Like on paper it's everything you are suppose to be into, but for some reason you can't get into it.


For me it's a lot of Neo-Soul Music.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

On paper I should like him but just can't get into his music.

you started with at least naming 1 neo-soul album you're "supposed" to like, but you just don't.


why not?

Rahsaan Patterson - Rahsaan Patterson
Donnie - The Colored Section
India.Arie - Voyage to India
Van Hunt: Van Hunt

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

...but I really only think D'angelo, Bilal, Erykah and maybe Maxwell and Amel Larrieux are neo-soul (and I'm iffy about Maxwell and Amel Larrieux).


If I broadened my scope to those artists, I'd probably feel the same way.

shocked at how I've been ignoring so many artists.

I do that with funk too.


edit: I know Saadiq produced lot's of neo-soul classics...but what Saadiq does for himself, especially "Stone rollin'"....I wouldn't call neo-soul.


Neo-soul has to have a vibe....India.Irie rarely has a vibe to me.

I don't mind Killer Mike but he bores me, & El-P I liked when he was with Company Flow but never liked his solo albums or production afterwards.

J Cole:

He just bores me to fucking tears. In theory, he's everything I've always desired in an MC or hip-hop artist. He is potent lyrically, spits introspective rhymes, is socially conscious, does most of his own work (rapping and producing) and well, is soulful, sticks to the original hip-hop script of just "beats and rhymes, what else do you need ?"...but his music just never, ever reels me in. I want to like it so much but I just can't. It just comes off so cookie-cutter for some reason.


To Pimp a Butterfly:

This one is even more frustrating. I love Kendrick, think he's mega talented on the mic. Super, super, super lyrical. It's a kind of concept album (I love those when fully fleshed out and high quality). It's topical. It's socially conscious. It's a west-coast album. To further that point, he incorporated TONS of funk into this album, even including George Clinton (I'm a huge p-funk and subsequently, g-funk guy. HUGE). The album touches on a ton of civil rights and human rights issues which I'm always a champion for.

But I just can't get into it. It's grating to listen to. Again, can't really explain it cause all the elements are there, and I love Kendrick in general, and I've tried so many times. I just don't like it. I MUCH prefer GKMC.

Couldn't put it any better on either of these

>J Cole:
>
>He just bores me to fucking tears. In theory, he's everything
>I've always desired in an MC or hip-hop artist. He is potent
>lyrically, spits introspective rhymes, is socially conscious,
>does most of his own work (rapping and producing) and well, is
>soulful, sticks to the original hip-hop script of just "beats
>and rhymes, what else do you need ?"...but his music just
>never, ever reels me in. I want to like it so much but I just
>can't. It just comes off so cookie-cutter for some reason.
>
>
>To Pimp a Butterfly:
>
>This one is even more frustrating. I love Kendrick, think he's
>mega talented on the mic. Super, super, super lyrical. It's a
>kind of concept album (I love those when fully fleshed out and
>high quality). It's topical. It's socially conscious. It's a
>west-coast album. To further that point, he incorporated TONS
>of funk into this album, even including George Clinton (I'm a
>huge p-funk and subsequently, g-funk guy. HUGE). The album
>touches on a ton of civil rights and human rights issues which
>I'm always a champion for.
>
>But I just can't get into it. It's grating to listen to.
>Again, can't really explain it cause all the elements are
>there, and I love Kendrick in general, and I've tried so many
>times. I just don't like it. I MUCH prefer GKMC.

>but I dissent on Kendrick n/m

And that's what makes it even more frustrating. So many, in fact a vast majority, of my hip-hop friends would disagree with me on TPAB as well. I don't know what it is.

for the Harvard hip-hop Hall of Fame or whatever the fuck it is ! Alongside Low End Theory, Miseducation and Illmatic. LIKE WHAT. How is TPAB gonna sit alongside THOSE ALBUMS ? In the first submission ? Good lord. I must be missing something. Everything maybe.

