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Topic subject | Roc Marciano - Behold a Dark Horse |
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3009213, Roc Marciano - Behold a Dark Horse Posted by sectachrome86, Mon Sep-17-18 02:38 PM
Drops tonight at midnight.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bn1VqMmHO2g/?taken-by=rocmarci https://www.instagram.com/p/Bn1Th0dHoeD/?taken-by=rocmarci
Cover is fucking hard. Tracklist sounds very promising. Snippet sounds dope.
I whined about paying $30 for the last one but I might pony up for this. I just found out about the Warm Hennesey EP and I love it. Roc over hard drums is back?...
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3009214, AUTO-COP Posted by Dstl1, Mon Sep-17-18 02:45 PM
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3009219, RE: Roc Marciano - Behold a Dark Horse Posted by Numba_33, Mon Sep-17-18 03:26 PM
>Drops tonight at midnight. > >https://www.instagram.com/p/Bn1VqMmHO2g/?taken-by=rocmarci >https://www.instagram.com/p/Bn1Th0dHoeD/?taken-by=rocmarci > >Cover is fucking hard. Tracklist sounds very promising. >Snippet sounds dope. > >I whined about paying $30 for the last one but I might pony up >for this. I just found out about the Warm Hennesey EP and I >love it. Roc over hard drums is back?...
I had no knowledge about that EP you mentioned. Thank you for that info. According to what I see on social media, Roc is also dropping an album with beats from DJ Muggs. Dude is releasing quite the discography for 2018. Pretty impressive since he's independent and I'm guessing he has to do a fair amount of heavy lifting to get these projects out.
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3009262, Are there gonna be any drums? Posted by guru0509, Mon Sep-17-18 05:11 PM
Tired of the soft ass beats he's been rapping over lately
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3009273, Listen to the snippet and Warm Hennessy Posted by sectachrome86, Mon Sep-17-18 08:02 PM
I agree with you and so far so good.
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3009276, RE: AYO THIS WARM HENNESSY Posted by rmcphedr, Mon Sep-17-18 11:16 PM
how the fuck did I not hear about this? Shit is flames. Haven't heard Dino Brave for a while.
Are these verses old? I recognise the first joint, but not the others. roc's voice sounds like it did in the UN days.
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3009355, thats exactly what I thought too Posted by sectachrome86, Tue Sep-18-18 04:27 PM
Reminds me of the UN stuff
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3009362, I feel like they gotta be older Posted by Ishwip, Tue Sep-18-18 05:57 PM
>how the fuck did I not hear about this? Shit is flames. >Haven't heard Dino Brave for a while. > >Are these verses old? I recognise the first joint, but not the >others. roc's voice sounds like it did in the UN days.
They sound straight from The U.N. era, which is a great thing.
__ I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!
Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno
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3009272, Preorder is up Posted by mrshow, Mon Sep-17-18 07:55 PM
https://roc-marcianos-online-shop.myshopify.com/products/behold-a-dark-horse-exclusive-album-digital-download
Guessing it'll be up on Apple Music/Spotify/Tidal in a few weeks.
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3009278, THIRTY GODDAMN DOLLARS? Posted by fontgangsta, Tue Sep-18-18 08:00 AM
FOR A DOWNLOAD??
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3009289, I believe physical releases came later.. Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Tue Sep-18-18 10:06 AM
...at the same price point.
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3009321, In a week or two they usually show up on Spotify/Play/Apple Posted by Ishwip, Tue Sep-18-18 12:20 PM
>FOR A DOWNLOAD??
Pretty certain I will never pay that much for a digital download of anything, I'm sorry.
__ I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!
Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno
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3009776, What makes that even funnier Posted by Numba_33, Thu Sep-27-18 09:03 AM
is that the CD for this is now available on fatbeats.com for $12.99. Pretty hilarious. He is strictly indie, so I'm assuming Roc Marciano is fronting a large part of the funding for this roll out. Can't get too upset at him wanting to get his paper, but for strictly digital release to cost so much more than a CD version is pretty hilarious.
