production is solid

Desiigner - New English
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01. Intro
02. Caliber
03. Make It Out
04. Shooters
05. Monstas & Villains
06. Interlude 1
07. Talk Regardless
08. Roll Wit Me
09. Interlude 2
10. Da Day
11. Jet (feat. Pusha T)
12. Overnight
13. Zombie Walk (feat. King Savage)
14. Panda

in this day & age he could become huge

if he wasn't called a "rapper" people would not trip half as hard

additionally, I am definitely going to listen to the tape. I'm interested.

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I'm not going to be wishing poverty and struggle on someone, esp young and Black, because I don't like their expression.

>I'm not going to be wishing poverty and struggle on someone,
>esp young and Black, because I don't like

lol at thinking this dude would be a teacher or a fire fighter. actually, he'd be a shitty drug dealer, so i was giving him credit.

Derivative, but it sounds more inspired than anything Future's done this year *ducks*

Love him or hate him (im in the later category for the most part) you've got a 19 year old rapper who blew up on a demo song and we are expecting an A tier project out of him, lol.

One of the reasons I think that the ATL scene does so well is that there's a farm team built up around a few acts (primarily Gucci and his producers) that lets the acts hone their work over years.

This record isn't the worst ive heard...his future impression is decent. Theres also times where he's working on a more traditional NYC street voice (Make It Out) to break out from that shadow and the trap production is solid.

But it's a bit depressing how we've adapted to the pop hit cycle as hip-hop heads.

this kid isn't showing ANY sign of originality or vision. It's just dumb beats and grunts.

There's a difference between this turd and a raw debut project that hints at something fresh - Section 80, Nostalgia Ultra, Thank Me Later, Slim Shady LP etc.

Those are debut albums AFTER years of hard work, professional work in fact. Kendrick/Drake spent a couple of years on the mixtape circuit before those records, Eminem had indie releases and Ocean was already in the system as dude in a major label song writing camp.

>There's a difference between this turd and a raw debut project
>that hints at something fresh - Section 80, Nostalgia Ultra,
>Thank Me Later, Slim Shady LP etc.

Ye and president Push need to do they job

While this dude ain't somebody anybody is really going to cry for either way, its shocking how they just throw you out there.

It's possible, so there is precedent for expectations.

>It's possible, so there is precedent for expectations.

And he had a killers row of people behind the board of vets to help him craft Illmatic along with whatever other advise/guidance they could give him.

Desiigner or however you spell it probably isn't the best example to show latent talent but the idea remains how we expect our artists to come out the oven fully baked with a near classic.

He only had Tyler on the boards who was 17
at the time, I believe. Syd was engineering.
She was also really young.

knocking it out the park. Rakim was 18 or 19 when Paid in Full came out. LL Was 16/17 when Radio came out. We can't use age as an excuse for someone being terrible. Some people have it and some don't, some of those that don't can get better.

>some of those that don't can get better.

AGAIN, not saying this dude is the second coming of anybody, lol.

But its interesting how this kind of turnaround seems to be the norm.

strong point. this isn't even exclusive to Desiigner but he's a glaring example of it. artists are either toiling to break out of obscurity or having to go from A-Z publicly and quickly. tough out there.

You've got your acts that actually cultivate a fanbase/body of work, blow up, and the label comes to 'sign' you as if they are doing you a favor.

On the inverse you've got a sea of artists that could have been something but the label basically put em out there on their own to figure shit out. This reminds me of the Mr.Exquire read in rollingstone a few years back.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/mr-muthafuckin-exquires-music-biz-misadventures-20140620

Where obviously he didn't have as big a hit as Panda but def. had a buzz. While labels always sucked/were shady, it makes you wonder if twenty years ago there would have been at least some dudes there to help him cobble together some kind of project.

access/resources/privilege of having a team around them to help them in their development. that's never not happened with a success, that I can think of.

If you're not good at rapping, you're not.

We're not judging him as a person.

We're just saying he sucks.

very different that could end up working amazingly or could end up stalling in a month or three. it definitely doesn't suck to me. he's taking a chance that reminds me of Cudi 7-8 years ago, Thugger 2 years ago, etc.

but if he sucks to you, I can't change that.

and it sounds like a slapper

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