...I mean I really wanna like'eem, but I can't. Snooze. Dot on the other hand, dropped probably the best album hip hop album I've heard, to date.

It is a very dense listen that I believe takes a good amount of time to really absorb.

Dense is absolutely the right word to describe it. Dense as fuck. It's a difficult listen. A lot of others have said they finally "got" it after several listens as well. I kept trying but I just can't vibe with it. I am all for dark themes and brooding beats, but I still need to be able to enjoy the music in the end. There's plenty of politically driven albums and thematically dark albums that still groove a little bit. This one just (for the most part) didn't. Couple songs here and there but for the most part I find it to be a chore to listen to.

maybe it's not for you to 'vibe' to.

(1) I am, primarily (and obviously) a fan of urban music and have been my entire life so I don't really think this applies to me and (2) I've "vibed" to this exact style of music and lyrical content several times in the past and even prefer both the type of production and content to others (hence why I responded with *this* album in *this* post) so again, I don't really think this applies at all.

In other words maybe it wasn't "meant" for me but that's never stopped me from enjoying nor appreciating and even PREFERRING this exact kind of music in the past, so

Anyway I can't tell if you are being an asshole or not but I responded cordially anyway.

You're white. I don't expect you to get it. I like GKMC more that TPAB so I can definitely see how a white person wouldnt rock to it. The message is prolly bigger than the music on this album.

... so I'm not offended at all. But like I said I've listened to and love several albums of this ilk. Many of them are even among my favorite albums of all time. So I dunno. Maybe this album is "blacker" than those before it ? Otherwise I don't really get your point. I mean none of those albums are "meant" for me theoretically but that hasn't prevented me from loving it in the past.

All that said I'm not sure what you mean by your third sentence about GKMC/TPAB.

>You're white. I don't expect you to get it. I like GKMC more
>that TPAB so I can definitely see how a white person wouldnt
>rock to it. The message is prolly bigger than the music on
>this album.

not feelin any of J Cole. Believe me, I have tried.

TPAB - is my least favorite Kendrick album. That said, I was riding for kendrick hard during the mixtape days and I love GKMC. I think TBAP is worth it's hype, it's not a re-listen on loop type of album for me.


werd.

what'd others on this thread think of "neighbors"? I'm sure I'm not the only one who listened to the latest album in the spirit of "trying"

I personally liked it a lot. wondering if that's because I'm starting to "get it", or if it's just an objectively much better track than the other work he's put out (leaning towards the latter)

It didn't grab me initially, and I haven't really played it since.

J. Cole....I bought his first album when it dropped, along with Phonte's solo(which I love). It was ok. I look at it like I look at a Fabolous album. And actually all the Soul Tapes and Summertime Shootouts are dope as hell and way better, but that's another point.

I downloaded the Friday Night Lights, and his more recent albums. He's ok. Doesn't move me much.

as for TPAB i just find it totally uninteresting. i heard it. i wasn't moved. and i have no interest in revisiting it.

But I remember everybody else, especially the girls, loving it to death.

Actually, all of the second act Wu-Tang affiliated albums.

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I tried & tried but couldn't get into these cats at all. Even peeped Earl's live show and it only entrenched my opinion.

werd.

I gave all that Odd Future stuff a listen.



I'm good.

at rapping? That guy still deserves a slap.

I've tried, and appreciate the history, the lyrical dexterity, some of the content...but try as I might I can't get into him. I enjoy Madvillainy but that's as much for Madlib as anything

Yep, tried many times and just couldn't ever get into his shit.

I bought the "DangerDoom" album, and got laughed out of the room. Ironically, I liked it. I guess it wasn't cool enough for the Stans.


I have a bunch of the other ones ( my boy sent me a Doom Care Package), but I haven't played them yet.

I just don't get it. He's alright but I don't get all the hype.

I've come to the conclusion that it's me. I'm missing something.

I hear all of the raving and I like that he isn't doing the typical 808 based R&B but for some reason, it ain't catching me.


