I hated that shit back in the day... my boy loved them fuckers and would drive from Palmdale to be in Leimert, lol

but when Ava dropped when the west was one, it really recontextualized them for me and I went a bit of a binge...

they really some of the most talented rappers ever and they still hella obsucre

shit I even ended up in a cipher with P.E.A.C.E circa 2012 just marveling at how gifted he was with writtens and off the top (like for real of the top)