We have come with the most far out hip hop records. Now let’s bring out the most far out jazz records.

I will start with Ornette Coleman:

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3CORvPuwGFBjWrJaDn7KL3zBT37z0oQd

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLe8JAHc-WH2AeI12VcXGL6BuSS_BKisXT&v=a16O9Ns_xno

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xbZIiom9rDA

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0hIEPPfVcVE

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WEtbEdV3nko

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oBTheWr9x7k

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ua5S8UmoeWs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xg6ygbd5Wfs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r1xl2cPs3U4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_FBREnqelU

N/M

Older:

Bill Dixon: https://youtu.be/1hSezaFqXc8
John Coltrane: https://youtu.be/TuzfMR-7v1I
Alice Coltrane: https://youtu.be/HLwjsvrGAq4
Cecil Taylor: https://youtu.be/e_VthdlXvp0
Andrew Hill: https://youtu.be/zwWO8UYjmfI
Pharaoh Sanders: https://youtu.be/5aoSMnvje6A
Sun Ra: https://youtu.be/iEOb3vsC3-0
Sam Rivers: https://youtu.be/V906LOooYO8
Horace Tapscott: https://youtu.be/7ow-PrBqgcc

Modern:

Tomas Fujiwara: https://youtu.be/2n3-F0zril0
Mary Halvorson: https://youtu.be/iAHc2mLJ1sE
Vijay Iyer: https://youtu.be/zLxVisyR0o4
Taylor Ho Bynum: https://youtu.be/pKdDgzy6CUQ
Tomeka Reid: https://youtu.be/wtex6cVdiGI
Matana Roberts: https://youtu.be/U2Undhzx-wA

I've really been on an avant garde vibe lately with jazz, specifically Mary Halvorson related stuff (she is on the Tomeka Reid, Ho Bynum, Fujiwara), I know she isn't for everything, but she just has such a unique style, that "Away With You" record is really something and whenever she plays as a sideman she always adjusts accordingly while still keeping her signature style

And that Matana Roberts album I linked to has some of the most unsettling, uncomfortable, visceral stuff I've heard from an emotional/musical stand point...I have to be in a certain mood for it but it is basically like a movie when I am haha

i like mary halvorson too. i even saw her live once with her trio. it was fantastic!

haven't heard matana roberts much but from what i've heard it seems like she is on that old school free jazz sound. might have to listen more though.

also, i looove that bill dixon record, intents and purposes.

Yeah I've seen her live twice, her Village Vanguard gig a couple months ago with her Octet was absolutely incredible. I actually just got into that Bill Dixon album the other day - I didn't even know who he was until I heard that the last song on that Taylor Ho Bynum album was dedicated to him. That Bill Dixon album is great though, really like how the strings are used in it and his playing is great

Here's some stuff I wrote about Bill Dixon some years ago: http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2893504&mesg_id=2893504&listing_type=search#2896066

I mixed up "Son of sisyphus" and "Thoughts" (I meant the latter), otherwise, I stand by what I wrote; this boxset of his Soul Note records is highly recommended and quite a bargain: https://www.discogs.com/Bill-Dixon-The-Complete-Remastered-Recordings-On-Black-Saint-Soul-Note/release/3535293

Of course, they have literally all those records on Spotify too but whatever...

Anyway, BIG fan of dude and he was extremely important as a teacher/ideologist etc. in 60's free jazz; it was he who started the Jazz Composers Guild for example and also organized the october revolution in jazz in NYC in '64. Unfortunately, his discography in the 60's and 70's is very small but he made up for it in the 80's and continued to make music in his trademark style-no compromises...

that is one of the best threads I've ever seen on this board haha

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk0ypnd01bw

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WS8PK53DYGA

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3iv72L-7bz4

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PL4fVbdWiJlTsH8RgYsN3rnrH69J1Umgkh&v=JSFWG6WUz8I

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W32Am2co82s

Rashied Ali&Frank lowe-Duo Exchange:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvAmsWNVgZE

Charles Tyler-Saga of the Outlaws:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VA3BKZr170

Frank Wright & Noah howard-Church nr 9.:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvAIUnKoQiA (pt1 I couldn't find:( )

Archie Shepp-One for Trane pt II:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIcWbU10NH4 Peep the saxophone *TONE*!!! Illest ever...