Since 1976

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I've watched it a bunch of times.

the album didn't really click with me at first but over the months i'd catch myself singing the Paak parts in my head. went back to listen and i really like that album now (great album to drive to playing loud as fuck).

Respect them all in different ways but they just have never done it for me. Big Boi with Dre is dope but solo? Nah.

kweli after train of thought
mos after bobs
solo big boi

1. J Cole. I did like the Forest Hills 2014 album, but everything before or after is just boring to me.

2. pre-Tetsuo Lupe. Tetsuo & Youth was legit one of the best three albums of 2015. But before that he was very much in the camp of rappers that I felt I should like a lot more than I did. Food & Liquor was decent. The Cool had its moments, but really never stuck with me. But everything after that and before Tetsuo was pretty forgettable. Tetsuo earned him a lot of goodwill tho.

3. Childish Gambino. Never felt like I **should** like his early straight hip-hop albums, but man, a lot of people that I respect are fawning over the "Awaken My Love" album, and I'm really "meh" on it. Yeah, I get he's inspired by Funkadelic and Bootsy and all those other groups I like, but the execution is lacking. It's a shame, because Glover is a brilliant comedic mind and "Atlanta" is a revelation of a TV series, but his music leaves me completely cold.

4. Sorta Kendrick. I just don't feel TPAB or GKMC are absolutely brilliant as everyone else. To hear folks tell it, he's already the best rapper of all time and his albums belong in the Smithsonian. For, they're cool enough, but I still hate the funny voices and the screaming.

5. Earl Sweatshirt's "I Don't Like Shit..." album. Loved the "Earl" debut album. Loved "Doris." "I Don't Shit..." was a downer that I've barely revisted since the first initial listen.

I like his verses on other projects, I generally think he's dope...started Blankface LP like 3 different times...it just won't hold me.

I basically don't like none of those kats, either their voices annoy me, they can't rap/sing, not good enough for my standards, or they are overhyped by the masses.

Anyway, say what you want, it's enough good artists out there were I feel there's no need to like so artists cause others do or they don't make music that I feel, if I gave them a shot and didn't like what I heard then that's good enough for me to pass on them.

I like the era but I just will probably check out a track here and there from her as opposed to really listening to her - because my reaction to her when I listen usually isn't good.

Some great songs but not nearly the masterpiece "Black On Both Sides" turned out to be (top 10 for me).

The Beatles - I liked Rubber Soul and The White Album, but their early stuff doesn't grab me at all.

The Rolling Stones - I'm sure they were cutting edge at their time, but I'd simply rather listen to the old Blues artists they were covering.

India.Arie - She's conscious and bohemian (if I'm using that correctly) but she's also really earnest which kind of distracts me. I shouldn't feel that way because I'm an earnest guy, but I like more of an edge or fierceness in the music I listen to.

Beyonce - Outside of a couple of singles, I haven't gotten into her music. I listened to IV once, but by and large I can't get into her music.

J.Cole - I forget the poster who mentioned him, but like you, I dig his persona, style, and content. But I don't know if it's because I'm older and I'm not discovering him authentically in the way that many kids are, but he isn't *that dude* to me like Kendrick is.

The Purple Tape - I know folks everywhere, especially on here swears by this album, but it's just 'good' to me. What I think about The Chronic - that it is a definitive classic in every sense of the word - is what I think a lot of hip-hop heads think about OBFCL.


J Dilla - He's technically proficient, I get that. But I've only heard a couple of beats by him that I was really feeling. I really like the music of The Roots and Common and Tribe, all are acts Dilla worked with, but he just doesn't do it for me.

Atoms for Peace - I like Radiohead and The Chili Peppers are okay, but that group's quality falls short. I always thought of Thom as the leader of Radiohead and that Radiohead were just playing Thom's songs, but there's obviously a quality that the other members that balances Thom's ideas.

Run the Jewels - For that matter, all of the Def Jux stuff never did it for me. Cold Vein was pretty dope, and I appreciate El-P's production but I've never kirked out to one of his beats.

or care to check for his music.

