Fuck it, that other OTHER post is too long. And besides, the finale deserves to be treated special.

Will Stephanie become the first female TC? Will Lisa shock and disgust all by somehow winning it? Will Richard bust out the mini-smoker? TUNE IN!

also awaiting to revel in Lisa's failure.

is this fucking live again, with the audience "watching" the finale? I hate that shit.

Yeah, completely unnecessary, and I'm sure the chefs hate it even more.

no

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Well, that's mature. lol


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I think he has the most upside of all of those chefs, and he's the one at whose restaurant I'd most wanna eat.

most judges thought was the best.

I thought they were going to give it to Lisa there for a second. Damn I hate the fabricated suspense of reality TV.

Was kind of pulling for Richard, but I think it was a well-deserved win for Stephanie. She seemed to really be hitting on every challenge towards the end, if I remember correctly.

Oh, and all of Richard's shots at Lisa throughout were hilarious.

I think the judge's spent most of the deliberation hours convincing themselves it wasn't supposed to be Lisa

Lisa may win this. Maybe she deserves to win? They all seemed to enjoy almost every course of hers. I tried to talk myself down from the bell tower.

I was ecstatic when they said it was Steph.

And I agree. I don't give a fuck what was said during the show, they spent all that time convincing themselves that it was OK to give it to Steph based on how close it was and overall performance. Because based on what was said there? It sounded like Lisa had the better over all service. But I guess we'll never know how much better that lamb/pistachio/olive dish was than everything else.

And I'm a bit bummed for Richard. He knew he fucked up. That's almost worse than getting slapped in the face with fucking up.

>Lisa may win this. Maybe she deserves to win? They all
>seemed to enjoy almost every course of hers. I tried to talk
>myself down from the bell tower.

I couldn't believe she didn't screw up the rice pudding! I'm surprised she even bothered with rice, since it seems to be her Achilles heel.

>
>I was ecstatic when they said it was Steph.

Me too!


>
>And I agree. I don't give a fuck what was said during the
>show, they spent all that time convincing themselves that it
>was OK to give it to Steph based on how close it was and
>overall performance. Because based on what was said there?
>It sounded like Lisa had the better over all service. But I
>guess we'll never know how much better that
>lamb/pistachio/olive dish was than everything else.

I don't care what the judges say about not taking personality and past performance in account. That HAD to have played a role in their decision. If Lisa had won couple more challenges and/or exhibited a more pleasant demeanor at judges' table, she probably would've won.

lmao at 3% of the viewers wanting Lisa to win. That's worse than last week's poll.



>
>And I'm a bit bummed for Richard. He knew he fucked up.
>That's almost worse than getting slapped in the face with
>fucking up.

I really wish he hadn't admitted to the judges that he choked. Did he think they might give it to him anyway, for admitting he knew he could do better?


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Sure, the pound cake was doody, but man, the judges nutted over those pistachios, lol.

I can't wait to see the epic melt downs. I'm guessing Lisa gives Richard a bit of the "You won the fucking bronze medal" payback after his performance in the finale.

Poor Richard. :-/

>I can't wait to see the epic melt downs. I'm guessing Lisa
>gives Richard a bit of the "You won the fucking bronze medal"
>payback after his performance in the finale.


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but thank god. i almost think it was a tie and they gave it to steph based on the whole season as the tie-breaker.

I liked his ensemble. lol

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And I really thought I was wasted cuz they had to think long and hard how NOT to give that shit to Lisa. She finally brought it, lol, whilst Richard pulled a Darius Washington Jr. My man used banana scallops more tham Captain Saffron (almost). Props to Steph, she was a fav from the jump and I believe her winning was well deserved.

Also, why do so many of these amazing chefs get so fucked up on the dessert course. Like you are going on a cooking competition, learn how to cook 2 desserts well.

You had like 3 weeks off before the last two episodes, you don't think learning how to make a good dessert would be beneficial?

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>You had like 3 weeks off before the last two episodes, you
>don't think learning how to make a good dessert would be
>beneficial?

>Also, why do so many of these amazing chefs get so fucked up
>on the dessert course. Like you are going on a cooking
>competition, learn how to cook 2 desserts well.
>
>You had like 3 weeks off before the last two episodes, you
>don't think learning how to make a good dessert would be
>beneficial?

Every season a number of chefs get fucked over on the dessert. You'd figure by now they gotta step their dessert game up if they wanna win.

I bet Dale woulda had an amazing dessert...lol..lemme stop

You just have to get a good recipe, memorize it, then do it over and over and over again till you have it down pat.

Whereas with say, cooking meat, you can have an idea in your head, start working and change things constantly as you go along until you get something that tastes good. And if towards the end it isn't that good, you just add a little salt. You can't just add powdered sugar to a cake and no that it will make it all right.

She definitely deserves it.

And yeah. I was pretty worried Lisa was gonna get it.
I love when, right before they give the verdict, they always say something about each Chef, and they ALWAYS say some awkwardly generic shit about Lisa.

