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2919733, no snark, do you play any instruments?
Posted by Joe Corn Mo, Fri Feb-06-15 03:08 PM
at the risk of sounding elistist,
there are ways to describe what jazz musicans do
without sayinh vauge stuff like "waves crashing on the ocean."

improvisation is about taking a musical idea (a snatch of melody,
a series of chord progressions, a rhythmic idea) and playing it
it back in a different way... building on it until it
becomes something new.

much like a rapper free styling a rhyme.


It's not easy to improvise well,
but you make it sound like magic, which is irritating.
especially when you say blues is the only other genre that has it.

Because other genres of music improvise too.
Just as much, actually.
But like jake said, it's on the micro level.
Not the macro level, like jazz.



I won't say I know more about jazz than you,
but I suspect I know more about music.

You might wanna just say that you like jazz and leave it at that.
The jazz is magic line can get.... irritating? Cloying?

Something that probably rubs (black) jazz heads the wrong way.







>Where is this hostility coming from? There is really no need
>to get angry. We are just sharing our thoughts about music, I
>apologize if it came across as possessive.
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>>>A crashing wave is truly the best analogy I can come up
>>with
>>>for how I hear it.
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>>Cause this is meaningless.
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>Sometimes it's difficult to put artistic expression into
>words. That's why there's music, to say the things we feel
>with an instrument that there are no words for. An ocean wave
>is built on a multitude of unfolding patterns/layers, which
>hold the wave in the very shape it's in before ultimately
>crashing on the shore. It looks and feels chaotic, but
>underneath the illusion of chaos there is perfect order and
>physical forces affecting it.
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>I think Jazz exhibits a highly technical form of song writing.
>Not anyone can pick up a horn and start blaring, in time, on
>key, and with emotion. This extends to all the instruments.
>Playing in time is one thing, playing with swing, expressing
>one self, adding personal and social layers, conveying a
>deeper message with the human heart/soul, doing it with a
>technical flare which requires a great deal of skill and
>musical sense, are some of the examples of the layers that
>Jazz demonstrates. The final crash and culmination of all
>these elements, by an orchestra, with a player that ties it
>all together is like the final crash of that wave.
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