MOP and Freddie Fox....I mean a few tracks here and there, but just can't do it for a whole LP...

I'm not sure that MOP or Freddie Foxx are meant to be listened to a whole album at a time.

Their music is like whisky or hot sauce....you've got to pace yourself...

He's that soul act that the mostly over 35 crowd can't wait to see live or grab his new album. It's not an overt "stannish" type of love people have for him, but more of a "falling for his crap" type of deal. The dude is repetitive, and just not all that talented to me. You got one Kem album, you got em all.

My boy says the same about Dwele, but I don't share that sentiment.

I will not listen to that poor knock off.

Nordstrom and Von Maur background music....aspirations out of the elevator

I just don't fuckin get it. There's a few dope posse cuts but that's it. To be honest I think most of the actual Wu Tang cuts are boring as hell.

Some of the solo stuff is dope. Early Raekwon. Ghostface. Early Method Man. But other than that it's absolutely average shit. I know I know. Wu Tang is about the "experience" and the mythology and all that shit. But I'm just talking music.

BTW Liquid Swords is one of the best albums (Any genre) of all time so I would hold that up if I absolutely had to. But man outside of this and what I listed above. Ouch.

>I just don't fuckin get it. There's a few dope posse cuts
>but that's it. To be honest I think most of the actual Wu
>Tang cuts are boring as hell.
>
>Some of the solo stuff is dope. Early Raekwon. Ghostface.
>Early Method Man. But other than that it's absolutely average
>shit. I know I know. Wu Tang is about the "experience" and
>the mythology and all that shit. But I'm just talking music.
>
>BTW Liquid Swords is one of the best albums (Any genre) of all
>time so I would hold that up if I absolutely had to. But man
>outside of this and what I listed above. Ouch.


Your opinion ain't *that* different than most people who like Wu-Tang, except you apparently don't like the first 2 group albums.

The cult of Wu is pretty much based around the first 2 group albums and the early solo stuff (which you mentioned liking). Liquid Swords, OB4CL, Iron Man, Tical, Supreme Clientele, the first ODB album, etc.

'The W' and 'Iron Flag' got some joints but are pretty inconsistent, and like 90% of people who consider themselves Wu-Tang fans still aren't riding *too* hard for '8 Diagrams' or 'A Better Tomorrow' or a lot of the later solo stuff, save for Ghost, most people fuck with more of his later work. Obviously there are tracks here and there, and albms that are exceptions, but really that's the bulk of it. So yeah... you come around on "Enter the Wu-Tang" and "Forever" and you're right there with most people.

I always like to compare Pete Rock & CL to Gangstarr, just so I can illustrate the problem I had with Pete & CL. Yeah CL has that smooth flow that blends with the beats, but I'm not sure if anyone ever knew, or cared what CL was actually saying.

People gave Guru so much shit in his later years, but he was a legend in his own right. CL Smooth is not. Guru has memorable verses, CL Smooth does not. Guru was able to rap about different topics, and keep you engaged for an entire song. CL was just throwing words together. Guru was able to make decent music without Primo. He wouldn't gotten a deal to do Jazzmatazz projects if he wasn't a somebody WITHOUT Primo. After CL stopped getting PR beats, he went right back to dat barbershop.

Black Thought also has that issue of blending into the beat too much that CL does. But guess what? If you pay attention to what Thought is saying, he's always giving you A+ well written material.

Listen to this bullshit. Can you imagine if a dope mcee was given a track like THIS? These rhymes are garbage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN9DIfMkmU8

Maybe Pete should have rapped more, maybe CL should have chosen different types of beats. He didn't seem to like Pete's bouncier flavors.

Interesting take...I love Pete and CL as a group, but I get it. I think a lot of what you speak to can be chalked up to that time period, which included many more, for lack of better term, playful type MC's who were just rhyming to rhyme slick words...cats like Das Efx, Nice and Smooth, and Lords of the Underground are some other examples...