"Lisa... Asian flavors are your thing.... Bold.... Spicy... It's all about you..."

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I actually think I would really enjoy Lisas food, lol. I love spicy shit and it seemed like everyone of her dishes were too spicy for the judges all season.

...and last night's tom kha kai soup dumplings and rice pudding.

I can't lie - the girl does have some talent.


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Plus it was back before I had started to loathe her.

no

she seemed to make a conserted effort not to be lisagenie

really though, I guess for a tasting menu the starter shouldn't be overly hot

but "that's how I cook. you wanted us to show our personalities, and that's how I cook!"

Ya just cant win with dem bitches

My hate is strong i know.
But extra spicy food for a starter course?
C'mon.



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And a rather obvious observation came to me.

Lisa finally was able to do her thing and she looked just as good, if not better than the other top chefs on the show. But except for one or two times in the previous 13 episodes she was never really impressive as a chef. She was often in the bottom two or three but was obviously lucky in that she was never as bad as some. But when she was finally able to cook her food, her way? She did well.

So the question in my mind is: could/would all 'great' chefs do well at the various challenges that Top Chef presents?. Every season we see good chefs like Sam, Tre, and Dale ousted before their time. What's to say that Tom or Eric Rippert or Thomas Keller would excel at those same challanges?

I guess at the end of the day, the argument is that if you have solid basic cooking skills (decent butchery, knife work, strong palette, creativity/imagination, and seasoning) you would likely go far. I realize the challenges are essential to the format of the show, but it still makes me wonder how a heavily awarded chef would fare on the show. Would chefs who have a more versatile or expansive cuisine do better than one who focuses on one particular region or another?

Thoughts?

"Even good chefs have bad days."

So, yes, I believe that a chef a revered as Eric Ripert or Thomas Keller could have been booted before making it to the finale. Maybe Ripert would have been criticized for working too much with seafood. lol


Would chefs who
>have a more versatile or expansive cuisine do better than one
>who focuses on one particular region or another?

I think the challenges may be designed to favor those with a more expansive culinary repertoire, but for those who specialize in a particular cuisine, if a dish is done well, it may have the power to impress the judges a little more because it's not something they see every day. Think of the Spanish chef who was there for Restaurant Wars. He was impressed as hell with Dale's Halo Halo, even though Bourdain, who'd had it before, wasn't all that thrilled with it.

Then again, Steph and Richard didn't specialize, and the judges were always commenting on how surprisingly good some of their flavor combinations were.


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i feel more like steph and blaise dishes were more iron chef, like they were trying something new and experimenting, whereas lisa feels like stuff she cooks all the time.

And actually, that came out a lot at judges' table - when they were asked if they made a particular dish before, Blais and Steph almost always said that was the first time they'd made the dish, and Lisa almost always said it was something she'd done before.


>i feel more like steph and blaise dishes were more iron chef,
>like they were trying something new and experimenting, whereas
>lisa feels like stuff she cooks all the time.


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On Wednesday, Bravo announced that it was developing a new, family-friendly spinoff of the show called "Top Chef Junior" in which teenagers will compete for the top culinary spot.

>On Wednesday, Bravo announced that it was developing a new,
>family-friendly spinoff of the show called "Top Chef Junior"
>in which teenagers will compete for the top culinary spot.

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Did Lisa really do the best but they held her resume against her? (which of course they're not supposed to do), or did they simply edit it to give her more of a chance? Looked like her red meat wasn't that great, but they didn't discuss it much at all. Meanwhile, the judges made cases for Lisa's other 3 dishes as the best.

I already forgot what Stephanie's 2nd dish was, can someone help me out?

Which they genuinely liked except for the undercooked leeks that didn't seem to work with the rest of the dish.

>Did Lisa really do the best but they held her resume against
>her? (which of course they're not supposed to do), or did they
>simply edit it to give her more of a chance? Looked like her
>red meat wasn't that great, but they didn't discuss it much at
>all. Meanwhile, the judges made cases for Lisa's other 3
>dishes as the best.

i can see ppl being eliminated based ONE MEAL/challenge. but to name top chef based on one meal is kinda wack. its not like steph cooked a wack meal. but all 3 were prolly good. and steph and lisa were prolly neck and neck, but the tiebreaker will no doubt go to steph.

Either they need to quit saying that shit or actually follow it.

>to name top chef based on one meal is kinda wack. its not like
>steph cooked a wack meal. but all 3 were prolly good. and
>steph and lisa were prolly neck and neck, but the tiebreaker
>will no doubt go to steph.

I know, I follow. I was just annoyed that the season ended up with Lisa having no chance in the finale even though she did really well. Almost makes me wish Steph fucked up to see if they had the balls to give it to Lisa. They prolly woulda gave it to Blais then, lol. And I'm not trying to specifically defend Lisa (even though I don't hate her as much as most of yall), I'm saying it just sucks that there was dead weight in the finale and they gave her false hope.

