 10:10 AM
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381213, Gangster Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Jun-23-08 08:12 PM
AFI defines the "gangster film" as a genre that centers on organized crime or maverick criminals in a twentieth century setting.
1. The Godfather 2. Goodfellas 3. The Godfather, Part II 4. White Heat 5. Bonnie and Clyde 6. Scarface: The Shame of a Nation 7. Pulp Fiction 8. The Public Enemy 9. Little Caesar 10. Scarface (1983) ________________________________________________________________________ Jam-a-con HUAH
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381258, Can't take that seriously with Scarface in the top 10 Posted by celery77, Mon Jun-23-08 10:37 PM
That movie is camp -- how the hell did it get this "great" tag thrown on it?
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381311, Agreed. Posted by SoulHonky, Tue Jun-24-08 01:37 AM
It's one of those films that a lot of people said was great because it was so campy & over-the-top and suddenly people started to actually believe that it was a great movie.
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381438, RE: Can't take that seriously with Scarface in the top 10 Posted by go mack, Tue Jun-24-08 03:07 PM
Believe the Shame of Nation was is the 1930's Scarface
Edit:
My bad, didn't see the 1983 Scarface in the 10 spot
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381260, Is Pulp Fiction a gangster movie? Posted by JungleSouljah, Mon Jun-23-08 10:40 PM
Reservoir Dogs deserves that spot more if at all. Maybe give it to Casino and tell QT thanks for stealing, come again.
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381319, it isn't a gangster movie at all Posted by dunk, Tue Jun-24-08 03:32 AM
put casino or something else in there.
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381477, "a bunch of gangsters in her living room doing gangster shit." Posted by bignick, Tue Jun-24-08 04:54 PM
(c) Jules
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381331, Are they kidding with 6ix?? Posted by Ceej, Tue Jun-24-08 08:09 AM
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381215, Courtroom Drama Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Jun-23-08 08:13 PM
AFI defines "courtroom drama" as a genre of film in which a system of justice plays a critical role in the film's narrative.
1. To Kill A Mockingbird 2. 12 Angry Men 3. Kramer vs. Kramer 4. The Verdict 5. A Few Good Men 6. Witness for the Prosecution 7. Anatomy of a Murder 8. In Cold Blood 9. A Cry in the Dark 10. Judgment at Nuremberg ________________________________________________________________________ Jam-a-con HUAH
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381439, Inherit The Wind? Posted by disco dj, Tue Jun-24-08 03:14 PM
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381476, Where in the hell is "A time to kil" Posted by Dae021, Tue Jun-24-08 04:49 PM
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381482, DESERVEDLY DYING & BURNING IN HELL!!! Posted by jigga, Tue Jun-24-08 05:06 PM
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381216, Epic Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Jun-23-08 08:13 PM
AFI defines "epic" as a genre of large-scale films set in a cinematic interpretation of the past.
1. Lawrence of Arabia 2. Ben-Hur 3. Schindler's List 4. Gone with the Wind 5. Spartacus 6. Titanic 7. All Quiet on the Western Front 8. Saving Private Ryan 9. Reds 10. The Ten Commandments ________________________________________________________________________ Jam-a-con HUAH
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381320, fuck titanic Posted by dunk, Tue Jun-24-08 03:33 AM
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381489, true, it was a Blockbuster disguised as an Epic. Posted by disco dj, Tue Jun-24-08 05:35 PM
I liked it, but it doesn't belong on this list...
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381340, these lists actually aren't that bad n/m Posted by daveyoriginal, Tue Jun-24-08 09:02 AM
"Justice is what love looks like in public." -Cornel West
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381344, yeah, I actually respect the AFI ones.. Posted by disco dj, Tue Jun-24-08 09:11 AM
but those EW shits? Hot Gobbage.
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381435, i know, right? it's like they're trying to ruffle feathers n/m Posted by daveyoriginal, Tue Jun-24-08 02:50 PM
"Justice is what love looks like in public." -Cornel West
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