Robin Kenyatta-You Know How We Do:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAqO8izZ3mA&index=3&list=PL7_IIKq9aeZ9nEmJR9bw5dmqZRKFNVA2v

Dewey Redman-look for the black star:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPsYS3Kr1IA&t=2175s

Ornette Coleman-Trouble in te east (mistitled on record; Space Jungle is anoter tune):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkgsT6qtXJE

Ornette (again)-Law Years:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGPFNGTTdTs

Cecil Taylor (=GOAT!!!)-Spring of...:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AQq8fTkNxU

Albert Ayler-Summertime (MONSTER version!!!):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Id6N30MuII

Sam Rivers-Tranquility:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK6wBT2Fi4Y

Anthony braxton (solo!!!)-To pianist Cecil Taylor:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUSsGKiAjgk

Don Cherry-the Thing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Nk4tLDz-Y

Aaly Trio-Würzburg:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAFZvL5Ha3A

bill Dixon-Voices:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKcfbaeMD-g

Marion Brown-Porto Novo:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fRqcLO5jVk

...and so on. Mainly stuff from 60's-early 70's since that's where my interest primarily lays, I like later avantgarde stuff to though as evidenced y my Aaly Trio link.

that archie shepp recording is amazing.

That whole album is a scorcher-it was recorded for a dutch radio broadcast and is much looser than Brown's records on ESP and impulse with Bennink in particularly just spazzing out in his wacky style and also playing a little tabla and shit. Strangely, it's my favorite Marion Brown album...

Here’s one from Joe that was out there.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dga4Ie74U0Q


Tony Williams Lifetime

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxeiY5kXz8Y

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP-NUTVLbG4j2xswsaRKDh81is89lIMjQ

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb3lXma4v1A

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OnV6o_KDMHY

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wMHj0POJqFw

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L7hWtnhYh8c

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQ2MYrzRKgIKqyHc04P1imfXdzsLoUes9

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIXCvTLKXWuFN67NGUIOyOWID9jL2Ei5F

https://destination-out.bandcamp.com/album/before-the-world

http://bandcamp.for-tune.pl/album/not-bound

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AgBv9scDsPc

https://intlanthem.bandcamp.com/album/not-living-in-fear

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3XxXq0Uyl_w

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=31YaAXC8ciE

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kDZg-M1x6mM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kqyWHaW9CaA

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MrJPohi02cc

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zio-8p5TDIU

https://jonbap.bandcamp.com/album/yesterdays-homily

I suggested it to my dad and he liked it. he's into jazz the way Im into Hip-Hop

Have you ever put him on to this oldie but goodie???

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL590CE3E40099F736

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x2HZQ70hpbU

not specifically thinking in "avant guard" terms just some good stuff that i like.

darek bailey - improvisation 1975
solo guitar
https://youtu.be/mfMVQ-DvAB8

tony oxley - ichnos
w/evan parker, barry guy, evan parker, kenny wheeler and paul rutherford
https://youtu.be/4JEp_UUwq7E

fieldwork - live at le poisson rouge, nyc 2008
vijay iyer, steve lehman, tyshawn sorey
https://youtu.be/mlw24oWkgMo

That Darek Bailey and Tony Oxley is nice.

I have checked out Vijay Iyer... dude is nice.

Dave Holland and Derek Bailey

Improvisations for Cello and Guitar

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl_ObKL3Y9s

yeah, i think i have. sounds really good.