You're rooting for one person and hoping the douchebag doesn't win. I was a bit worried that they might give it to Lisa. Lisa dessert looked weird but I'd like to taste it. She really stepped it up.

Happy that Stephanie won. I liked that all the judges broke down what they liked/disliked about every dish. Enjoyed Richard explaining to Eric Ripert the nitrogen technique.

and peace to Padma in the red dress.

Enjoyed
>Richard explaining to Eric Ripert the nitrogen technique.

"I think I just showed Eric Ripert something he's never seen before. That's fucking cool."

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Shit I made ice cream with them shits just last week

Like, wasn't he making Dippin' Dots out of Tabasco ice cream to put on oysters? And then we didn't get to see the finished product because of the yanking of the sous chefs. :-/

>Shit I made ice cream with them shits just last week


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and just never visited their kitchens.

Oh. . SPEAKING of Ripert- he's got an online cooking show now, where he does recipes with a toaster oven: www.aveceric.com

... and you see Dale, Tom and Richard talking... i like to pretend that they are talking about how Dale deserved to be there and not Lisa.




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Tom all like, "Man, if I'd been there that day..."


>... and you see Dale, Tom and Richard talking... i like to
>pretend that they are talking about how Dale deserved to be
>there and not Lisa.


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They seemed to always work very well together and compliment each other's styles. Blais would probably calm Dale's bullshit down and hopefully Dale would get Blais to focus.

Unlikely to ever happen, but interesting to think about.

Anyone have any other pairings from any season of Top Chef they'd like to see happen?

Richard "what happened?"

(For those of you bad with names, April was Lisa's sous chef.)

Hmm...when are we gonna see Symon as a judge on Top Chef? Somebody needs to make that happen next season.

Or does that go against his Food Network contract?

I'm trying to think...have any chefs with shows still in production on FN ever been on Top Chef? I can't recall any.

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I called it "this week's" 'cause you know how they do with the replays.

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>(For those of you bad with names, April was Lisa's sous
>chef.)

she was also in No Reservations serving tony the lamb head in the nyc ep.


>Or does that go against his Food Network contract?
>
>I'm trying to think...have any chefs with shows still in
>production on FN ever been on Top Chef? I can't recall any.

Ted Allen seems to be the only real crossover.

They should have shown blaise's ICA after the finale. It woulda gotten them some ratings.

Yep, I knew I saw her on one of Bourdain's shows, but I couldn't remember if it was No Res or A Cook's Tour.



>>I'm trying to think...have any chefs with shows still in
>>production on FN ever been on Top Chef? I can't recall any.
>
>Ted Allen seems to be the only real crossover.

Yeah, but are you just referring to his recurring judging duties on ICA? I don't recall him having his own show on FN.


>They should have shown blaise's ICA after the finale. It
>woulda gotten them some ratings.
>

That's right! Thanks for reminding me to look for a torrent of that ep.

seems right up their alley. but yeah hes the only person i can think of thats regularly on both networks.

I just watched The Next Food Network Star, and next week's previews show Symon as guest judge.

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Bravo’s 'Top Chef' Tour Takes Shape
June 16, 2008



B&C has been all over Bravo’s Top Chef tour. Since breaking the story in May, we have taken a video tour of the truck and spoken to former “cheftestants” (ugh) about what they will be doing as the tour moves forward.

Well, Bravo has announced the tour dates, so all you Top Chef fanatics take note: the tour could be coming to your city soon.


Long Island, NY June 21

Boston, MA July 1

Philadelphia, PA July 4

Pittsburgh, PA July 9

Columbus, OH July 12

St. Louis, MO July 16

Denver, CO July 19

Phoenix, AZ July 26

San Diego, CA July 30

San Francisco, CA August 2, 3

Los Angeles, CA August 8

Des Moines, IA August 16

Detroit, MI August 23

Madison, WI August 27

Chicago, IL September 3, 4

Raleigh, NC September 13

Tampa, FL September 20

Orlando, FL September 24

Atlanta, GA September 27

New York, NY TBD



That’s right, New York is TBD. Whatever.



So what can fans and affiliates expect? Well, in each city the cheftestants will perform four live interactive shows, three for fans and one for Bravo's cable affiliates.



Also on board the truck will be cooking demos, tastings, show secrets and cooking tips.

Affiliates will also get a private meet and greet with the chefs, taggable spots promoting the tour as well as logo and product placement inside the truck.

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LI chef already named. Josie

Just like concert and book tours. Bastids.

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cmon now

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Yeah, I don't follow his comings and goings. lol

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lol

COME ON

no

I'm just glad that Richard's "bronze medal" comment wasn't brought up.

Would any of you wear an "I have a culinary boner" tee in public? lol



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lol

I love how you've got Lisa in the foreground all, like, "*yawn*...whatever, dude."


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I'll check for the repeat