Seems like the history of hip-hop there is always a boogieman of some sorts. You can almost do a timeline.

From Sucka MCs, to Sell Outs (Vanilla Ice & MC Hammer), PM Dawn type soft rappers, Puffy and the Shiny Suits, Playa Hatas, Gangsta's Keeping it Real (Maybe just to Native Tongue folks?), Laffy Taffy and Ringtone Rap, Autotune Rappers, Cheif Keef and Mumble Rappers, etc.

Are there other rap villains from the history of rap I am missing?


Is there a villain in rap these days?


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

>Cheif Keef and Mumble Rappers, etc.
>
>Are there other rap villains from the history of rap I am
>missing?
>
>
>Is there a villain in rap these days?

And was reminded that I think we were complaining about not understanding Cheif Keef like 6 years ago.

I also remember thinking Wacka Flocka was the worst thing to happen to hip-hop and now that seems like an overreaction these days.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Now I'd kill to have his style of goofy-and-pointless-but-at-least-lyrical shit dominate the radio.


>And was reminded that I think we were complaining about not
>understanding Cheif Keef like 6 years ago.
>
>I also remember thinking Wacka Flocka was the worst thing to
>happen to hip-hop and now that seems like an overreaction
>these days.
>
>
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>"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then
>they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
>
>"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

aka washed but refuses to accept it

Say what you will about the damage Bad Boy did to the rap game but I'll always appreciate them for bringing us the Madd Rapper skits.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BmvWzjlHsxR/?utm_source=ig_twitter_share&igshid=184i14b9nnkxn


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Chinese menu !

Remember when Ringtone rappers were a thing?

gimmicky.

Our favorite rappers use to insert "iggity" or "fashizzle" into words and we gonna judge?


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

>RE: I never got the "hashtag rap" diss. Maybe overused but wasn't THAT
>gimmicky.

The gimmicky part was the problem, to me at least, It was sorta creative and fun at first, but eventually it devolved into an omnipresent crutch that was no longer witty. Like I recall some MCs #rapping entire 16+ bar verses. It didn't have that type of power. It had limited effectiveness and needed to be minimized.


>Our favorite rappers use to insert "iggity" or "fashizzle"
>into words and we gonna judge?

Well yea I mean - I dunno. I don't really consider those two things to be the same .. like at all. Hashtag rap was like an attempt at creating an actual lyrical device that became a gimmick BECAUSE it was overused by folks who didn't know what to do with it. "iggity" and "fashizzle" and the like were just slang terms sometimes thrown in to rhymes but not nearly as overused as hashtag rap was.

Thankfully #rap was shortlived.

Somewhere out there, there’s still a whole niche group of fans who think it’s not “lyrical” if it’s not filled with punchlines.

Lyrical miracle was a low key diss of Organized Konfusion, Hiero, Freestyle Fellowship, and "all that crazy space shit that don't even make no sense" (c) Bandanna P

Thesaurus rappers was also thrown at them, Kweli, Keith Murray, and that whole Def Jux/Anticon crowd

The ones I hated were the struggle rappers outside of Fat Beats and every show with "check me out son, check my shit, got this CD, ten dollars yo!"

the whole hysteria around who's the gay rapper at the turn of the millennium was actually a blessing in disguise
it forced both the industry and the audience to get over their homophobia
even "pause/no homo" also helped