>Interesting take...I love Pete and CL as a group, but I get
>it. I think a lot of what you speak to can be chalked up to
>that time period, which included many more, for lack of better
>term, playful type MC's who were just rhyming to rhyme slick
>words...cats like Das Efx, Nice and Smooth, and Lords of the
>Underground are some other examples...

serious all the time, his body language was from the Rakim school. So he was spitting playful raps, but his demeanor didn't match that at all.
And why the bounciest track on "Mecca and the Soul Brother" the Pete Rock solo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucOIhdHp9yM

CL should have tried his hand at some of Pete's bouncier tracks. He'd be more memorable if all his verses didn't so damn similar.

But it worked for what it was, and I'd cop another project they do.

That said, GangStarr > Pete & CL, but that's another topic for another day

his shit was soo complex that it went over my head.


I do think though that appreciating CL Smooth really requires being from the time period and would be hard to appreciate looking back.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I enjoyed them, but a lot of what they said was nonsensical. That said...if PR and CL got back together today...I'd cop anything they put out.

>if PR and CL got back together today...I'd cop
>anything they put out.


in a heartbeat.

And from what I get, it's real this time.

Sounds promising.

Can't wait.

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I don't know how Pete is cool with getting back with him. Especially since Pete is actually the main draw.

.

CL said in an interview that many of his one-off appearances on PR projects were put out by Pete without CL's input or permission. He made it sound like they were older songs that Pete would use on his albums juz cuz he made the beat so they were his.

with a dude shot to death in a barber chair as cover art

C.L. Smooth is lyrical, not on some Nas or Rakim level but he was really spitting just with a smooth flow, and with Pete's beats it wasn't like he was trying to be some hard rock emcee over Pete's jazzy/soulful beats.

C.L. Smooth is one of those kats most haven't heard his material outside of Pete's sound, he has rhymes that make sense, he doesn't use simple words, he has wordplay just comes off like it's braggadocios girl rhymes which is what Slum Village did a ton of.

I think he fell victim to having a producer who out shined his performance but they both fit together like a glove though.

the sake of riddling. "American Me" album was REALLY good. In fact, I need to dust that joint off.

>C.L. Smooth is lyrical, not on some Nas or Rakim level but he
>was really spitting just with a smooth flow, and with Pete's
>beats it wasn't like he was trying to be some hard rock emcee
>over Pete's jazzy/soulful beats.
>
>C.L. Smooth is one of those kats most haven't heard his
>material outside of Pete's sound, he has rhymes that make
>sense, he doesn't use simple words, he has wordplay just comes
>off like it's braggadocios girl rhymes which is what Slum
>Village did a ton of.
>
>I think he fell victim to having a producer who out shined his
>performance but they both fit together like a glove though.
>

lol dude had that one song with Greg Osby which was nice, other than that he didn't have any material without Pete until "American Me".

If y'all want to say he has a groovy flow, that's fine. But nobody recites his lyrics. Personally I know more Pete Rock verses than CL's.

>lol dude had that one song with Greg Osby which was nice,
>other than that he didn't have any material without Pete until
>"American Me".

Fair enough. Not to many will argue against that.


>
>If y'all want to say he has a groovy flow, that's fine. But
>nobody recites his lyrics.

DEFINITELY not true. Plenty of people would rank CL amongst the best of that era.

Personally I know more Pete Rock
>verses than CL's.

Like I said, this might be more about you than CL. Just because you know more of Pete's lines ( which are quite easy to memorize), that doesn't mean CL wasn't dope. That's not a very good litmus test.

>
>>lol dude had that one song with Greg Osby which was nice,
>>other than that he didn't have any material without Pete
>until
>>"American Me".
>
>Fair enough. Not to many will argue against that.
>
>
>>
>>If y'all want to say he has a groovy flow, that's fine. But
>>nobody recites his lyrics.
>
>DEFINITELY not true. Plenty of people would rank CL amongst
>the best of that era.
>
>Personally I know more Pete Rock
>>verses than CL's.
>
>Like I said, this might be more about you than CL. Just
>because you know more of Pete's lines ( which are quite easy
>to memorize), that doesn't mean CL wasn't dope. That's not a
>very good litmus test.