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https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWogjQLocFYUzcgHVlqc8DEoCQ9tkWRHm

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLARWvlpkicFpHl3T7DO7CcN79ztKaCRAW

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLk5HwpdvWv3X8TtQfxl56q8fIAVHrt07G

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D5rdlkZTqeY

this is why I come here

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UKYDec_2B1o

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vQJS6lZjh74

marion brown septett - juba lee
https://youtu.be/roESXC73jLw

jimmy guiffre, paul bley, steve swallow
flight from the album emphasis & flight 1961
https://open.spotify.com/track/0VBrMLXYCxf0buwJlPplOK

it's not on youtube.

Good stuff

that guiffre/bley/swallow trio was ahead of their time imo.

>that guiffre/bley/swallow trio was ahead of their time imo.

song of praise from live at the half note
https://youtu.be/n-NWoR3DGJI

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jPNQzFQkZyg

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G8nB5gaQggs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YmNkGQm1YE4

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Cwoz_JnyM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=usoXOaoWRIQ

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y3BFn4TuLL0

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUfYhiL9NqMeJbup74TLM3dMQNj_D5154

https://youtu.be/GJZuf4OiMcQ

Not exactly avant gaurd, since its sooo melodic. But the way he incorporates all these different musical elements is absolutely genius. I think there is something, at this point, avant guard about playing Jazz music that is designed to be as well crafted as a pop album with a million dollar plus budget. This guy is introducing prepared piano, electronic drum programming, poly rhythms, and even novel distribution channels. He released his last album as an app, so musicians can hone in on each instrumental part, see the musical notation, and play along.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuGc7YvQzeM&t=2453s

>Not exactly avant gaurd, since its sooo melodic. But the way
>he incorporates all these different musical elements is
>absolutely genius. I think there is something, at this point,
>avant guard about playing Jazz music that is designed to be as
>well crafted as a pop album with a million dollar plus budget.
>This guy is introducing prepared piano, electronic drum
>programming, poly rhythms, and even novel distribution
>channels. He released his last album as an app, so musicians
>can hone in on each instrumental part, see the musical
>notation, and play along.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuGc7YvQzeM&t=2453s

No not avant-garde but the melodies are not traditional. Hopefully he will move to a move avant-garde sound in the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDrEHphZbcE

It's definitely avant guard for a blues and hard rock album, but I don't know if I would call it jazz.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDrEHphZbcE
>
>It's definitely avant guard for a blues and hard rock album,
>but I don't know if I would call it jazz.

It don’t know if I wouldn’t call it jazz since the genre has given birth to many sounds. It was definitely a progressive rock/blue grass sound. I thought it was pretty good.

If you take this recording for instance...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ayDDa0SnUuc

It has a definite progressive rock/jazz feel to it.

Artists such as Tony Williams Lifetime, Mahavishnu Orchestra, or Mary Halvorson to name a few could bend the genre to make the sound wanted. In Esperanza’s case while the album is good, I wonder how far she will continue to go in this direction.

to me it wasn't avant garde in the way that I think of the term in regards to jazz, but what it was was a great LP of fusion-ish things and occasionally funk-ish and psych-rock ish things fit into a pop song length. That was one of my favorite albums of that year

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0TcSK6MYkpU

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RXzQUa9qHhY

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=60HhZmssjPE

w/cory smyth and chris tordini
https://tyshawn-sorey.bandcamp.com/album/verisimilitude

This is amazing!!!!!!

It gets really interesting around the 6 min mark. What instrument is that, a glockenspiel? The way the percussion starts subtly interacting with the piano part is mind blowing.

It's so sparse and glacial, when anything happens your mind immediately grabs on to it and then it just kinda dissipates until something new pops up.

i had the luck of having the chance to listen to this trio live yesterday and i really have no words but was FANTASTIC!!!! :-D

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiHoHaF6SHc-H5_QRWZKFel2dWgVhpTd0

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-hcAggZjz_w

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CYTsTtmw5lY

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WxfkssXdgVc

pi recordings releases a lot of great stuff.

also, it's weird that we haven't "met" on the boards before. :-)

I rarely post on here. I had been gone for some years and I just started posting again recently.

listening to Travail, Transformation and Flow right now, great stuff, love his playing on this record (and on the latest Vijay Iyer Sextet album) and his compositions are very interesting. Sorey (drums) is a beast on this thing too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS5p4M08jJs&index=2&list=PL5Fsk3NnpU7PQoA7fJAQvbhdpFsoZPY0u

You're welcome in advance LOL

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mdaMdBDsRD0

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BU_ANAC5N_s

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VhTDmjngPjU



Rashied Ali + Frank Lowe

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2WpJ3qzNqkY

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G_R7DvIQOSM

This belongs here even though I don't personally agree with everything that is being said about preforming or listening to free improv. Still worth a read.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/nov/15/free-improvisation-jazz-ultimate-underground-music

Free improvisation: still the ultimate in underground music?

Pioneered in the 1950s by musicians breaking the rules of jazz and composition, free improvisation is still as difficult – and potentially transcendent – as it ever was. A Guardian documentary takes you inside its world

by Noah Payne-Frank

“There are people that hear it once and think: never again!” says Evan Parker of free improvisation, a musical style that some might compare to a jazz band falling down the stairs – and others find transcendental. “Then there are people who hear it once and say, ‘My god, what was that?’ But they creep back, because there’s something that’s connected for them. There’s a worldview involved that touches people.” This short film, as part of the Guardian’s series on underground music, featuring Parker as well as other free improv luminaries such as John Edwards and Eddie Prévost, gives you a six-minute taste of this worldview.
Free improvisation: still the ultimate in underground music?

Parker has spent 50 years playing his saxophone without a song sheet, without notation and often without any idea of how a performance is going to evolve. I’ve seen the moment he describes unfold a number of times. At a Parker show in 2014, a clean-cut couple sat next to me watched the first 50-minute set of the evening in near silence, before turning to me to exclaim: “What the hell just happened?” An hour later they said: “Well, it’s something to tell them about at work tomorrow …”

None of this is to say that the music is elitist – in fact it represents the absolute rejection of the elite. The origins are disputed, but at some point in the late 1950s jazz players and modern composers who were repelled by the codification conservatism of their peers and broke free. There is no manifesto, no union or club you can join, just a shared worldview and an acceptance that no one is going to get rich from it. The claims of non-hierarchical band structures are not always borne out – you can’t deny the seniority of experience, or the person who organised the gig – but this is as close as you’re going to get to a music that reflects socialist values.

All of this makes it the ultimate in underground music. The music is simply too inaccessible for the mainstream, and no one involved is particularly interested in it anyway.

There are key recordings – Parker’s Topography of the Lungs, AMM’s AMMMusic – but for many of the musicians, the process of making the music is as important as the results. This creates a suspicion that free improvisation is simply music for musicians, that an audience can never get close to it in the same way a performer can. There is some truth in this. Occasionally at live shows, you feel as if you’ve intruded on someone’s private space, or that you’re watching scientists at work in the lab. But if you put the effort in and offer yourself to it, the shock you might feel at first will recede, and, as Parker says, you’ll creep back.

>This belongs here even though I don't personally agree with
>everything that is being said about preforming or listening to
>free improv. Still worth a read.
>
>https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/nov/15/free-improvisation-jazz-ultimate-underground-music
>
>Free improvisation: still the ultimate in underground music?
>
>Pioneered in the 1950s by musicians breaking the rules of jazz
>and composition, free improvisation is still as difficult –
>and potentially transcendent – as it ever was. A Guardian
>documentary takes you inside its world
>
>by Noah Payne-Frank
>
>“There are people that hear it once and think: never
>again!” says Evan Parker of free improvisation, a musical
>style that some might compare to a jazz band falling down the
>stairs – and others find transcendental. “Then there are
>people who hear it once and say, ‘My god, what was that?’
>But they creep back, because there’s something that’s
>connected for them. There’s a worldview involved that
>touches people.” This short film, as part of the
>Guardian’s series on underground music, featuring Parker as
>well as other free improv luminaries such as John Edwards and
>Eddie Prévost, gives you a six-minute taste of this
>worldview.
>Free improvisation: still the ultimate in underground music?
>

I do experience with people who hear avant-garde (free improv) for the first time and their reaction is one of which it looks like they ate an onion. You do have to truly appreciate the stuff that we listen to because not everyone is going to appreciate it. Is it what I consider underground... NO!!!! There are some free improvisers that have been accept by a majority of jazz listeners.

