you've already begun. 'oh i'm just trying to have good music discussion'

no you're not, you're trying to validate a bullshit opinion you haven't thought out very well, can't explain further, and when criticized fall back to mystical shit like:

>The type of improvisation that I am speaking of is not
>intellectual. It can't be defined as you have.

yet offer no definitions. then you go on these metaphysical rants which you don't even realize are offensive to generations of players before you:

>It is the point
>where you no longer see or hear the instrument itself, but
>feel what it is expressing. You hear what it is conveying as
>opposed to how it sounds.

To the point where your whole argument becomes non-sensical making debating it pointless:

>The player and the instrument take a
>back seat to the music. It is done within the "boundaries" of
>the song but played in such a way where it is not bound to
>anything that can be put down on paper.

Then why bother posting about it. Pick up your guitar and go to nirvana.

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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."