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3009301, Best Rapper. Posted by isaaaa, Tue Sep-18-18 11:34 AM
Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg http://Tupreme.com
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3009356, ^^ is not lying Posted by Dstl1, Tue Sep-18-18 04:33 PM
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3009611, Better than Lupe? Posted by Anonymous, Sat Sep-22-18 08:06 PM
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3009615, https://gifer.com/en/CRUT Posted by Dstl1, Sat Sep-22-18 11:20 PM
https://gifer.com/en/CRUT
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3009631, really makes no sense to compare them, may as well be different genres Posted by amplifya7, Sun Sep-23-18 11:51 AM
straight raw/'real hip hop'/gutter shit, vs high concept stuff with a wide range of emotions that's both abstract and pop-friendly.
Is Tarantino (Roc Marci) at his best "better" than Michel Gondry (Lupe) at his? Lupe/Gondry are my favorite, but i get why some people only like Tarantino/Roc Marci and enjoy them too.
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3009756, i disagree Posted by Small Pro, Wed Sep-26-18 03:34 PM
>straight raw/'real hip hop'/gutter shit, vs high concept >stuff with a wide range of emotions that's both abstract and >pop-friendly.
especially with these two, where if you pull up their lyrics you can see some similiar techniques and thought processeses regarding internal rhymes and some of the other truly nerdy things about rapping on a technical level
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3009358, Alright who's heard it? Posted by sectachrome86, Tue Sep-18-18 04:36 PM
Are there hard drums present?
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3009433, Ill answer myself - no there are not Posted by sectachrome86, Wed Sep-19-18 12:56 PM
for the most part. It's floating around on YouTube now.
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3009366, That run from "Congo" through "Amethyst" is fie Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Tue Sep-18-18 08:44 PM
Also liked "Fabio" and "Consigliere"
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3009415, well, shit Posted by Small Pro, Wed Sep-19-18 09:32 AM
was not expecting this. i think black thought should have been on track 2 instead of whatever joint he ended up on (c'mon! he would have killed that) but otherwise...no complaints. it'll be up there on my list by the end of the year, i definitely like it better than rosebudd's revenge 2
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3009426, Yep. Posted by squeeg, Wed Sep-19-18 11:10 AM
My only complaint is that "Secrets" feels out of place. It might've fit better on 'Rosebudd's Revenge 2,' or with some extra percussion.
>it'll be up there on my list by the end of the >year, i definitely like it better than rosebudd's revenge 2
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3009550, RE: Roc Marciano - Behold a Dark Horse Posted by Soulroe, Fri Sep-21-18 12:21 PM
Congo, Amethyst, Sampson & Delilah, No Love, Fabio...
Whooooo
Edit: Consigliere...man. Q-Tip ain't lost a step.
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3009552, Dude just keeps comin wit it - Posted by Mongo Slade, Fri Sep-21-18 01:37 PM
fire!
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3009596, His best project since Reloaded by a mile Posted by daskap, Sat Sep-22-18 02:27 PM
n/m
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3009606, Consigliere....geez, Tip... Posted by Dstl1, Sat Sep-22-18 07:02 PM
The beat flip on "Fabio"...whew! Only a couple listens in, but those two, Congo, Diamond Cutters, Amethyst...bangers! Damn, dude really won this hard twice in the same year.
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3009687, they mourned when you passed on Posted by guru0509, Mon Sep-24-18 07:14 PM
i yawned and moved a glass pawn
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3009757, goddamn lol Posted by Mafamaticks, Wed Sep-26-18 03:48 PM
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3009761, lol...Roc, man Posted by Dstl1, Wed Sep-26-18 05:22 PM
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3009767, 🔥 Posted by dula dibiasi, Wed Sep-26-18 09:14 PM
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3009989, Can't stop playin it Posted by jigga, Tue Oct-02-18 04:16 PM
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3009777, fabio Posted by infin8, Thu Sep-27-18 09:39 AM
I might throw a lightning rod cause I'm a god
strike you down in the streets like a dog
the delivery the beat
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3009829, if you like this, check out Knowledge the Pirate's latest album Posted by guru0509, Fri Sep-28-18 12:38 PM
Flint Lock is hard as hell
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3010111, no lies here Posted by infin8, Fri Oct-05-18 10:04 AM
Ruffled Feathers <---standout
it took me a minute to get on board with the whole A.H.O.Y thing, but when I found out it meant Allah Help Our Youth, it changed my perspective.
