first going the path of "following a formula" and eventually having your musical "senses" take over and creating "worthwhile" music

or...

the pathway of "doing lot's of thing 'wrong'" and eventually having your musical senses take over to start "correcting" wrong "tendencies" with musically "pleasing" tendencies so the music become "worthwhile" that way.


Bands who do pop-punk, or hard-rock, or country, or "mainstream jazz" are known to be big on following formulas and that is why there seems to be a lack of "vitality" in those styles (even though some should say the musicians in those styles should have "something musical" in them that makes the music "worthwhile" even though they are mainly following formulas).

With indie-rock and some forms of "edgy-er" jazz, many of the musicians in those styles value "doing things wrong" sometimes and that seems to be why those styles seem to develop and listeners perceive those styles have "vitality."

The composer Chopin once wrote that the only correct way to making simple music is to first go through the phase of being able to make complex music. It seems that Chopin felt that once a musician was "able" to "work with" complexity THEN that musician could start to do "simple" things that were really worthwhile.

So...

I guess many think "beginning" musicians have to start on a level of "following formulas" and doing simple things before they get into doing complex things (but most listeners know many musicians like to stay on the level of doing simple/formula things)

but...

there are musicians who start off doing "wrong" things first and then develop a way that has validity.

I'm sure there are some teaching methods where learning basics and learning to go off-track from the basics are taught at the same time.

The keyboardist Keith Jarrett was taught with a certain extensive musical foundation but by the time Keith went to the Berkeley school of music, Keith kept clashing with teachers because Keith didn't want to always follow musical rules in his assignments. So there was a "mixture" there.