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2986090, Favorite Kanye album excluding LR
Posted by go mack, Wed Dec-31-69 07:00 PM
Figure Late Registration would receive majority of votes and thought this would spread it out a little more. Decided on Watch the Throne over 808's in this poll.

Poll question: Favorite Kanye album excluding LR

Poll result (42 votes)
College Dropout (5 votes)Vote
Graduation (11 votes)Vote
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (22 votes)Vote
Yeezus (4 votes)Vote
Watch the Throne (0 votes)Vote
Life of Pablo (0 votes)Vote

  

2986092, Graduation is my favorite with or without LR on the list.
Posted by Brew, Mon Mar-20-17 09:02 AM
Always felt like that was his peak and prime, the one time he nailed the delicate balance of his ego and his modesty, the latter of which of course he ditched altogether shortly thereafter.

I also liked the brevity, which I think made Graduation his most cohesive effort to date.
2986094, Graduation....SO damn good
Posted by Dstl1, Mon Mar-20-17 09:17 AM
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2986099, Well give it a vote then !
Posted by Brew, Mon Mar-20-17 09:52 AM
2986114, lol...done. my bad
Posted by Dstl1, Mon Mar-20-17 10:34 AM
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2986095, Toss up between Graduation and MBDTF
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Mon Mar-20-17 09:19 AM
2986116, MBDTF has grown on me as time has gone on but ...
Posted by Brew, Mon Mar-20-17 10:42 AM
I still feel like it's significantly overrated. I think I like the story of how the album was created ("Rap Camp") way more than I like the actual finished product.

It marks the first time, to that point, that a Kanye album felt disjointed and didn't have a central vibe or theme tying the whole project together. It was a collection of songs rather than a cohesive unit, IMO. And that includes 808s, which I loathe. But 808s at least had a cohesive vibe to it, which was kind of a trademark of those early Kanye albums.

And we all know what's transpired since then, that being that his projects have been almost bipolar in nature (whether you love them or hate them, it's true) so I guess this album kind of marks the start of that trend in how Kanye albums sound. So maybe that's why I'm more sour on that project than a lot of others seem to be.
2986453, I have literally never read this opinion before.
Posted by Nodima, Fri Mar-24-17 09:29 AM

>It marks the first time, to that point, that a Kanye album
>felt disjointed and didn't have a central vibe or theme tying
>the whole project together. It was a collection of songs
>rather than a cohesive unit, IMO.

I can't imagine how someone could listen to that record and come to that conclusion. Damn.

~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
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2986461, Really ? I feel like it's obvious.
Posted by Brew, Fri Mar-24-17 11:11 AM
Maybe I'm overstating the case by calling it "just a collection of songs." That has more of a negative connotation than I'm trying to convey here.

But all I'm saying is:

College Dropout - soul/chipmunk samples
Late Registration - orchestral beats/Jon Brion
Graduation - stadium sound/synths/808s
808s - ...808s/autotune

MBDTF didn't have that central production theme in my opinion. So Appalled, Runaway, Monster ... those are three of the most different sounding songs musically I can think of contained in one album.

That's not to say it's a bad album necessarily. Just saying that was the first time I ever listened to a Kanye album front to back and felt like I was listening to a collection of really good songs rather than a cohesive unit/album.
2986108, fuckin ridiculous
Posted by j., Mon Mar-20-17 10:24 AM
how his output post MBDTF has been brick after brick
2986109, Kim K effect.
Posted by Brew, Mon Mar-20-17 10:27 AM
2986115, RE: fuckin ridiculous
Posted by go mack, Mon Mar-20-17 10:38 AM
I like Watch the Throne but didn't care for Yeezus or Life of Pablo at all, latter slightly better. A lot of people do love Yeezus tho, but its nearly unlistenable to me.

This is probably my ranking, the bottom 3 all albums I never go back to tho:

1. Late Registration
2. MBDTF
3. Graduation
4. College Dropout
5. Watch the Throne
6. Life of Pablo
7. Yeezus
8. 808s and Heartbreak
2986142, they're like children. too hard to pick. it's easier to just say which ones i think
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Mar-20-17 12:55 PM
are better.

but i know the words to every yeezy album.
2986177, Graduation
Posted by beatnik, Mon Mar-20-17 07:00 PM
I always liked how it was the end of the school theme, and it was more of a life soundtrack based on when it dropped. still can't get into 808's or Yeezus, MBDTF is dope, CD can sound dated sometimes, but Graduation holds up for me.
2986184, Graduation
Posted by makaveli, Mon Mar-20-17 08:50 PM
2986272, 808s
Posted by CaptNish, Tue Mar-21-17 06:00 PM
2986277, College Dropout, LR, then Graduation
Posted by DJR, Tue Mar-21-17 07:24 PM
Then MBDTF, Watch the Throne, Life of Pablo, 808's, then Yeezus.

