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3001509, Song with the best tidbit of industry knowledge
Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Wed Dec-31-69 07:00 PM
Just a funny post.

I'm sure there are other examples of MC's or singers dropping information about the business of making music or just making music into their songs, but these were the ones that immediately leapt into my mind.

Poll question: Song with the best tidbit of industry knowledge

Poll result (7 votes)
Industry Rule #4080 - Check the Rhime - A Tribe Called Quest (3 votes)Vote
I live by the beat, like you live check-to-check - Elevators - OutKast (2 votes)Vote
Other (2 votes)Vote

  

3001514, First of all, who's your A&R?
Posted by j., Tue Feb-13-18 10:56 AM
the struggle of trying to get outsiders to understand your vision and craft
3001527, In a wild way, No vaseline!
Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Tue Feb-13-18 12:39 PM
3001537, MC Rell & The Houserockers "Life Of An Entertainer"
Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Tue Feb-13-18 04:22 PM
This is one of two songs that come to mind, I remember seeing this video back in the day of Rap City with Thomas they Mayor of Rap City was hosting it, looked the song, took me almost 15 years to find this 12", still trying to luck up one day & find the cd or lp but heard it's rare too.

Anyway, this song is so funny but one thing I found out about rappers who rhyme about the industry usually never go anywhere or get famous, it's like a catch 22 thingy, lol.

"Life Of An Entertainer": https://youtu.be/7zePyDMOOvU


3001540, This LP?
Posted by normal35762, Tue Feb-13-18 05:29 PM
https://www.discogs.com/MC-Rel-Into-The-Future/master/206867
3001701, I had taped this song on pre recorded cassettes
Posted by Lil Rabies, Mon Feb-19-18 12:30 AM
Back day. What happened to hip hop?
3001777, This was my joint when it came out
Posted by 13Rose, Thu Feb-22-18 11:09 AM
I only ever heard the song when I saw the video on Video Music Box.
3001538, Royal Fam "Summin' Gotz To Give"
Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Tue Feb-13-18 04:41 PM
This one of two songs I think of off the bat when thinking of songs about the industry, one was MC Rell, the other is Royal Fam's "Summin' Gotz To Give", basically just dissin' new artists about how they need to quit and their efforts are a total waste.

I remember when Wu-affiliates were starting to come out and get signed to various labels and buying those 12"s when I saw them, during this time I was doing underground mixtapes and putting "Summin' Gotz To Give" accapella over the Jay Dee remix instrumental of "One Little Indian", anyway.

Funny thing about this (like I said in a previous post) is that artists who usually make songs like this either get dropped before the album is released or if it does get released it's usually undersold or didn't sell at all; with Royal Fam, they got dropped from Capitol Records, and the album that was suppose to come out in '96 got released in 2000 as an import thru RZA's Wu-Tang label.

"Summin' Gotz To Give": https://youtu.be/PJ1mu9JoMmg


3001539, Industry Rule #4081
Posted by spenzalii, Tue Feb-13-18 05:01 PM
Shout out to Apache...
3001547, Almost posted this. I've always wondered who he was talking about...
Posted by mrhood75, Tue Feb-13-18 06:33 PM
...on that track.
3001546, J-Live - Them That's Not
Posted by Ishwip, Tue Feb-13-18 06:20 PM
Once upon a time there was a brotha named Kastro
Had a little problem with his cash flow
More than once his friend'd tell me he had a dream to clock mad dough
Only at the time it seem that absurd
Then he saw a light bulb flash up in his forehead
Shine so bright he had to close both eyes
Said whoever hit him for the average poor asshole
'Bout to be hit for they biggest surprise
Now meanwhile, still short on pot to piss in
Not to mention any window to throw it out
Lookin like who don't you want and where it come from
Sippin on chicken wing, smackin on stout
Step to his boys, the label of the month
Like 'yo, what's the haps kid, let me get a deal'
Got a dope style, sound just like so and so
What's her name, runnin from ya, even more ill
Make ya wanna holler like Marvin, did I mention I'm starvin and quite thirst
Meanin what, meanin that I'm a do whatever it take to make sure they play my shit first
On the Billboard and last on the countdown, like contact on that show
So what's up black, yo, how that sound?
If you down then c'mon let's go
Down to the studio right now, bring me that crate with the old hits
Make that beat with the right style, so that brotha wanna go get
In that club with the DJ, he be on the radio all day
I get in cool with him even though he fake as a toupee
I roll with ballers and thugs to make my image legit
Even though back in the day they told me "you ain't shit"
I'm at the Cinderella ball, now it just don't quit
Eh, Fuck that, I shrink my feet if the shoe don't fit
I make it happen like hormones, you been forewarned
I got you mad now cause I'm kickin that popcorn
It blows up in a couple minutes
Expand the pockets so your girl's hand's all in it
I see ya shorty starin at me on the guest line
But these four backstage'll do me just fine
Or five, that's for my jam on the request line
So if you stress me I could tell you through the grapevine