He wasn't top 20 in NY/NJ in 1991-1995.

Buckshot
Busta Rhymes
Chubb Rock
Diamond D (yes Diamond is a better rapper than CL)
Dres
Guru
GZA
Heavy D
Kool G Rap
Kool Keith
KRS
Large Professor
LL Cool J
Lord Finesse
Masta Ace
Method Man
Pharoahe Monche
Pos or Dove or both
Positive K
Puba
Rakim
Redman
Sticky Fingaz
Tragedy the Intelligent Hoodlum
Treach
Q-Tip
Queen Latifah
Wise Intelligent

lol almost got to 30. Take 10 off the list and he's still not top 15 in NY/NJ.

Let me take you on journey to carmel city, where CL's god and ladies gotta hit me, ballin on the set, now baby what's a matter, no this not hot sex on a platter, ... enter my flow so we can hit this show, something rugged, cause the ladies got to love it.


was carmel city even a singe. I mean, I am pretty sure most people can recite TROY... even lots of lovin.


werd.

>
>Listen to this bullshit. Can you imagine if a dope mcee was
>given a track like THIS? These rhymes are garbage.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN9DIfMkmU8


I'd NEVER say CL's rhymes are garbage, that's actually one of my favorite PR&CL cuts right there.

>
>Maybe Pete should have rapped more, maybe CL should have
>chosen different types of beats. He didn't seem to like
>Pete's bouncier flavors.

You're the ONLY person I've ever heard say that they'd rather hear Pete Rock over CL. Pete Rock is uh...not a great rapper. He's one of the best producers ever, but as an MC? HELL no. ( and for the record, Grand Puba was writing a lot of Pete's rhymes on the "Mecca..." album).

>
>>
>>Listen to this bullshit. Can you imagine if a dope mcee was
>>given a track like THIS? These rhymes are garbage.
>>
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN9DIfMkmU8
>
>
>I'd NEVER say CL's rhymes are garbage, that's actually one of
>my favorite PR&CL cuts right there.
>
>>
>>Maybe Pete should have rapped more, maybe CL should have
>>chosen different types of beats. He didn't seem to like
>>Pete's bouncier flavors.
>
>You're the ONLY person I've ever heard say that they'd rather
>hear Pete Rock over CL. Pete Rock is uh...not a great rapper.
>He's one of the best producers ever, but as an MC? HELL no. (
>and for the record, Grand Puba was writing a lot of Pete's
>rhymes on the "Mecca..." album).

Pete had like 3 verses on the whole thing. Pete rapping "more" could be 5 verses. It could be 10. Something to break up the monotony.

Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg


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I know he's supposed to be the spokesperson for my generation, but all I hear is the progenitor of a lot of shitty music.


"I wasn't sure if I was lost or running away again. . ."

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2016/269401

I happen to like both of them a lot but I think they both made it cool for anyone to do what they did regardless how shitty the music they influenced was.

And check your inbox!

I'm struggling to think of people I like from here, past Killer Mike or T.I.. It's definitely not Migos, Awful Records, Mikonnen, Gucci, Jeezy, Future, etc.

after the crunk era. It's like they wanted nothing to do with the
dungeon era of musicality or lyrics.

Like, I thought a bar or a standard was being set as far as lyricism and musicality. It's like intentionally cooking with the worst ingredients possible.

I was in Atlanta when the guard was changing and they had a decision
to continue to set the bar or go full retard. We all know what was
chosen.

>Like, I thought a bar or a standard was being set as far as
>lyricism and musicality. It's like intentionally cooking with
>the worst ingredients possible.

play any Dungeon Family at all. Nothing. Not even Rosa Parks, which should have worked well at a party like that.

I did play some 90's tracks such as Back that azz up, even Drama "Left right left" but the Rosa Parks tracks don't go over as well with folks under 30. At the first few Grits in L.A., yea, the crowd would have been more hype to them, but I can just tell they wouldn't go hard for many of their tracks now.