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3009861, Weird Pitchfork review Posted by PCProductions, Sat Sep-29-18 01:34 PM
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/roc-marciano-behold-a-dark-horse/
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3010051, how is it weird? Posted by Small Pro, Thu Oct-04-18 09:46 AM
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3010081, Came out of nowhere and isn't logically consistent Posted by PCProductions, Thu Oct-04-18 04:59 PM
The album isn't any worse on the homophobic front than anything else he's ever done and they just decide to make a full paragraph diatribe against the album for something that's just par for the course for his rapper persona.
It's also a bit odd to single that out when he's portraying a figure that pimps, steals, kills, etc. It just felt forced and intellectually dishonest.
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3010110, he used the 'd' word.. Posted by infin8, Fri Oct-05-18 10:02 AM
and that makes the whole album homophobic?
the writer posits that this is a character narrative but poetic license ain't allowed?
wypipo reviewing black music
how you give this and flintlock 7's? One is clearly better than the other.
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3010112, obviously fictional murder and pimpery Posted by Small Pro, Fri Oct-05-18 10:16 AM
are not the same as randomly dissing gay people mid-verse; i think attributing it to roc's rap character or persona is intellectually dishonest more than anything
i'm even not saying it makes me not want to listen, but it definitely sticks out among his lyrics, and the fact that it's been a staple is worth delving into rather than just going "ah man, that's just what he does"
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3010240, Roc is playing a character Posted by spirit, Mon Oct-08-18 11:06 AM
>are not the same as randomly dissing gay people mid-verse; i >think >attributing it to roc's rap character or persona is >intellectually dishonest more than anything >
You have no evidence that Roc is homophobic in real life, so why would you assume that anything homophobic on his records isn’t part of the same pimp persona character he created for the records? Similarly, how is it intellectually honest to excuse or ignore misogynistic language, but be upset at homophobic language? Not to mention advocacy of violence, sex trafficking and usage of the N word. It’s like watching Scarface and complaining that Tony wasn’t a responsible enough pet owner when he bought the tiger and fretting about whether the Colombians took better care of the tiger after they killed everybody.
Peace,
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3010255, you're right. Posted by Small Pro, Mon Oct-08-18 02:07 PM
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3010125, I see what you mean, my bad Posted by infin8, Fri Oct-05-18 04:31 PM
are you saying his use of the word d--e came out of nowhere, and isn't logically consistent.
I get that. I agree.
Am I a bad person because I overlook it's use when viewing the album as a whole? Would I feel the same if a metal group said n-gger. I don't know. Now I'm arguing with myself.
peace.
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3010241, You would ignore a metal group using the N word? Posted by spirit, Mon Oct-08-18 11:17 AM
A lot of rappers are just playing a persona. The people who are the best at it, I can tolerate in doses. A lot of these personas are character archetypes I recognize. In what context, other than a racist skinhead band, would the N word show up on a metal album? I think Guns n Roses did that once (on Appetite?), but pretty sure the song got pulled from subsequent pressings. I definitely didn’t buy any of their records during their height because of that
>are you saying his use of the word d--e came out of nowhere, >and isn't logically consistent. > >I get that. I agree. > >Am I a bad person because I overlook it's use when viewing the >album as a whole? Would I feel the same if a metal group said >n-gger. I don't know. Now I'm arguing with myself. > >peace.
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3010392, Are we mad at Perry Ferrel/Janes Addiction?? Posted by tully_blanchard, Fri Oct-12-18 09:44 AM
"Way down low where the streets are littered/
I find myself with the freaks and niggers"
-from a song called..Whores.
I always kinda looked at Perry and Axl differently...like...I could see Axl saying the word in casual conversation, like he hated black folk....but Perry was almost a sort of outcast, so he was seen as a "freak" or on the level as someone who would be called "nigger" anyway.