>None of this is to say that the music is elitist – in fact
>it represents the absolute rejection of the elite. The origins
>are disputed, but at some point in the late 1950s jazz players
>and modern composers who were repelled by the codification
>conservatism of their peers and broke free. There is no
>manifesto, no union or club you can join, just a shared
>worldview and an acceptance that no one is going to get rich
>from it. The claims of non-hierarchical band structures are
>not always borne out – you can’t deny the seniority of
>experience, or the person who organised the gig – but this
>is as close as you’re going to get to a music that reflects
>socialist values.
>
I think this is a very true statement. I feel that straight ahead jazz musicians have always felt that they are the elite... that they play true jazz music. I remember reading articles, statements from Wynton and Crouch pretty much condemning free improvisers. Also Kool and the Gang walking out in disgust at a Sun Ra concert. There definitely has to be an appreciation for this form of art.


>All of this makes it the ultimate in underground music. The
>music is simply too inaccessible for the mainstream, and no
>one involved is particularly interested in it anyway.
>

Avant-garde has never been inaccessible. In fact it is very accessible, it’s just that some choose not to want to have access.

>There are key recordings – Parker’s Topography of the
>Lungs, AMM’s AMMMusic – but for many of the musicians, the
>process of making the music is as important as the results.
>This creates a suspicion that free improvisation is simply
>music for musicians, that an audience can never get close to
>it in the same way a performer can. There is some truth in
>this. Occasionally at live shows, you feel as if you’ve
>intruded on someone’s private space, or that you’re
>watching scientists at work in the lab. But if you put the
>effort in and offer yourself to it, the shock you might feel
>at first will recede, and, as Parker says, you’ll creep
>back.

Not sure where Parker was going with this... but okay. No matter what the genre is, at live shows you are always sharing your music with your audience. It is way more personal at a live show than a record for sure. It is more intimate because the listener has gone beyond the realm of just listening to the record to seeing the artist in person and possibly have a conversation with them. How is this intrusion?

>Pioneered in the 1950s by musicians breaking the rules of jazz
>and composition, free improvisation is still as difficult –
>and potentially transcendent – as it ever was. A Guardian
>documentary takes you inside its world

to me it's not difficult. in fact, it's very simple and direct. you will feel it instantly. that is to say if the performance is open and including.

>“There are people that hear it once and think: never
>again!” says Evan Parker of free improvisation, a musical
>style that some might compare to a jazz band falling down the
>stairs – and others find transcendental. “Then there are
>people who hear it once and say, ‘My god, what was that?’
>But they creep back, because there’s something that’s
>connected for them. There’s a worldview involved that
>touches people.”

yes, some people react this way but to me it's not important if you like/not like it, or if you feel that you would or wouldn't go to a improv concert again. the experience then and there is the thing. what happens after is not important. also, every improv concert is not the same. for starters, they can sound wildly different from each other and also i would say that the intent of the musicians can vary a lot, and that shows in the music and the experience of listening.

the woldview thing. yeah, maybe for the most part.

>None of this is to say that the music is elitist – in fact
>it represents the absolute rejection of the elite. The origins
>are disputed, but at some point in the late 1950s jazz players
>and modern composers who were repelled by the codification
>conservatism of their peers and broke free. There is no
>manifesto, no union or club you can join, just a shared
>worldview and an acceptance that no one is going to get rich
>from it. The claims of non-hierarchical band structures are
>not always borne out – you can’t deny the seniority of
>experience, or the person who organised the gig – but this
>is as close as you’re going to get to a music that reflects
>socialist values.

about the rejection of the elite. yeah, definitely back in the days but nowadays people choose to play so called free improv for different reasons and have different intent in doing so.

wynton and crouch are elitist but there definitely are elitist among improv musicians now too.

in an ideal session there is no hierarchy at all but i think that rarely is the case. even though there is no outspoken hierarchy (or more of an authority i would say), it occurs while the performance is happening.

i can try and explain it better if you want. :-) i have some experience in this.

