http://www.thefader.com/2016/06/04/freddie-gibbs-arrested-rape-charges

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

:(

"Following news of the arrest, Gibbs' management told Complex in a statement that "Freddie will be fighting the extradition request as these are nothing more than trumped up charges," while Gibbs' manager Ben Lambert shot out two tweets this morning, saying in no uncertain terms that his client is "100% innocent."


LOL - Like what else is @lambolambo going to say to public about his client. Perhaps his manager should have been aware of charges to begin with or the possibility of extradition and sorted out his "not-guilty" client before hand.



werd.

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It would be honest as hell, but funny nonetheless.

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amd raped them at Gibb's hotel room.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/4mj4x3/a_redditor_posting_about_freddie_gibbs_rape_4/


"I wasn't sure if I was lost or running away again. . ."

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2016/269401

zero cred to the poster named 'FappyHeet'...

If they really do know the girl(s), they believe their story....not a shocker.

Not much news.

What bugs me out is why would a celeb need to take anything when there's literally thousands just giving it away WILLINGLY.

He's certainly guilty of bad judgement at the least...

To what degree remains to be seen...

Rape is a horrible act, but false allegation of rape is even worse.

We'll see how it shakes out.

of course there's varying degrees of how bad it can be, but every human has some mental issue, whether minor or major. look at Cosby. why would he do that or have to, because he has a mental issue that's worse than most of us will ever experience.

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>Rape is a horrible act, but false allegation of rape is even
>worse.
>



"I wasn't sure if I was lost or running away again. . ."

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2016/269401

some people

Rape is horrible....it truly is...

Being falsely accused and unjustly prosecuted of rape (or anything else for that matter) is just as bad.

Both scenarios are INCREDIBLY fucked up, so I'll make a slight rephrase and say 'just as bad' instead of 'even moreso.'

I shouldn't have worded that to play one against the other....wasn't the intent.

Either case is terrible for the respective victim and I feel true empathy for them both.

That's not even in the slightest bit 'okay', man.

That's all I'm saying here....

Just like rape is horrible and is not okay
Just like murder is terrible and is not okay
Just like any other crime against another human being that you can think of is absolutely NOT okay.

IMO, criminal charges of equal amount should be immediately brought against anyone that falsely accuses another if/when it comes out they were knowingly/purposefully lying.

Interestingly enough, after hearing about that Stanford fuckers slap on the wrist, I happened to hear the story about Brian Banks for the first time.

Brian was fortunately exonerated of a false rape charge after 5 years of served prison time and 5 years of parole. 10 years gone due to a lie.... but how often does that occur where someone falsely accused *and convicted* of a major crime like rape, murder, etc. gets back the life they knew in some capacity?

It's still plenty of unfortunate people serving time for shit they didn't do. Whatever their case is, it's an absolute travesty of the justice system that it occurs.

Again...that's all I am saying here....

In my mind the evil that would drive a person to take/violate another person without consent and scar the mind and trust for the rest of the victims life, is the same evil that would tell a bold face lie on another person and have their entire life, reputation and livelihood as they knew it dashed away for whatever fucked up reason that person decided to make up and stick to that lie in the first place.

NO WHERE in my comments am I downplaying rape or rape victims AT ALL, and I want that to be CLEARLY understood....

For anyone that took it as such, my sincerest apologies as I did not mean it like that in the least bit.

And even with the ridiculous way you came at me, peace be unto you.

Done here.

"I wasn't sure if I was lost or running away again. . ."

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2016/269401

charged with heinous crimes. Leave Hollywood out of it because that gets too damn messy, and maybe by leaving Hollywood out of it you leave names like Mike and Ike out of it, but still...

there are enough stories of artists with decent followings fucking it up by being the terrible people they sing about. I remember when I was younger and into that somewhat pop-punk somewhat nu metal scene how weird it was the singer of Lostprophets was not only an accused but convicted rapist.

I love Freddie's music. I think I'll continue to love it. But it will be very weird to do so if all is found to be what it is. I can't even read about it right now.

Three years ago I worked or Conor Oberst when he was accused of rape and it was an entirely baseless accusation that brought a lot of stress on everyone but the rapist and the rapee because neither existed. These situations are never easy for the people that eat off another person's plate nor the people who just took a seat at the table.

