>
>>But it's ridiculous to suggest that there can be only ONE
>>artist who can can achieve the success that he has at this
>>moment in time and that there is no black male who can.
>>
>
>Pop is blockbuster silo'd... Rihanna doesn't play in Beyonce's
>lane doesn't play in Adele's lane... Bruno purposely stopped
>playing in Ed Sheeran space and Ed cannot play in Bruno space
>
>
>>Shit even when Michael Jackson was the Michael Jackson of
>his
>>time, there were plenty of artists who were in the
>>conversation and competing with him. Artist like Prince,
>>Madonna, George Michael, Whitney Huston, Lionel Richie.
>None
>>achieved the success that MJJ did, but neither has Bruno
>Mars.
>>
>There was money in the labels then.. R&B competing at that
>level COSTS a lot of money... to take 1 song to top 10 could
>cost 500k-1m.. They only risk that on sure bet lanes...
>Arianna, Demi, Rihanna are song vehicles.. Tinashe cannot get
>close to them because her vehicle isnt strong or fast
>enough..
>
>Bruno IS the gas AND the vehicle so he doesnt have to play in
>that (song placement) space. He circumvented a near
>impossible hill and is now at the top.. So anyone who wants to
>write a certain kind of song (outside of his crew) and have it
>heard like a James Fauntleroy is sending it to Bruno or JT..
>NOT to some up and coming dude who can maybe dance..
>
>>
>>Also, this is such a ridiculous position because there are
>>clearly other artist who are competing for the top of the
>Pop
>>Kingdom in 2018. Rihanna, Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry.
>
>>My question is why are there no Black Males trying to reach
>>that level.
>>
>
>I answered this above.. Drake is the strongest vehicle for men
>out (besides Beibs). That means if you are a known/hit making
>songwriter or producer you are saving you best shit for the
>strongest vehicles and you are making those records FOR those
>vehicles.
>
>If someone (not just a black dude) cannot write and produce
>the songs on their OWN... they arent gonna get in the game to
>even compete with Bruno... You are asking someone to race a
>ferrari riding a bike..
>
>Everything is Rap nowadays because from day one rap had a DIY
>ethos. So most rappers and rap adjacent folks are trained to
>write their own shit.. get their boy to make a beat and keep
>grinding until it pops.
>
>The new R&B we hear learned this ethos and is implementing it.
> 6lack, Byrson etc are making records like rappers do.
>
>R&B and esp the groove r&b we are talking about was built on 1
>of 2 ways... You were in a band with your boys and ya'll got
>really good any made awesome records until they popped.
>
>OR
>
>You were plucked from "the mall" and placed in a group or good
>enough to be solo. Taught how to dance, dress, sing (better)
>in a system. You were given pre written songs to sing from a
>system and you just had to get up there and kill it.
>
>Both of these scenarios rarely happen because in the first one
>we have lost bands in general ($, school programs, technology,
>culture etc) and in the second the labels/production companies
>foot the bill for years until it worked. They arent footing
>the bill.
>
>What you are asking for is too dependent on money and outside
>partners to work.
>
>So it COULD happen but extremely rare