>There are key recordings – Parker’s Topography of the
>Lungs, AMM’s AMMMusic – but for many of the musicians, the
>process of making the music is as important as the results.
>This creates a suspicion that free improvisation is simply
>music for musicians, that an audience can never get close to
>it in the same way a performer can. There is some truth in
>this. Occasionally at live shows, you feel as if you’ve
>intruded on someone’s private space, or that you’re
>watching scientists at work in the lab. But if you put the
>effort in and offer yourself to it, the shock you might feel
>at first will recede, and, as Parker says, you’ll creep
>back.

i think the only part of this paragraph that is parkers is "you'll creep back", the rest is the writer of the article. it's weird that he says that musicians feel that the result is important. i think it's mostly not the case.

about the music for musicians. i think it often becomes that due to the performance not being open and including as i mentioned before. also, musicians playing strictly from their ego. if it is open, inclusive and non authoritarian, the listener is exectly as much of a part of the creation as the musician.

about the intruding into someone's space, i don't know where he gets that. maybe the writer experienced that.

How much of your jazz collection is avant-garde (free improv)?

probably less than a third of it. i have a friend who is a record collector. he has a lot of improv/free jazz records.

https://youtu.be/f1NKMV9YlWc

https://intlanthem.bandcamp.com/album/highly-rare

A.R.C.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zN-8riI_j9s

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PWUx5s8ua9A

This is an excellent documentary piece on the most mysterious musician the world has ever know. It gives great insight on who Ra truly is.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l2N7pkXGRC8

these are not on youtube but on spotify

six little pieces for quintet (2000)
w/dörner, mahall, sandell and bauer
https://open.spotify.com/album/6jNyB0U0DZYumOphNSLLpt

brötzmann/schlippenbach/johansson - up and down the lion (1979)
https://open.spotify.com/album/6VPIcWo1JPjm16gAnN8CJ7

One of my favorite records...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zFA0FYQo0Gg

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2087850014/milford-graves-full-mantis-feature-film/description

the videoclip is awesome.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u7YXvjEPruk

Haha, but seriously. Did y'all check out In Movement last year? DeJohnette, Ravi Coltrane, and Matthew Garrison trio album. Matthew Garrison is the son of Coltrane Sr.'s bassist Jimmy Garrison, and I think DeJohnette played with Coltrane Sr, but I'm not sure about on wax though. Anyway, it was my fav jazz album last year. There's something about free-jazz, drum-bass-sax trios that just gets me (Garrison plays electric guitar too on there and DeJohnette also plays piano on some joints). I don't know why.

But his discography as leader and sideman is a who's who of free/avant-garde jazz musicians, starting of course with Miles. Special Edition (1979), I think, is his critics-approved classic album as leader. I'd actually recommend starting with records with him as sideman, playing on records by Miles, Joe Henderson, Freddie Hubbard, Miroslav Vitous, Alice Coltrane, and Keith Jarrett (I'm not a fan of Jarrett but I know other folks are). There's a few straight-ahead jazz albums too that are dope with Bill Evans (there was only one recorded live album until some unreleased material from the Evans-Gomez-Dejohnette trio was put out last year and this year) and a more recent 2004 album, The Life of Song, with Geri Allen (RIP).

I discover new DeJohnette shit every now and then. I recently just found a string of late '60s Charles LLoyd-led records with DeJohnette on drums and Keith Jarrett on piano...some boundary pushing hard bop with beginning elements of free/fusion. So, I been playing those records on my iPod as of late.

He's my favorite jazz drummer of all time, if that hasn't come across to y'all yet. Does he get mentioned in conversations on Tony Williams or Elvin Jones? I don't think he does, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know the answer. But it seems like the heights of his career came when playing fusion, so the critics haven't or don't talk about him the way they do Williams or Jones. A shame if my suspicions are true.