I hope for this woman's sake she isn't embellishing and that she gets the justice she's seeking, but I hope for Freddie's sake there's some evidence that casts doubt on his guilt. What a weird position to be in.

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"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz

I
>remember when I was younger and into that somewhat pop-punk
>somewhat nu metal scene how weird it was the singer of
>Lostprophets was not only an accused but convicted rapist.

??? my friend, "convicted rapist" does not at all do justice to dude's actions:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Watkins_(Lostprophets)#Sexual_offences

esp if he's on that Cosby.

not listening to any of his shit until this is all sorted out though .

Yep, that includes piñata too you madlib junkies.

>Yep, that includes piñata too you madlib junkies.

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

I was under the impression Gibbs and Mablib have to link up and record Gibbs' vocals for that album; the instrumentals for Bandana are beats rejected by Kanye, no?

**edit**

Regardless, this puts Mablib in an interesting situation since Gibbs is his business partner and all.

I've paid to see him live twice but I haven't paid for any of his music, and my favorite music of his was released for free sans Piñata.


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http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz

...recorded BEFORE any incident took place.

Regardless, as of now, I'm just hoping it's not true, and holding firm to "innocent until proven guilty."

its gonna be real quiet up in y'alls cribs if you start throwing out all your CDs of artists who've done some foul ass shit

selling drugs, muggings, stick ups, that's your typical rapper foul shit. if true, this is more similar to South Park Mexican than your typical rapper.

How about Michael Jackson?
R. Kelly?
CeeLo?
How about Chuck Berry?
Tupac?

The list goes on...

Please explain

again, *I* dont care about it
but where does one draw the line if you're gonna have this kneejerk "WELP, DELETE GIBBS FROM MY ITUNES NOW" type reaction. its ridiculous

wow, just wow.

The punishment for attempted murder/murder is an obvious giveaway.

What's the difference?

Thought you were saying he raped somebody

attempted murder is NOT rape. Plus, it was actually understandable why Slick would be driven to that. Michael Jackson never raped, murdered, or molested anyone, so not sure why you brought up his name. If you've seen me bashing Maxxx over the years, you'd know i HATE Rapist Kelly.

>attempted murder is NOT rape.
no, its not. some would argue its worse. you're attempting to take a life. if you had been successful, thats it. theres no coming back from that.
i dont really have an opinion - they're both unimaginably awful - i dont see the point in arguing about which is "worse" - just playing devils advocate.
but if you're willing to write someone off for rape, you should be willing to do the same for attempted murder IMO

>Plus, it was actually understandable why Slick would be driven to that.
so heinous crimes are cool as long as you understand their motivation?

>Michael Jackson never....molested anyone
debatable

>If you've seen me bashing Maxxx over the years, you'd know i HATE Rapist Kelly.
fair enough

my point is just that its a slippery slope. if you want to disavow an artist for their actions, cool. if you don't want to support them in the future, i get it. But for me, even if Gibbs is convicted of rape, sure, that would make him a piece of shit. But its not gonna stop me from bobbing my head to his tracks when they come up on shuffle.

In some cases I can see why a person could be driven to murder another person. I've never been able to say "oh I can see why he raped her". Not once.

>>Michael Jackson never....molested anyone
>debatable


no, it's not debatable. he never molested anyone. do your research.

I knew about the incident with his cousin. Thought dude was saying Rick raped somebody.

Slick Rick? Huh

>How about Michael Jackson?
uhh yeah, forever and I'm on the didn't do a damn thing to them kids side of the isle

>R. Kelly?
fuck no. lol. never a fan. fuck that dude

>CeeLo?
after the accusation and tweet, nah, also his music been trash

>How about Chuck Berry?
nah

>Tupac?
lol, again, no.

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>The list goes on...

gets a slightly too generous pass just for sounding 'real'

I mean I like pinanta and all..... But big thanks to Madlib for making duke listenable for a whole album


werd.

a bit of freddie foxx

i cant think who just now, but if he was out in the 90s, or early 00s even, he would be a c-lister

now, cos he just evokes that era, he gets elevated higher

which isnt to say that his style is THAT original either, but those arent the guys i would point to if you're trying to pinpoint his lineage

>but if he was out in the 90s, or early 00s even, he would be a c-lister

i mean, thats a lot of dudes these days, but ya, i dont nec. disagree with that assessment

I fux with summa his stuff, but you talkin
like he out here competing with Kendrick
on the charts, gettin grammys.

and I can understand why the material itself could bother some folks, much less that he doesn't deviate too much from it, but dude's flow is undeniable to me. Pretty masterful to me how he bounces between his chosen syllables when he's on point.