2986291, MBDTF is his magnum opus
Posted by hardware, Tue Mar-21-17 10:49 PM
2986315, ^^^
Posted by BigReg, Wed Mar-22-17 09:04 AM
2986318, Lol. Thinking LR would win in a landslide
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Wed Mar-22-17 09:39 AM
I don't think there is a clear ranking among Kanye fans.

One set says his old stuff is corny and his post Yeezus years are where it's at.

There are those who think he's made nothing buy garbage post LR.

Others think 808s is God's gift to the earth.

Ye probably has the most polarizing catalog
2986327, Im currently relistening to his discography
Posted by go mack, Wed Mar-22-17 12:04 PM
I'm on Graduation now and enjoying it more, not sure if its due to the voting or not. lol I was going to skip 808s but damn, maybe I will give it one more spin. Im just not a fan of his singing autotune so doubt will like it any more, guess can appreciate the production maybe..
2986337, here's my rankings
Posted by Playa_Politician, Wed Mar-22-17 02:40 PM
1. LR
2. MBDTF
3. Graduation
4. CD
5. 808's
6. Yeezus
7. TLOP
8. WTT

I slept on MBDTF, it was the first Kanye album i didn't buy when it dropped. don't think i heard it entirely up until a few years ago. After several revisits i can firmly put it at #2.

I really like 808's, i can understand the hate against it and normally i hate the auto-tune sound but it might because i like Kanye and i feel he made it work. I think the video of him performing Pinocchio live with the pharcyde bit before it is what got me to listen to this album with a different mindset.

TLOP in the couple listens i've given it sounds like a confused mess. there's some highs on there tho, and some low lows lyrically some even on the same track.

WTT was good from what i remember, gave it two listens and never went back, the singles were bangers tho.
2986397, Most overrated discography in hip-hop
Posted by Anonymous, Thu Mar-23-17 01:13 PM
2986404, agreed....he started out 3-3 IMO, but he's like 1 for his last 5
Posted by DJR, Thu Mar-23-17 03:52 PM
And Yeezus was one of the worst albums I've ever heard.
2986405, The thing for me is that
Posted by Anonymous, Thu Mar-23-17 04:24 PM
I don't even want to listen to his first 3 any more. All of his albums have aged terribly to me.
2986470, There is an issue with how his albums age
Posted by 13Rose, Fri Mar-24-17 02:35 PM
Not sure why they age the way they do.
2986403, My order:
Posted by Oak27, Thu Mar-23-17 03:35 PM
The College Dropout
MBDTF
Graduation
Late Registration
Watch The Throne
Yeezus
808s & Heartbreak
The Life of Pablo
2986452, MBDTF is one of the great albums, period.
Posted by Nodima, Fri Mar-24-17 09:27 AM
but I get why one might think this board would skew LR.


1. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy: 9.72
2. Late Registration: 8.93
3. The College Dropout: 8.65
4. Watch the Throne: 8.31
(5. Be: 8.00)
6. The Life of Pablo: 7.96
7. Graduation: 7.95
8. Yeezus: 7.79
(9. Cruel Summer: 6.73)
(10. Finding Forever: 5.68)
(11. 808s & Heartbreaks: 3.88)

I might like 808s more now that I'm older, less tied to an anti-autotune agenda than often finding artistic virtue in it and have built attachments to a couple songs outside of the album like "Robocop". I have very, very dark memories of "Amazing", "Pinnochio Story" and "Say You WIll" though.

As for the rest, my lightning round thoughts are Kanye became less of a rap performer post-MBDTF but he creates very unique records and he's consistently hilarious and more interesting than 99% of rappers in the game. I definitely listened to TLoP more than any other record released last year alongside ANTI, Malibu and Lead Poison. I still think he's a great artist, but you have to wade through some clumsiness on basically a song to song basis at this point which is a bit of a bummer considering how fire MBDTF/WTT was.

~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz