Those are debut albums AFTER years of hard work, professional work in fact. Kendrick/Drake spent a couple of years on the mixtape circuit before those records, Eminem had indie releases and Ocean was already in the system as dude in a major label song writing camp.

>There's a difference between this turd and a raw debut project
>that hints at something fresh - Section 80, Nostalgia Ultra,
>Thank Me Later, Slim Shady LP etc.