Just to be clear so I can avoid some of the mess in other replies in this thread, I'm not making light of his accused crimes in any shape, form, or fashion; just looking to add to the discussion of him as a rhymer.

>gets a slightly too generous pass just for sounding 'real'

He snitched on the customs employee who let him slide with the weed I've known that dudes a lame at heart..

but i seem to remember he was due back in austria soon.

He's been on blackout on his social media accounts from what I can tell, so I just assumed the worst.

Would be so wild if the accusations are in fact true, especially since he has a newborn girl to fend for.

You clowns championed this guy. I always felt Gibbs was a lame just by what he spoke about. Art reflects life not that surprised dude got hit with a rape charge.

>You clowns championed this guy. I always felt Gibbs was a
>lame just by what he spoke about. Art reflects life not that
>surprised dude got hit with a rape charge.

it's all about his many bad decisions in real life.

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I'll provide the link in a bit.

"After a short trial, the Vienna regional court ultimately sided with the rapper in the case, determining that there was not enough evidence to prove that Gibbs had sex with the alleged victim, AFP reports. The woman claimed Gibbs spiked her and a friend's drink at his Vienna hotel."

Rape is insanely difficult to prove. Which only adds more layers to the struggles of the victims. Really kinda sucks.

Quick to bury a nigga, hope we see that same intensity now that he was acquitted

congrats to him. i would have hated if my favorite rapper of the last 5-7 years was a date rapist

but anyway dude was accused of pulling a cosby, lol..you expected ppl to still scream FREE GIBBS? its not like he punched a cop or anything. i think most ppl in here were waiting to hear of the verdict before writing him off.

(edit, i hope he doesnt try to brag about being locked up for rape though)


>Quick to bury a nigga, hope we see that same intensity now
>that he was acquitted

You mean like how people are now disinclined to let rape slide?

I never knew many details about this case but after a few days I got the feeling he was getting Oberst'd.


As important as it is that society takes sexual assault allegations seriously these days, it's equally important that we don't immediately assume the accused are guilty. As someone who's worked and hung out with a celebrity accused of a sexual crime they did not commit while in a committed relationship, I've seen the harm that can bring on a person socially and mentally.


I'd like to see the evidence that was put forth in this case but I haven't sought it out thoroughly.


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"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz

I saw he deleted his old twitter posts and isn't active at all anymore; has Gibbs turned into a Shaolin Monk? Is he in Trump's cabinet? In all seriousness, anyone here have a clue what dude has been doing since the charges were cleared?

https://soundcloud.com/harryfraud/freddie-gibbs-all-day-prod-by-harry-fraud


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"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz

Gangsta Gibbs tells his story:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm2IY_zspak

I'm interested if this experience makes him broaden his message...

Gotta watch more of the Therapist shows.

Dude drop them jewels.

This clown y'all love hahaha. I don't know if he did it or not but, who would feel sorry for a lame that glamorizes and symbolizes what dude talks about when he gets thrown in jail? Play with matches you get burned thugin

you deserve to get imprisoned and falsely accused of rape?

sound logic.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

Before I clicked, I subconsciously added a space into the title, thinking this was an expose of some sort..

respect,
bc

"my old boy from the Point but I'm from Southwest..."

"Are you really ready to carry some weight?,
Are you ready to design your fate?" -Kelvin Mercer

>Before I clicked, I subconsciously added a space into the
>title, thinking this was an expose of some sort..


LOL

You wouldn't be the only one who read it as THE RAPIST as witnessed in the YT comments.

perfect length to go through in my drive home from work.

Costa Rica over the past 2 weeks

Yes, it's very good.

Not sure exactly when these songs were written and recorded.. before or after his time in jail, but his voice definitely has more of a pained/strained sound to it.. It sounds more weathered and cracked, but it definitely gives his music warmth whereas before he often sounded very cold.