Then I found out Slash was black...then I stopped writing checks for artists just because I liked them...iono..I just felt like asking the question...lol
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3010682, same: just felt like asking Posted by infin8, Wed Oct-24-18 11:13 AM
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3010077, im going to need more time with this Posted by mista k5, Thu Oct-04-18 03:58 PM
im new to roc *ducks shoes*
the sound is not my typical vibe but the whole album sounded good on first listen. gotta see how they grow on me before giving any sort of review.
i dont know why my brain kept telling me his albums were 30 tracks when people said he was selling them for $30. that kind of kept me away but mostly i was waiting for it to be on google play.
i see why the drums are complained about but it seems his style needs the soft drums. the beats and the whole vibe is low key. kind of reminds me of mf doom or mac millers swimming (no disrespect to any of the rappers or their fans) get the same type of vibe from the three. they are each very unique from each other though.
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3010688, If you're not sure about this album Posted by sectachrome86, Wed Oct-24-18 05:26 PM
Listen to Marcberg. Or the UN. I love those. Newer stuff I dont hate but don't love either.
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3010235, WAS on spotify. Now it's not Posted by , Mon Oct-08-18 09:52 AM
I got to listen to the entire album this weekend on spotty. Now it's gone.
hmmm
werd.
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3010365, back on Spotify Posted by Dstl1, Thu Oct-11-18 06:32 AM
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3010494, Sans "Trojan Horse." Posted by squeeg, Mon Oct-15-18 07:54 PM
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3010413, Man I wish Roc would do a whole album with Pete Rock Posted by PCProductions, Fri Oct-12-18 11:30 PM
n/m
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3010427, *Alchemist and Harry Fraud would be my preferences Posted by guru0509, Sat Oct-13-18 12:23 PM
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3010689, Same Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Wed Oct-24-18 06:03 PM
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3010439, Pete Rock is killing it this year. Posted by High Society, Sat Oct-13-18 11:19 PM
He's got 2 of the HARDEST beats on Benoit. Then he comes back on Conway's latest album and gives him something with a completely different mood.
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3010478, Underwhelmed. And I paid 30 bucks. Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Oct-15-18 08:01 AM
Dude is starting to flood the market with this shit, which I get as a strategy, but it's taking away the some of the punch from his individual songs.
The bars just aren't as razor. As a rapper, he's not anywhere close to where was on RR 1 or 2
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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
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3010483, I'd have to disagree Posted by stone_phalanges, Mon Oct-15-18 11:28 AM
Behold a Dark Horse and KAOS are miles better than either RR project for me.
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3010484, haven't heard KAOS, but absolutely agree on RR1... Posted by Dstl1, Mon Oct-15-18 11:51 AM
and especially RR2.
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3010495, Maybe production wise. *Definitely* not lyrically. Haven't head Kaos. Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Oct-15-18 07:54 PM
>Behold a Dark Horse and KAOS are miles better than either RR >project for me.
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3010511, I orate to make the whores mate Posted by stone_phalanges, Tue Oct-16-18 01:36 PM
That's kaos though.
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3010517, Yeah unfortunately I'm gonna wait for Kaos cuz of this letdown Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Oct-16-18 06:34 PM
>That's kaos though.
Otherwise I'd spend the doe off cuff
But when you charge 30 for a subpar album, now fans are like "eh"
I mean, I paid 1/3 of that for Lupe's shit, and Lupe's shit is galaxies better
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3010491, you should have just inboxed me. Posted by guru0509, Mon Oct-15-18 05:04 PM
> >Dude is starting to flood the market with this shit, >which I get as a strategy, but it's taking away the >some of the punch from his individual songs. > >The bars just aren't as razor. As a rapper, he's >not anywhere close to where was on RR 1 or 2 > > >---------------------------- > > > >O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain" > > > > >"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..." > >(C)Keith Murray, "
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3010693, True indeed Posted by High Society, Wed Oct-24-18 08:03 PM
Might eavesdrop at the cheeba spot when I’m in need of guap with the fake beard like ZZ Top
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3010837, yall stay sleep Posted by infin8, Mon Oct-29-18 03:43 PM
ya only dreamin thass why I never lose I keep my gun close
screamin FUCK THE OTHERRR SIIIIIIIIIIIDE
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