I did play "Kryptonite" which was when Big Boi was trying to make a Crunk-type of song. Speaking of, Grits is really just focused on Crunk, even more than Trap, and then Twerkin type music.

I should love him in theory, but I can't get into him at all in practice.

I've never gotten into Springsteen either, but then again I've never really tried to dive into his shit too deeply. But he's like the biggest "Mount Rushmore of music" type dude that I've never explored.

I **have** tried and it was not worth the time.


"I wasn't sure if I was lost or running away again. . ."

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2016/269401

but I personally don't hear any swing in that music.

I was in high school during his "mixtape rise" and i never understood why it felt like my WHOLE school was really fucking with him. but i never got it. he was my 2nd least favorite member of hot boys and i hated his voice from jump, lol.

real dope artist just dont enjoy much of the music

Lame music.

Poor voice.

Uninteresting rhymes.

My first draw to 90's hip hop were the jazz themed/sampling artists, but the Jazzmatazz albums just didn't hit me like I thought it would do on paper

With that said it also took me a while to get used to Guru's flow on Gangstarr releases

i appreciate rakim from an intellectual standpoint but i don't like listening to any of his albums. same for run dmc, krs, bdk, etc. i tend to view those artists in the vein of chuck berry, scott joplin, or other proto-*genre* artists. i understand their contribution to the genre and their great influence but i still find the actual music to be uninteresting

the one exception is public enemy but that's only because i really like the instrumentals and can tune out chuck and flava's rudimentary and dated rapping. lyrically chuck's stuff is fine but the actual rapping kind of sucks

I didn't start really consuming and absorbing rap music until late '92/early '93. Rap from the 80s definitely sounds more dated, but some of it is still pretty incredible to listen to. You may not like the albums, but how can u deny Rakim, SLick Rick, or BDK's hits? Honestly, a song like Eric B for President or Check out My Melody goes as hard as any today. Or Doug E Fresh 'Keep Risin' to the Top.'

Anyway, have tried listening to Critical Beatdown lately? Or any of De La Soul, Jungle Brothers, ATCQ, or EPMD's early albums? All still hold up very well imo. And I say this as someone who's heavily biased toward 90s rap.

Always preachy, recent comments don't help, the bumrush of Prince Be

music does little for me

I like a few songs but I ain't into him like that.

Holy hell, it's not even a case of just "not getting it" for me, I genuinely **hate** everyone involved with Jane's Addiction.



"I wasn't sure if I was lost or running away again. . ."

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

https://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2017/332378

Cats swear by him, but he's just meh to me.

I won't say he's garbage, but he's not nearly as nice as cats hyped him up to be...wish him all the success though

That song is like fingernails on a chalkboard. It makes my skin crawl. I cannot stand it. If I hear it too many times within a short time (always in tv commercials) I turn my tv off.

Whoever made that comparison between him and J Cole are on point. Gave the new album a spin and its not bad. Just kinda boring. Him Cole need to do a project together.

On paper, I should stan for this dude.

But he bores me to tears. And is the preachy-est grown man rap I've ever heard.

That J Cole thread kind of blew my mind, too. I never made the connection before, but that comparison was spot on.

i just think the praise is way over the top.

He's like Bootsy in that regard. He's contributed to some transcendentally good stuff (TPAB, Cosmogramma) but his solo work is a bit too goofy and superfluous for me.

So floaty and happy and even corny at times. It'll be some dope licks and chords within each track, but overall it just rarely grabs me. But yea, he was amazing in what he did on TPAB, mainly because the other musicians were able to polish it and use his talent the right way.

dude obviously has the chops/ambition/ideas..and can execute them when it's coming from someone else given all the other shit he's played on.. but he needs someone to give his own stuff more focus. i was a little let down by Drunk (as a complete album i mean)

Like, you can tell the talent is there without doubt, but he just needs to have it channeled correctly.