Yo, I'm number one, but the bullet can't hack it now
The Billboard need a full metal jacket now
You see my face all day 'til it make you sick
I got a hand full of cards, you can take your pick
Now who'd a thought this bullshit song'd have me seen
And every video and every other magazine
With more attention than a jet black drag queen
At a convention with a Grand Dragon Klans meetin
Kids hang on every word I say like a damn fiend
It's too bad it don't stand for a damn thing
They parents say I'm too nasty for they damn teen
But I ain't write it so don't ask me what the fuck it mean
I got some other shit to worry 'bout instead
The more money, more problems like the man said
Ain't like my phone is bein tapped by the damn FEDs
But my accountant said I can't get out the damn red
I heard that people gettin tired of my song now
The album drops and now my fans are gettin hostile
I only had one song that got the style right
The guy who wrote it, yo, his album dropped last night
My pockets on Slim Fast and Jenny Craig
The same clubs and restaraunts that kept me well fed
Reject my credit like a Muslim do a boar's head
Good thing my boss is my boy so I ain't gotta beg
But now he hollerin at me like 'yo, where the loot went?'
We had to clear the damn sample when the loop went
We comin up type short like an indent
And I just learned a new word called recoupment
I got paid for the video equipment
And every other detail a red cent spent
Oh hell nah, don't talk about no fuckin fine print
Well tell me this, how the hell I'm gonna pay the rent
I got a live-in landlord so now I tiptoe
In and out the crib to find a way to get dough
Can't make another record cause I can't flow
But I could tell you a little story
And that shit go


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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)
3001631, Do people know about this song?
Posted by third_i_vision, Thu Feb-15-18 06:12 PM
It's obviously brilliant, but in the big picture I feel like it might've gotten overlooked.

I have the promo 12" with the acapella and I always wanted to pose a remix challenge with it. Would be fun to hear producers try to keep up.
3001582, Get a good lawyer so problems won't pile...
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Wed Feb-14-18 01:45 PM
...you don't wanna make a pitch that's wild







3001601, lol...pick several songs off most any J-Zone album
Posted by Dstl1, Wed Feb-14-18 05:39 PM
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3001608, the Miracles with Billy Griffin post smokey Robinson" ain't nobody straight in La"
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Wed Feb-14-18 10:54 PM
ain't nobody straight in La" was something else when it was released.
3001644, richard marx it Don't mean nothing"
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Fri Feb-16-18 12:30 AM
he did this cut with Don Henley and it was his debut cut back in 87. still bumps.
3001703, Dr Dre "Dre Day"
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Mon Feb-19-18 01:42 AM
that video and song spilled over the cup.
3001704, Somebody just made 40 million dollars...
Posted by Mageddon, Mon Feb-19-18 08:58 AM
...and it sho' wasn't you, nigga.

Ras Kass - The Music of Business
https://youtu.be/ZclJB7M6cC8
3001715, kokane feat Cold 187 - Don’t Bite the Funk
Posted by ry 213, Mon Feb-19-18 01:16 PM
Everything 187 said on there about Death Row was true. Back in those days a lot of people thought the Ruthless camp were just haters because of Dre’s success but time showed that what they were saying was true.
3001718, Del's Nightmare
Posted by melmag, Mon Feb-19-18 02:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys3Sd8fgN44
3001731, The Smiths
Posted by KennyFresh, Tue Feb-20-18 07:37 AM
I probably think of "You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby" in regards to some business shit at least 5 times a week – even if that wasn't the song's intent

And "Paint A Vulgar Picture" might be one of the best summaries of the music industry, from all angles (label, artist, and fan), ever.


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3001788, That Pink joint with the LA Reid line in it
Posted by FunkyBoss, Thu Feb-22-18 08:39 PM
3001789, cormega industry song
Posted by FunkyBoss, Thu Feb-22-18 08:47 PM
3001793, Jews run it/Niggas run around in it.
Posted by Shaun Tha Don, Thu Feb-22-18 09:59 PM
(c) Ras Kass - Uni-4-Orm
3001797, I really enjoyed Kanye's 'Last Call' for this
Posted by Call It Anything, Thu Feb-22-18 11:51 PM
3001830, Devin the Dude and Andre3k on What a Job
Posted by Playa_Politician, Fri Feb-23-18 02:58 PM
https://genius.com/Devin-the-dude-what-a-job-lyrics