You could start us off though.

He is definitely a great drummer. Don’t know if I would put him even with Williams or Jones, but I could put him right under them. Maybe with Roach or Haynes and a step above Ali and Cobham.

I completely forgot to post actual music while I was rambling like a fool. I can't find any In Movement stuff online to post. ECM must've got that shit on lock, so I'm including some live shows with the Garrison/Coltrane trio.

Untitled (full album, and might be my favorite of his)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl45kHnZOF8

Picture 1 (check all them out Picture 2, 3 etc. from almost purely percussion LP Pictures)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2oPnk8AEJY

DeJohnette Trio + Tomoki Sanders live (apparently son of Pharoah Sanders)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KZzUjnftmY

Wise live (damn Ravi look like Herbie Hancock tho lol)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c4OgOb7S80

Miles Davis - Funky Tonk (from Live-Evil)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW3T0dD35PY

Miles Davis - Lonely Fire (DeJohnette and Cobham are both listed on drums)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svgEQnlHt8Y

Joe Henderson - Power to the People
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxQ_Qi8zsQ

Freddie Hubbard - Straight Life (a 17+ min classic)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4xwNHUyz1Q

One for Eric (a Mingus cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QG6DA9Y8QI

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jkOXswBHkyk

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=67aTJ-1VBN4

60s and early 70s DeJohnette is def one of my favorites from that era. He sounded hungry back then.

Directions

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MVCUBVBPxC8


Sorcery

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nembUmcNa5I


All the tracks from the album Oneness:

Welcome Blessing
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=47nsvCRv5N4

Free Above Sea
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2ENm80dxYAs

Priestesses Of The Mist
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VqkvmfEuykM

Jack In
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=teVS68WQjUo

From The Heart/C.M.A.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=weFLmkADUB0

https://open.spotify.com/album/1g3decTTK8jXYfIETDjYK4?si=GH3g7ofvToKQnqHJ-7u3Kw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvBEFAWzdcA

so much good music in this poast had to throw this one in... glad to see lot's of Art Ensemble of Chicago in here too.. they pwn this.

https://intlanthem.bandcamp.com/album/fly-or-die

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9fwtNs7zzWE

Jimi and John

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kB8YCWbv6k4

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xWsIG5sNq1Q

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qNAV77bCz8g&list=PLxpdvj3O2trgkuePihwVBDSBkc6mR7Kmf&index=42&t=0s

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HwtNAuZg0Og&list=PLxpdvj3O2trgkuePihwVBDSBkc6mR7Kmf&index=159

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-gQ7DMaNHu4&index=84&list=PLxpdvj3O2trgkuePihwVBDSBkc6mR7Kmf

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1tR-3iudGGY&index=89&list=PLxpdvj3O2trgkuePihwVBDSBkc6mR7Kmf

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B2E7K6ZUWZM&index=137&list=PLxpdvj3O2trgkuePihwVBDSBkc6mR7Kmf

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XI_pTjVGeyM&index=59&list=PLxpdvj3O2trgkuePihwVBDSBkc6mR7Kmf

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ146zJJY7o&index=54&list=PLxpdvj3O2trgkuePihwVBDSBkc6mR7Kmf

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CBH5R15bYqw&index=64&list=PLxpdvj3O2trgkuePihwVBDSBkc6mR7Kmf

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsXXpLh52PfOV8y1MPZZhpB3ggTwseRSs

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHlcpNxyojhFStR2pUzMsxZmcYE_OTu2r

Volumes 1, 2, and 3

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JFYh2BW722Y

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa4JhIxEpctVbmmRTNmj47AUuOuPim_sR

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CkOcb6NDuIs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jBy_eVfox0w

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jBy_eVfox0w

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ydc9c9bCEFU

https://intlanthem.bandcamp.com/album/irreversible-entanglements

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-aGvENy88y0

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BRPq8zCBhCI

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-XR3v9OvWJ0

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qezXWJ_Lwss