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3014664, Examples of any non-lyricist turning into a lyricist?
Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Mon Mar-18-19 12:28 AM
Like we've seen artists like Jay Z and Ice Cube among others go from being lyrical beasts into something less so.
But can you think of a rapper who started out as average or maybe even conversational and turning into an artist known for their lyricism?
I can think of producer / rappers who turned into decent rappers over time. But my mind is blank when I try and remember a rapper who started out not interested in lyricism and turned that deficiency into a strength.
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3014665, Lil Wayne
Posted by Shaun Tha Don, Mon Mar-18-19 12:51 AM
And ironically he didn't become a lyricist until he stopped writing after that 10 000 Bars track and had to carry CMR on his back.
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3014682, Does Ghostwriters Count?
Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Mon Mar-18-19 01:25 PM
Having Gillie Da Kid & Drake writing his rhymes helped a lot for his career.
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3014676, Rick Ross
Posted by dustin, Mon Mar-18-19 12:07 PM
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3014678, he dumbed down and then brought it back, doesn't count to me.
Posted by sweeneykovar, Mon Mar-18-19 12:16 PM
check his old pre-Hustlin shit. sounds like him now.
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3014681, COMMON (92) vs (94/95)
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Mon Mar-18-19 01:11 PM
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3014689, I imagine some people might say Jim Jones
Posted by High Society, Mon Mar-18-19 07:53 PM
because I see his name used when discussing this topic
though I’ve always felt Jim was underrated as a lyricist.
Since the first time I heard Diplomatic Immunity, the double disc joint,
I thought he was nice.
A perfect example is The First imo. He killed that. Actually as I sit here and write this:
Imo Jim I felt dumbed it down a bit on one of his solo efforts
- not the debut - and then picked the lyricism back up after that one dumbed down album.
Underrated artist and lyricist.
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3014692, Andre 3000
Posted by Dr_Gonzo, Mon Mar-18-19 11:24 PM
Not like he was ever weak, or even okay, lyrically. But he and Big Boi were good on their first, Dre had a moment or two on ATLiens, but I feel like he really became the monster lyricist we know him as on Aquemini. (I also think that's the album where Big Boi came into his own as far as delivery and flow.)
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3014694, Ghostface
Posted by IslaSoul, Tue Mar-19-19 06:15 AM
Not that he was a non-lyricist,
but when you listen to 36 chambers & Supreme Clientele
it's almost two different rappers (in terms of lyricism).
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3014701, Hell, the difference between 36 Chambers to Ironman was noticable
Posted by Adwhizz, Tue Mar-19-19 11:53 AM
Ghost was basically just yelling all his lyrics on that first album and they were pretty basic with a stilted delivery
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3014715, You could even notice the difference from 36 Chambers to OB4CL
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Tue Mar-19-19 09:33 PM
He was locked in by the time he did the 4th Chamber verse on Liquid Swords
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3014728, He first flipped the switch on "Brooklyn Zoo 2"
Posted by mrhood75, Wed Mar-20-19 03:53 PM
Got steadily better starting there.
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3014731, You could see the progression from Can It All Be So Simple to ...
Posted by Brew, Wed Mar-20-19 09:25 PM
... Mystery of Chessboxin'
LOL - I'm just fucking around but this exchange is cracking me up.
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3014703, TI
Posted by tariqhu, Tue Mar-19-19 12:48 PM
he was cool, but I feel like he got way better lyrically.
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3014714, Not a Non-Lyricist, but can we talk about the growth Big Pooh had
Posted by Nabs, Tue Mar-19-19 09:20 PM
once LB broke up, homeboy picked it up something serious. I became a legitimate fan.
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3014722, good one. LOVE SLEEPERS
Posted by , Wed Mar-20-19 11:11 AM
werd.
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3014718, phife? big jump from the 1st to the 2nd
Posted by mikediggz, Wed Mar-20-19 08:38 AM
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3014796, Bun B
Posted by jimaveli, Sat Mar-23-19 10:44 AM
He was basically a sidekick to Pimp C on the first UGK records.
He took a jump on Supertight. Then he became a monster in his own right on Ridin Dirty. His Murder verse was a master class. Pinky Ring too.
>Like we've seen artists like Jay Z and Ice Cube among others
>go from being lyrical beasts into something less so.
>
>But can you think of a rapper who started out as average or
>maybe even conversational and turning into an artist known for
>their lyricism?
>
>I can think of producer / rappers who turned into decent
>rappers over time. But my mind is blank when I try and
>remember a rapper who started out not interested in lyricism
>and turned that deficiency into a strength.
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